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If there are architects and/or engineers out there who really want to do something public-minded for historic neighborhoods, they could start coming up with cost-effective, replicable plans for converting doubles into single-family residences. WP in particular is full of 2,500-2,700 sq ft doubles that would make great, modern-sized single family homes.
Robert Cauldwell’s house is a double that’s been converted to a single family. He lives on the east side of N5th St, btwn 7th and 8th Aves. He walked me through it last summer, it’s quite nice.
As for the discussion on demolishing single fams and replacing with new build Section 8s. I could be wrong, but I don’t get the sense that the Wagonbrenner team holds THAT many properties. My guess is they hold perhaps 30 parcels, and that the majority of those houses are probably too nice to demolish (hopefully). I know they’ve bought some that had been extensively rehabbed (e.g. all new mechanicals) by the previous owners, although the surfaces (floors, walls, etc) may now be trashed due to recent tenants and in need of replacement.
Personally, I’m against tearing down anymore of the existing housing stock than is absolutely necessary, but perhaps some of the landbanks could/should be torn down (I can think of one on N5th St). I think most of the landbanked properties are in the landbank because they are so bad off that no one will buy them. They were beyond renovating from an economic standpoint. Looking at the landbank website, I don’t see that many landbanked properties, so we’re hopefully not looking at a lot of demolition.
I’m still optimistic that gentrification is possible for WP, but I’ll say that Wagonbrenner is hurting that trend presently as they hold all of their acquisitions in a VACANT state. There’s way too much vacany right now and a lot of it is because Wagonbrenner isn’t moving on the units they’ve bought. I’m having a hard time finding and keeping good tenants in my few units because of all of the vacancies around them. Nobody wants to live in a ghost neighborhood.
CL *is* quite good for finding tenants. However, as more and more people seem to be using it, one has to screen more carefully than in the early days.
@Labi – An increase or decrease in crime really has nothing to do with gentrification.
While I agree that crime waves happen no matter how gentrified a neighborhood is, and also that hightened gentification (i.e. a higher affluence gradient) can result in more crime events, I would venture that increaingly gentrified areas typically have less crime, or at least less serious crime.
I’ve lived in VV since the mid-80’s. I’ve always felt that the Short North in general has remarkably little serious crime given its urban location. The vast majority of our our crime is car break-ins. I’ve experienced it and I know dozens others who also have. It’s not fun to have your car broken into, but cost-wise and hassle-wise it’s not much worse than getting your car towed for street cleaning, which also happens all the time.
High Street crime sprees and the occasional agg-robbery (my dear wife experienced this) are much more serious, but still not very common. While there is more serious crime, I think that’s the consequence of now much more affluent neighborhood has become. But if you look at the amount of crime and the economic (and even emotional/psychological) consequences of the crime vs. the overall rise in “value” or quality of the neighborhood, along with a much great number of more wealthy people inhabiting it, the SN is as safe or safer than it has ever been and safer then many similar neighborhoods in this and other cities.
Without being a crime expert and w/o a lot of statistical analysis, it’s hard to back up any claim, so this is merely my sense of the neighborhood. BTW, I grew up on the east-side of Cleveland in a nice neighborhood, but traveled through and went to school for eight years commuting through some extremely tough places on my way to/from the center city. JMO, I wouldn’t trade the SN’s setting and crime stats for any comparable neighborhood (if any exist at our scale and quality) in Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Indy, Cincinnati, or even Chicago.
I also think (but can’t prove) that police response times and police presence are important deterrents to crime, and if those drop in the SN because of this realignment, we may see more serious crime. Criminals know where the money is, they also size up their chances of getting caught while choosing where to strike. Lower police presence and higher response time will make it easier to commit and get away with crime.
I really like the FD but have never sold blood, though I know some people who do. One nice thing about the plama donor center(aka stab lab) is that it’s mostly an early-day business. Many of their customers are broke early in the AM so they line up there to replenish personal funds. The lab closes at 4PM so their clients are not around as much in the evenings. Donors do provide a much needed commodity and at least they aren’t panhandling or worse to meet their needs, but this kind of business was located here at a time when the neighborhood is not what is it today, so like the soup kitchens, 2nd- hand furniture stores, etc. location-wise, it’s (becoming) obsolete.
Or maybe Plaza is looking for another Casino developer to buy it off of them. Who knows?
Ahhh, don’t think other casino developers have access to Columbus, no? Only Penn National.
It is very hard to gain but won’t be saved for the Jackson only. The commission has a previous granted height variance that allows a current building south of the Jackson to extend 7 stories.
If I’m not mistaken, the owners of the Garden Theater parcel have also been given a height variance to build seven or so stories.
I also wouldn’t mind seeing an apartment complex on 3rd in the vacant land near the hospital. If and only if they keep the neighborhood in mind with the design.
Plaza Properties was on tap to build 3-story residential condo units on that land, but market conditions tanked so their plans have likely been deferred. Maybe since they just sold that AD land to the casino they are now primed to move on it.
I enjoy rolling into Udipi for their weekday lunch buffet special. It’s all very interesting but I’m never quite sure what I’m supposed to put in those little metal bowls… fill them w/one of the chutneys or one of those soups(?), or something further down the line? Then do you eat the bowl of chutney by itself or use it as sauce for the rice cake or something else??? There’s lots of great flavors, but I suspect I do the equivalent to pouring ketchup on my oatmeal.
IMO, while it very unfortunate to have the gaping hole that is the Ibiza lot along our Short North High Street corridor, you should consider and give credit to some of the positives RMR has brought to High Street and the Short North. I think Dakota is certainly a positive, as it Union (despite the loss of most of the Starry Night mural), and the townhouses they built on Buttles across from the pond are great. They have succeeded in getting a lot of good things built around here and they’ve attracted a lot of good people into the neighborhood because of their efforts.
We’re still in a historic real estate meltdown. Banks are still not lending. They aren’t lending to develop and build high rises like Ibiza, and they also aren’t lending for land transfers. So RMR probably couldn’t sell that lot if they tried, as least for any respectable price. (If I’m not mistaken, I thought I saw that they had it listed.)
Jackson was able to move forward b/c they locked in their financing before the bust. It was lucky timing on their part. Ithink at that time, RMR was still working on selling out Dakota. So they were preoccupied and couldn’t/didn’t get financing.
Eventually, something will get built at the Ibiza location. Perhaps still RMR’s Ibiza design or perhaps something else. From the standpoint of our local economy, that location is too valuable and Short North popularity is too strong for it to sit vacant for any longer than the macro-economy/bank freeze causes it to. Unfortunately, it’s going to take more time. News from JPMorgan yesterday (higher loan losses…this from the sole major bank that had avoided major loan losses) points to the fact that the bust isn’t over yet.
At least the Rosendale space hasn’t been turned into a soup kitchen; and we don’t have 30% unemployment and people lined up on High Street waiting for their daily allotment of free bread and watery soup.
I just know it’s a sports bar.
I heard it was going to be an innovative & original new Thai restaurant.
Brad – Can you share with us with any info the type of commercial/retail tenant(s) you are considering for the ground floor? Will they likely be regional or national?
My complements on how great The Jackson is looking. The view of it is quite impressive, especially as I ride my bike down 4th Ave from Summit Street toward High Street in the evening.
Realizing it may still be awhile off, are there any plans to have an open house during a gallery hop?
north4thlikeme: Based on your mentality and the fact you don’t live in WP anymote, I have to say that WP IS getting better. With you gone, there’s one less of the kind of people we don’t need living here. If ya wanna be a ‘banger or a thug, or spend your days posted up waiting for your check to arrive, you can do that in any other hell-hole corner of the city you want to. Leave a place like WP to people who want to improve themselves and/or the neighborhood. That’s WP’s future. It’s too well located, too close to OSU and the rest of the (functional) SN to house the number of lost people is has in the recent past. So roll on, and hey, hit that stem for me will ya?
Driking a heini outdoors is breaking lease terms if you’re on CPO property. Indirectly, the cops have an interest in making sure CPO terms are enforced.
As for the rest of your post, I just cant say shit, but I wish you would say that to people in the short, and tell them they are low lives. You wont though, we all know that. you would rather bitch on the internet bout it.
Who’s “we all” and what do you “know”?
Actually I’ve accused quite a few people in WP of being low-lives, deadbeat, crack-heads, and worse, often before I evict them.
From what I’ve heard, CPO’s leases, or whatever document that defines the terms of residency for their tax-payer-subsided tenants, forbid consumption of any kind of alcohol on the exterior of their premises. Imagine the encroahment on personal freedom that is! So you can’t post up with an open 40 or a pint of wine on any CPO porch, even if you’re the tenant. When you do, you’ll likely get harrassed by the cops. If you owned property there you’d know why they want it that way.
If you object to these terms and this kind of treatment, get straight, get educated, get a job, and get housing that you pay for yourself in a part of town with less subsidized housing.
If the police don’t continually harrass and run 50s on people that are partying, loitering, hanging out, or even walking the streets of WP, pretty soon there’s a critical mass of unlawful s**t going on, and someone eventually gets victimized in much worse ways, like getting shot. So as unfair as it may sound, it’s really for the better of those that are profiled. It comes with the territory of being a low-life, looking like a low-life, and/or hanging with low-lives, and an area teeming with low-lives. (Low-lives = people who aren’t supporting themselves (legally) and conseqently are on the take, living the thug life, and living in denial/justifying it all by claiming they are oppressed.)
When the cops pull up, if you not holding anything illegal, are not doing anything unlawful, and don’t have warrant, there’s nothing to worry about, right? It’s just a friendly chat with the babysitter, I mean the law.
Yes, that WAS a fun rally. I was there for awhile. It would be neat to have a DJ or band play on that patio sometime. It’s big enough for a good-sized party or gathering.
Angel was cool, but her business dried up when the new barbershop opened up by Kelly’s. If not a coffee shop, an art studio/gallery is very possible.
If anyone wants to open a coffee shop, there’s a space for rent at N4th and 7th Ave with a patio. It’s the old Angel’s Barbershop.