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Walker Evans wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Chris Sunami wrote:</div>

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>lattethunder wrote:</div>
I think all of Homeport’s KLD homes are already sold, but I’d love to hear more about your neighbor!

There’s an RZ Realty sign in the window: http://www.rzrealty.com/

It doesn’t seem to be listed on their site yet, but you could probably get info about it by calling them.

Those will be on the Urban Living Tour this year on May 15th. Great time to check them out. ;)

Some extra info, here: https://www.columbusunderground.com/urbanliving/urban-living-tour-2016/

Looks like they will be rentals before they’re listed for sale. =(

This market still hasn’t gotten any easier for buyers over the last month!

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I think all of Homeport’s KLD homes are already sold, but I’d love to hear more about your neighbor!

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There’s actually quite a bit of undeveloped land within 270! Most of it isn’t in the central core though. I know Maronda Homes has one community but it’s not in an area I would prefer, so I was hoping someone knew more than I did.

And you’re right about Italian Village not being geared towards a first time buyer – those town-homes are FAR out of my price range. As far as infill, is there anything affordable and at least semi successful outside of HNHF?

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The lack of listings is really tough right now. I’m considering something I never thought I’d do: a new build. Does anyone know of builders with communities within 270?

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Eh… I don’t really see this as being reductive. It’s not like deep fried spicy foods are a new concept. I’m just happy to see more employment opportunities for ex offenders. They have it rough out there.

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Man, I wish this buyers market would return! It’s hard to find anything affordable, decently maintained, and central these days!

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Is there an active Eastmoor neighborhood group? Also, does anyone know what Area Commission Eastmoor falls in? The City’s map isn’t very helpful.

I apologize with the semi off topic comment, there aren’t a lot of eastmoor threads and this didn’t seem to warrant its own!

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I’ll go ahead and say it: I don’t think this City has the drive or creativity to really fix an area like this.

We aren’t very motivated to try a lot of new things (at the government level).

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Walker Evans wrote:

But I don’t believe that the concentration of poverty into one centralized community was ever a good idea.

I don’t think anyone would seriously say that concentrations of poverty is a good idea. I don’t think anyone would honestly say that mixed income neighborhoods are a bad idea.

Obviously this conversation has moved on since you posted this walker, but replies like this are what makes it hard to have real discourse on this issue. I get that you live in this area and so are a little more directly targeted by comments on changing demographics, but no one is saying that wealthier and/or white people can’t move to the NES.

Others have done a great job showing how previous policies have created these large concentrations of poverty in the first place, but it’s important to also look at how today’s version of “urban renewal” is having these same effects. As you mentioned yourself, the majority of people in the NES aren’t homeowners, they rent. That means the the majority of residents are dependent on market forces to stay in these neighborhoods. Without some sort of intervention to control for more affordable and yes, public housing, people will be displaced. This can have serious repercussions over the long run (ie, how Weinland park ended up so much more notably poor than the surrounding areas) but what’s really disturbing is how quickly publicly sanctioned displacement is happening right now.

Like innercore said, there are some blatant issues coming up with the lack of amenities in the areas of town that are affordable and have decent housing (suburbs/exurban areas). Then there is the fact that the private market (including subsidized affordable housing) can’t serve all individuals from public housing. First, not all landlords are willing to take vouchers, second there can be issues with family size (check out the bedrooms in public housing versus what you’ll find on craigslist) and lastly background/credit check issues. We’re simply forcing some people into substandard units in other distressed areas; this is not a solution. It seems willfully ignorant to dismiss this issue.

Again, a true integration is what’s needed. That would be ADDING market rate units to this neighborhood (not replacing public housing) and ADDING more affordable/public options to wealthier areas.

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If some higher income residents move into the neighborhood, then what you have is a mixed-income neighborhood.

Keeping an area artificially impoverished is not a solution to “gentrification”.

You’re talking past me, walker. DISPLACING poorer families and moving in higher income families is the issue here. There are tons of vacant houses and lots in the area already, had market rate developments been built on the already vacant land to ADD to the neighborhood or if this were a drive to get people to purchase and renovate vacant homes than there would be room for your argument.

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To me the bigger issue is of class. Even if only black people end up moving to this area, they are clearly targeting higher income groups. Even if everyone is checking the same ethnicity on the census form this is still an issue of gentrification and inequality. It’s not suddenly OK because some black people are cool with it.

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Miriam Bowers Abbott wrote:

It’s easy to want to save stuff, when it’s some one else’s money.

Well, remember, it’s someone else’s money to demolish it, too. The school district is spending 77k for demolition, then however much for years and years of maintenance.

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Miriam Bowers Abbott wrote:

It’s easy to want to save stuff, when it’s some one else’s money.

Well, remember, it’s someone else’ money to demolish it, too. The school district is spending 77k for demolition, then however much for years and years of maintenance.

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I’ve never lived in OTE myself, but I have relatives who lived on Franklin Ave near Franklin Park for about a decade when the area was rougher until about 5 years ago. They were never broken into, never mugged, and had 4 kids who played outside without issue. The homes are also gorgeous.

That being said, That block of Franklin Ave near Rhodes is one of the most consistent in OTE and isn’t really indicative of the neighborhood as a whole. I’d thoroughly check out any block you’re considering at different times of the day and different days of the week.

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jbcmh81 said:
I was referring more to intent rather than results.

But the result are well known and they still intend to do this, just like many other GOP voter suppression tactics. It’s hard to argue that they aren’t intentionally targeting minorities when they know exactly what they’re doing.

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