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  • in reply to: Columbus Commons – News & Updates #262995

    Paging Aminah Robinson…

    in reply to: Barry’s ordered out of North Market #377164

    I hope Barry’s is replaced with Katzinger’s. I will miss having easy access to good reubens.

    in reply to: Contemplating a breast reduction #377047

    If you can afford it, and you want it done, do it.

    in reply to: Drudge Report Sets Targets on Mayor Coleman #372504

    Germinus, sure, but other cases have tweaked its application.

    I could care less who started the law. I don’t have a bias against conservatives. But this is the “get real” argument–this law was made to target Mexicans, as every defense of this law out of Arizona has intimated or stated expressly.

    But you’ve been very civil with me, and I’m more than willing to agree to disagree here until the courts take it up.

    in reply to: Drudge Report Sets Targets on Mayor Coleman #372502

    I apologize for losing my temper with you.

    But words and notions such as yours cannot be allowed to stand without being rebutted.

    I hope that as your lips shut for the night, your mind does not. Your apparent notions of inferiority reserved for a people you have little to no understanding of are troubling, and I sincerely hope that things change for you in your world.

    in reply to: Drudge Report Sets Targets on Mayor Coleman #372499

    Our public assistance programs are feeling the impact from all sorts of people: white, black, Somalian. Do you have any indication that the strain caused by the Somali population is disproportionate?

    I know you never said they were here illegally; I said you hadn’t made that argument.

    Your suggestion seems to be that Somalians are not self-supporting, in general. Do you want to stand by that statement?

    Your opinion is a problem. You seem not to welcome those not native to this continent. Is that, again, what you seem to not-so-subtly be implying?

    in reply to: Drudge Report Sets Targets on Mayor Coleman #372497

    How is Somali immigration a problem? You’re not contending that our schools or community resources are incapable of supporting the influx of an immigrant group; you’re not contending that the Somali immigrants are here illegally; you’re contending that they are, through your experience, of ill-behavior in our schools and community.

    That’s not their problem. That’s your problem.

    in reply to: Drudge Report Sets Targets on Mayor Coleman #372490

    kcrissinger wrote >>

    Rick Carraway wrote >>

    I do not consider my daughter telling me about her school day “gossiping.” She was telling me about how the Somalis push people and won’t move in the halls at school. The same things I have witnessed in the area. Being rude isn’t cool. When I pick her up from school, they walk in the street and refuse to move out of the way. I don’t witness any other students doing this. Don’t try to label me a racist because I brought up the point that we have more immigration problems than Mexicans.

    Your daughter hasn’t seen non-Somali kids push people or not move in the halls at school, which mirrors what your eyes have seen in the neighborhood, and therefore Somalis in your eyes are defined by this type of behavior? Is that what you’re saying?

    On the rudeness scale, I would rate Somalis at the top based on what I’ve experienced. My original point is that we have legal immigrants that seem to be more of a burden or threat that our illegal neighbors to the south. That is my perception, be it right or wrong. It is not about race in any way. I’m calling it like I see it.

    You’re right, it’s not about race, it’s about ethnicity. You’ve extrapolated from minimal exposure and anecdotal evidence that Somalis–generally–are ruder than everyone else. What an unfortunate conclusion to reach and what an unfortunate way to reach it.

    You do realize that what you’ve experienced is rather limited, and stained by your own biases, right?

    in reply to: Drudge Report Sets Targets on Mayor Coleman #372486

    I do not consider my daughter telling me about her school day “gossiping.” She was telling me about how the Somalis push people and won’t move in the halls at school. The same things I have witnessed in the area. Being rude isn’t cool. When I pick her up from school, they walk in the street and refuse to move out of the way. I don’t witness any other students doing this. Don’t try to label me a racist because I brought up the point that we have more immigration problems than Mexicans.

    Your daughter hasn’t seen non-Somali kids push people or not move in the halls at school, which mirrors what your eyes have seen in the neighborhood, and therefore Somalis in your eyes are defined by this type of behavior? Is that what you’re saying?

    in reply to: Drudge Report Sets Targets on Mayor Coleman #372485

    Core_Models wrote >>

    Rick Carraway wrote >>
    The intent of the law is to target Mexicans…
    Yick Wo isn’t the most recent case on the issue, either.

    I don’t know that this is the case. The intent of the law is to target illegal aliens, however the majority of illegal aliens happen to be Mexicans. Kind of like claiming the intent of making homicide illegal is targeting blacks, when the reality is its targeting murderers and the majority of them just happen to be black. (at least as of 2005).

    No, those are two very, very different claims.

    in reply to: Drudge Report Sets Targets on Mayor Coleman #372482

    The intent of the law is to target Mexicans…

    Yick Wo isn’t the most recent case on the issue, either.

    in reply to: Drudge Report Sets Targets on Mayor Coleman #372480

    The anecdotal, “Do you really think there are non-brown illegals in Arizona” is irrelevant.

    When the government targets a class of people based on ethnicity or skin color, strict scrutiny must be overcome with a compelling government interest that is narrowly tailored to achieving whatever that interest is. Targeting ALL people that only appear to be of an ethnic group would have to be deemed a narrow tailoring for this law to stand.

    in reply to: Drudge Report Sets Targets on Mayor Coleman #372476

    Think about it this way, Pro-Arizonans: When the police–a representative of the state–pulls you over, they’re curtailing your liberty right to go about your business as you deem fit.

    When the police see you drive through a red light, or catch you speeding on their radar gun, or see you weaving in and out of lanes, they have a justification for pulling you over.

    Seeing a person of a certain color behind the wheel is not a valid justification. And yet this law in practice will encourage that kind of “justification.”

    in reply to: Drudge Report Sets Targets on Mayor Coleman #372474

    kcrissinger wrote >>

    joev wrote >>

    kcrissinger wrote >>
    Why is everyone so up in arms about illegal immigration when “legal” immigration is truly problematic. We have huge numbers of “war refugees” that are here living in public housing. They’re living off of a tax system into which they have never paid. People from their homeland come here to recruit terrorists to kill Americans.
    Most “illegals” I’ve seen around Columbus come here to work and do not live in public housing. I’ve not heard of Mexican terrorist groups blowing up American ships.
    So, what’s the problem with native Americans moving north of the border?

    Of all the poorly informed, bigoted people on this board, you are currently taking the cake!

    I beg to differ. I am simply stating what I see around me. I live in close proximity to very large immigrant groups; both Somali and Mexican. My daughter attends school with many of the children too. She has told me many things from school regarding the different groups. I have also witnessed their actions in the neighborhood and local stores. I am just asking why everyone is so up in arms about Mexican immigrants when we have larger problems.

    I am not one to advocate censorship, so I won’t here. But I will advise you to think.

    Your characterizations of an entire group of people based on your anecdotal observations–which, undoubtedly, are skewed to support that which you’ve long-ago concluded about the people in question–are revolting.

    You’re one of the people that follows their gut. This isn’t a bad thing when picking your favorite ice cream from Jeni’s, or in selecting an outfit for your daughter to wear to school. But in dehumanizing a group of people you’ve had superficial and minimal interaction with is, I’d venture to say, unwise.

    That said, I am hopeful that your daughter will do better than her mother has in learning how to interact with and respect those different from her. The fact that she is in a diverse school is a wonderful, wonderful start; I hope your daughter may learn as much from her Somali peers as they might learn from her. And I hope your daughter may teach you in time.

    in reply to: Drudge Report Sets Targets on Mayor Coleman #372473

    Snarf wrote >>

    can something be true and racist? if so, which trumps? truth i would hope.

    No, something cannot be both racist and true.

    Racism relies on absolutes: “Asians like karate;” “Whites like mayonnaise;” “Blacks like watermelon”; “Fruit flies like bananas.”

    Just become some Asians like karate, or some whites like mayonnaise, or some blacks like watermelon, does not make the racist claim true–indeed, it disproves it, since the racist claim was making an absolute and unequivocating assertion.

    This Arizona law targets an absolute class of people that, in practice, will target a certain class of people based on their physical appearance. That isn’t racism, per se; it’s just likely to be found unconstitutional.

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