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Real question for the folks who don’t mind the design …. Do you visit Grandview often? If so, where do you go? Finally, what do you like/dislike about Grandview?
Work everyday and play quite often in Grandview. Eat breakfast at Marshalls nearly every Saturday morning. At this very moment I’m less than 1000ft from the GE location.
Who said its a tiny minority? Judging just from this site, most people here would prefer a better situated grocery store layout, with a minority of vocal others that want the store as planned.
Most likely the folks at GE corporate don’t rely on a few forum followers when they complete their market studies for developments. But if it works to make you feel better have at it.
Maybe for a different perspective head on over to Columbusracing.com and see what the folks on that forum would have to say about tootling to the store on a bicycle.
There are any number of European cities that have done precisely that, and it has been remarkably effective.
Is this Europe or Columbus?
Most developers would never be expected to look beyond that (which is sort of ironic because NRI seems to be one instance where the rare long-term planning approach is in play). But cities and municipalities should always be looking at the long-term self-sustaining point of view. They should be asking what this site will look like in 5 years, 20 years, 50 years and 100 years. Not that a grocery store should be expected to have a lifespan that long, but if not that business, what other business could take its place in a 90,000 square foot building given that specific type of configuration. The examples given earlier with City Center, Westland, Northland, etc are great examples. Mall buildings are for malls. Once the mall closes, a retrofit is near impossible without demolition. And demolition is not an inexpensive venture, especially when the municipality (and taxpayers) have to foot that bill because the original developer already checked out.
Ask me again in another 39 years and I’ll have your answer. ;)
So the expectation is that city demand a devloper to design buildings that will span the next 5 generations, even though they have no accurate idea what would be current 100 years from now.
No, each is an example of a retail developer cashing in on shorter-term trends. No mall developer is concerned with what future trends lie beyond the 15-25 year lifespan of their development.
And a developer is supposed to look past a 15-25yr projection from current and hope that they make a return then? How far out in the future wouyld be acceptable?
Would you commit a substantial portion of your income to develop a web site that might be successful in 50 years? Based on current projections of course.
@MRipley: a grocer set back (way back) from the street with surface parking in front and four outlots for individual retail establishments = Sawmill Road, Morse Road, Hilliard Rome Road = NOT pedestrian friendly = not fit for the neighborhood = VERY disappointing.
Wouldn’t it depend on where you were walking from? In the image someone posted it looks like the folks in the nearby residential homes/condos could easily walk to any of the stores if they desired.
Just curious, why would it not be pedestrian friendly?
I love these folks that are posting that have likely never been to CU before and try to make a case like they have any idea who we are – this ain’t the Dispatch comments or your wack faceyplace page.
They are entertaining tho, in that was email forwards from your aunt are.
Also – wear your helmet. Watch out for people on bikes, both kinds. Use your blinkers.
Columbus Underground is a “we” forum now? I thought it was an open board for puplic discussion. Are there qualifications to become part of the “we” CU? Just curious.
Waiting for someone to blame fracking in Eastern Ohio….
Help!! I’m considering this welding class and have been trying to find out the timeframe. (It will make a difference for me). So far I’ve emailed a message from the registration page and tried calling the Foundry phone number. I have yet to get an email responce, and the calling just produces a voice message saying to email any questions.
Would anyone on here happen to know the time for the class, or have a direct contact at the foundry?
Thanks for any help.
Yeah, even $2.1 million is pretty reasonable considering the engineering/construction effort.
Considerable engineering/construction effort?
Is that vs similar bridges that don’t require considerable engineering/construction effort? Maybe a rope footbridge?
Hrm. I thought that sounded low, but wasn’t able to dig up other numbers on a quick search. Thanks for the correction. I wonder if that original dollar amount mentioned in the bikeways plans was only a certain portion of the project?
Still, $2.1 million doesn’t sound like a huge pricetag for a bridge of that size.
From your link:
1. Hilltop Connector – On-street route to new Scioto River Bridge – $81,100
Based on the little picture below that portion of the project it seems that the $81,000 expence was for an “On-street route” – otherwise known as a painted crosswalk.
morpc description of the overall project:
Draft Bicycle and Pedestrian Projects
Scioto Trail-Hilltop Connector Bridge
Sponsoring Agency: Columbus Recreation and Parks Department
Stimulus Amount: $420,000
Total Cost: $2,100,000
Description: This 0.35-mile project builds a bicycle/pedestrian bridge and bikeway connectivity to the Hilltop community of Columbus’ west side. The project starts at McKinley Avenue near the intersection with Harper Road, crosses the Scioto River and a railroad, and connects to the existing Scioto Trail. The project opens access to thousands of west side residents to the regional trail and bikeway network.
Though it is a much less complex bridge design-wise than what those proposal renderings show for the Downtown bridge.
Multiply that crazy inexpensive bridge cost by 26 and you’ll be a little closer to the actual $2.1 million cost to construct it.
Here are a couple Dispatch articles that mention the cost: