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  • in reply to: 2016 Presidential Race #1127525
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    I’m sure some people can hit the trifecta.

    Like this guy?

    Identity politics are fun to watch, aren’t they?

    in reply to: 2016 Presidential Race #1127435
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    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>rus wrote:</div>
    All the more reason to vote Trump. If you are scared of him he must be good, since I’ve yet to see you and I agree on much of anything.

    True, at most one of us is right on any given issue.

    I’m surprised you’re not willing to listen to Plato, however. You know he was both white and male, right?

    He can’t be. You quoted him. Greek must not count as white for you. ;-)

    Also, inferences of racism are out of fashion now. Since the Democrats put up an old white woman and an old white man, now anyone who disagrees with them isn’t racist but misogynist or ageist.

    in reply to: 2016 Presidential Race #1127396
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    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>rus wrote:</div>
    As to inane rambling on a blog…

    It’s actually Plato, Book 9 of The Republic. You know, one of the “great works of Western Civilization.”

    The ancient Romans didn’t pay attention to it either.

    All the more reason to vote Trump. If you are scared of him he must be good, since I’ve yet to see you and I agree on much of anything.

    in reply to: 2016 Presidential Race #1127392
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    There have been numerous election anomalies in this primary election process in a few states. Then again straightening out our elections process has never been a priority when we have willingly and with premeditation made that situation worse.

    what improvement? economically there has been very little positive change

    wars are continuing and we have even more now under Obama

    and I can keep going on and on with that list

    this still doesn’t change the fact that our govt has numerous broken and dysfunctional agencies and isn’t working as intended or designed

    Well said.

    Speaking of dysfunctional agencies, the reforms at the VA are worth noting. Looks like they’ve only made things worse.

    in reply to: 2016 Presidential Race #1127313
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    It’s because they pandered that they ended up with Trump.

    We disagree, then. No surprise.

    As to inane rambling on a blog, that sounds just like what people said about Obama.

    in reply to: 2016 Presidential Race #1127309
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    The DNC super delegates get to pick the winner of the general presidential election this year. They can pick Sanders or Trump. Either way, it’s really their choice, not ours.

    True enough. The process they use has done well to alienate their populist surge.

    in reply to: 2016 Presidential Race #1127278
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    A large portion of the traditional liberal agenda leaves me cold, but until the GOP stops pandering to the lowest common denominator, count me out.

    In case you hadn’t noticed, that wasn’t “pandering to the lowest common denominator”. That’s a populist surge. Same thing the democrats are going through with Sanders.

    To the extent that Trump panders to the lowest common denominator, you can’t have missed the turmoil his political success has wrought inside the GOP. If the GOP was pandering with Trump, there wouldn’t have been such turmoil.

    Trump and Sanders both represent a rejection of the current system. They have some surprising policy similarities as well.

    http://reason.com/archives/2015/08/10/bernie-sanders-and-donald-trump-ties

    Sanders just got eaten up by the democrat machine. GOP tried that with Trump, but he got the better of them.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/05/18/msnbcs_mika_brzezinski_calls_for_dnc_chair_to_step_down_for_bias_against_sanders.html

    I don’t believe Trump, if elected, would wreck the country any more than Sanders would. We elect a president, not a king.

    Regardless of who wins, the populist surge isn’t going away.

    in reply to: 2016 Presidential Race #1127154
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    Obviously the solution is a Clinton-Trump dream ticket.

    Why piss off half the country when you can get everyone with one shot?

    in reply to: 2016 Presidential Race #1127131
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    but I have every expectation she would do a good job as president

    Why’s that? Take free trade. Which if these is a “good job”?

    Clinton reiterates opposition to Colombia trade

    http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr/09/nation/na-penn9

    as secretary of state, Clinton was personally lobbying Democratic members of Congress to support the deal

    http://www.ibtimes.com/hillary-clinton-pushes-colombia-free-trade-agreement-latest-email-dump-2326068

    How about environmental issues?

    Clinton was seen as initially favoring construction of the keystone pipeline

    http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hillary-clinton-finally-comes-out-against-keystone-pipeline

    but then:

    “I oppose [the pipeline] because I don’t think, I don’t think it’s in the best interest of what we need to do to combat climate change.”

    http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hillary-clinton-finally-comes-out-against-keystone-pipeline

    Coal also:

    “…we’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business”

    http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2016/03/13/full-rush-transcript-hillary-clinton-partcnn-tv-one-democratic-presidential-town-hall/

    or does she mean:

    “I’ve been talking about helping coal country for a very long time”

    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/05/03/no-hillary-did-not-apologize-for-bragging-about-putting-coal-miners-out-of-business/

    she says she wants to see coal “continued to be sold and continued to be mined.”

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/clinton-flip-flops-on-coal-now-wants-coal-to-prosper/article/2002208

    Which of those is a “good job”? If all you’re looking for is management experience, Jeb Bush or Kaisich would fit that bill without the classified email scandal, Benghazi and all the rest. I don’t think you’d ever vote for either of them, though.

    I don’t see her as representing your views, as you’ve written about them here.

    in reply to: 2016 Presidential Race #1127076
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    Right. Most of what I hear about Hillary is who she isn’t, as if that’s any kind of qualification.

    I’m not Donald Trump, vote for me! Ps it’s my turn and I’ve already paid for the presidency!

    Exactly. Trump is unelectable because he holds $100,000 per plate fundraising dinners.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/05/13/hillary-clinton-hosts-100000-a-head-fundraisers/

    Wait. No, that was Hillary.

    Then Trump supports rapists.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/20/exclusive-hillary-clinton-took-me-through-hell-rape-victim-says.html

    Oh, sorry. Hillary again.

    Trump fights against the common man! You can’t like him he’s for the richies!

    … right.

    in reply to: 2016 Presidential Race #1126913
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    @rus

    I have to admit, I’m curious what the conservatives on the board think of Trump sealing up the nomination.

    I’m not sure “conservative” is the right way to describe you, rus, but I am curious about your thoughts on Trump (independent of whomever he might face in the general).

    @rus

    I have to admit, I’m curious what the conservatives on the board think of Trump sealing up the nomination.

    I’m not sure “conservative” is the right way to describe you, rus, but I am curious about your thoughts on Trump (independent of whomever he might face in the general).

    In the spirit of your question, what do you think of Hilary independent of what you might think about Trump?

    in reply to: 2016 Presidential Race #1126856
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    the likely 2-6% margin of victory in the popular vote will devolve into reasoned self interest as 5-15% of establishment/conservatives R’s defects, and any gains in first time voters by Trump will be off set by higher non-white participation for HRC. I believe that will be the end of Trump.

    As to “reasoned self interest”, between him and Hillary I’ll go with Trump. Trump may screw over people like me. Hillary and her lot definitely will.

    I do think Trump can win, given Hilary as a candidate. He’d have lost to Sanders, I think, but that match up is off the table.

    in reply to: 2016 Presidential Race #1126844
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    @rus

    I have to admit, I’m curious what the conservatives on the board think of Trump sealing up the nomination.

    I’m not sure “conservative” is the right way to describe you, rus, but I am curious about your thoughts on Trump (independent of whomever he might face in the general).

    Say what you will about him, but he’s certainly defied conventional expectations. He seems like a populist, nationalist candidate. Lot more first time voters came out to vote for him than I expected.

    On economic issues, Hilary would be the more conservative candidate. If you can believe her as far as what opinions she expresses, that is. Some of Trump’s positions are closer to Sanders’s than you’d think at first glance.

    This election seems to be coming down to whom you dislike more and whom you perceive to dislike you, personally, more. In that context it’s difficult to separate Trump from whom he’ll face in the general.

    Barring some massive surprise, that will be Hilary.

    in reply to: 2016 Presidential Race #1126717
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    I can’t wait to see how nasty Clinton supporters get when she loses to Trump.

    Will they have the self respect to blame Trump voters or the gull to blame independents who were trying to push a candidate who in polling would actually beat Trump.

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/13/donald-trump-supporters-bigots-left-demonise

    In the midst of all this, one character sits in a very uneasy position. Unsettled by their popularity, Hillary Clinton has been trying to echo some of Trump’s and Sanders’ pronouncements on trade and jobs. “I won’t support any agreement unless it helps create good jobs and higher wages for American workers,” she says, offering to be the president for “the struggling, the striving and the successful”. Her enemies, by contrast, malign her as someone who enthusiastically supported the trade deal to end all trade deals: the North American Free Trade Agreement of 1994, which the Carrier workers put at the centre of their predicament. In fact, politics being politics, the details of her record matter less than broad-brush appearances. And here, the story for her adversaries is a cinch. The establishment has failed; she is a card-carrying member of that establishment; ergo, she has failed too.

    The whole thing is worth a read, but that stands out.

    in reply to: 2016 Presidential Race #1126604
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    To be willfully ignorant is to support Hillary.

    Truth.

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