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… and 3 days and 2 pages later on this thread proves to me how boring and useless the debate over funding public transit has become. Rus and jbcmh81 you both strike me as smart, and clearly your both impassioned on this topic but you talk past each other, both in an attempt to prove who’s right and who’s wrong. Taking a step back you should both realize it’s an argument neither of you will win.
jbcmh81: The argument is currently won buy the “car-centrics” because the priorities haven’t changed. (Personally I think the “Gemini” exit at Polaris is a fucking laughable waste of money to build not one but two interchanges to attract such admirable companies as Wal-Mart and Cabela’s. And another $11MM in road improvements is “necessary” to Polaris Parkway to accommodate Ikea.) I think you advance the conversation by convincing anyone with a wallet that driving thru Krispy Kreme on your way to work/spend money at Home Depot is undesirable. And good luck with that.
Rus: God your argument is so easy because in ‘Merica we’re taught we have inalienable, non-negotiable rights to freedom of thought and movement, and don’t you forget it. Any argument made that threatens these core values is dismissed easily as a violation of the constitution or some amendment. (Please don’t bother attacking my liberal-leaning bias as elitist until after you take the American flag off my front porch.) No need to change the argument unless you become troubled by the thought that, while the freedom of owning a car is a personal freedom, Starbucks is acutely pleased that you have a car.
Back on topic – Summit is down to 1 lane this morning because of construction in front of my house. I haven’t witnessed any civil unrest yet. Praise Jesus.
Rus thanks for the clarification on your comment, much appreciated. I can’t really say whether your opinion of jbcmh81’s wants are accurate, although from jbcmh81’s reply it seems you two aren’t in agreement anyhow. Which is fine. I have heard both sides of the “alternative” transportation argument (which is really a fiscal argument at the end of the day) and frankly I’m bored with it.
That being said, as I head north on 4th Street from downtown and see the absolute explosion of development by Wagenbrenner at Jeffrey Park, not to mention the apartments behind Little Rock, the new development on Detroit, the new development at 1st and Summit etc etc etc. I can’t help but ask myself “what is this neighborhood going to look like in 24 months?” Someone can probably give better statistics than me but are we maybe adding 1,000 new residents to Italian Village? 1,500? 2,000? And I’m not including the developments in Weinland Park.
So bravo to the city for recognizing this significant growth spurt (40% increase in density?) and doing something to accommodate a population with a divergent set of “wants” and lifestyle decisions.
Right now my wife and I are headed out to see a movie at the Gateway. It’s about 3/4’s of a mile – we could take our bikes, or drive, or the #2, or COGO, or our car. But because it’s a nice sunny day I think we’re going to walk, but walk up High and not Summit because the wider sidewalks and painted cross walks feel safer to me.
I don’t lurk on these pages as much as I used to, but I’ve been keeping an eye on this particular with some interest since I live in the area under discussion. From my desk I can see Summit quite easily with the typical sights: cars headed south a bit quick for my tastes, a few neighbors walking their dogs to the school lot on 3rd, a few joggers, some bikes, and a mix of drivers (parking near my place) and walkers headed presumably to the Market or Fox in the Snow.
FWIW I think it would be awesome to make Summit and 4th two way streets again but I don’t think it will happen because of the way the ramps are configured at 670, so this conversation is in my opinion more trivia than anything.
Regarding the calming measures discussed above: I think the construction of the house at corner of 2nd and Summit (adjacent to my own home) has already had the effect of calming the intersection. I don’t hear as many car horns and skidding tires as I used to. I think this is the case because drivers headed south can’t see cars headed west on 2nd so they are slowing down/not running the light as much. But I have absolutely no data to support this.
Figure you want what you want so you have the ethics of a crackhead. So long as you get your fix you don’t care what it does to other people.
Rus, we’ve never met but I feel like I kinda know you, and as much as you get under the skin of the core posters on this site I appreciate your comments and perspective. Sometimes I’m even troubled at how often I agree with you. But I have read this comment no less than 6 times and it doesn’t make sense to me. So rather than trying to guess I’m asking: can you please explain your comment so I can better understand it? Thanks in advance.
Thanks for the link. I first saw this on the Italian Village FB page and the accompanying comments are so funny. They don’t look “Italian” enough. One car garages means not enough parking. Italian Village is losing its integrity. Seriously?
I live next door to the development and have nothing but praise for them.
I had an exciting (and sad) conversation with Connie this morning – she asked that we clear the gardens by the end of the month as they are hoping to start construction on the 6 houses in early October. This is in addition to the house on the lot that sits behind Connie’s (fronting Punta) that Urban Restorations is starting any day now. Finally that corner will be filled completely. Hooray!
Yep no problem. I send Connie an email asking what details she could share about the lot (when? how much?) but haven’t heard anything. My sense is they will go pretty quickly since I think both of Joe’s new builds on Punta have sold.
Unfortunately I don’t think the garden will be relocated. Seems all the empty lots in the block are tied up now.
A new sign was installed on the corner of 2nd and Summit where the 6 condos by Connie Klema are being built. We’re losing our garden we know, but anxious to see these become a reality.
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I just heard a news story on channel 10 this morning that Car2Go officially announced expansion to Grandview and Marble Cliff. I think it said adding 50 cars, and there was a map of included space. It was before coffee so I’m a bit unclear. Does anyone have more details?
First review and impressions this morning. From my vantage point at 2nd and Summit I saw the first 5 busses roll by at predicable intervals: 7:24, 7:31, 7:42, 7:50, and 8:00. I then walked to the stop on 3rd in IV and took the next bus. It was sitting at that stop when I arrived at 8:06 and we left the stop at 8:09, presumably to calibrate the 10 minute spacing. There was one other rider on the bus when I arrived, and we picked up two more before I got off at Nationwide Blvd. Very cool.
I can’t find the older IV Commission minutes on the new Columbus.gov website, but added to the list should be the 6 single family homes designed for the NE corner of 2nd and Summit. I talked to the developer and she is hoping to start construction this summer.
And so I’m clear, I think Columbus is a unique “major league” city precisely because we’ve repeatedly resisted the trend to publicly fund an arena for a professional team. 100+ new sports arenas/stadiums built in the US in the past 20 years, and the vast majority were publicly funded in some way. So far we are one of a few exceptions.
The NHL stated they wanted to be here because we were a huge untapped market with little competition. Awesome. When asked if we’d build them a new house in this city we said no – essentially saying if Columbus is such a great untapped market then build the house yourself. So Nationwide did. 10 years later, if it turns out our market isn’t as great as they (NHL, Nationwide) thought it was going to be, whose fault is that? NHL and Nationwide if you made a bad decision, don’t ask the city or county to pay for your mistake.
I was being sarcastic. I believe the BJ’s are a net asset for the city, and whether or not some are willing to admit as much, it’s a referendum on keeping them here or not. I brought up Cincinnati in regards to voting against the streetcar, which also would’ve been a net asset. I do NOT want Columbus to follow the same path and believe the single-minded focus on taxes is a terrible way to view city assets and development.
By what measure are the BJs an asset to Columbus? Does having the team mean we have more direct revenue? Are more people moving to Columbus because we have a team here? Do we have more civic pride because we are a “major league” city? I’m not arguing the validity of any of these reasons, but the conversation of whether or not the city invests in this asset needs to be discussed, and weighed against other asset investment options.
Who knows, maybe Columbus residents can be as stupid as Cincinnati in voting against its own interests. One can hope!
^ You beat me to the comparison in Cinci, and couldn’t agree more. They are handcuffed by the Reds and Bengals: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052748704461304576216330349497852
I dig having the arena and a hockey team in town, but I’m totally cool if they left for greener pastures because the tax payers in Franklin County said no to owning the arena.
Sounds for sure like a bad power supply – the most common ailment of TVs and one of the few that can actually be economically fixed. I refer a lot of my clients to ThompsonTV – good people with fair pricing.
Damn wish I hadn’t run home to grab leftovers for lunch. While yummy, it wasn’t as good as a reuben. I’ve never been to the Easy Living Deli in UA but a friend told me he had a reuben there and it was awesome. Does anyone know if I should believe him?
And FWIW I always try to stop by an Izzy’s when passing thru Cinci. I’ve not been to Zingerman’s so can’t speak to the comparison, but my belly is always happy when I leave Izzy’s.