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  • #82943

    http://www.examiner.com/x-4198-Vegan-Examiner~y2010m8d7-Your-First-Day-as-a-Vegan?cid=exrss-Vegan-Examiner

    If you are considering veganism, this article has some really great advice.

    I’ll never forget the first time I tried to make a veganized casserole for the family using a bunch of processed vegan substitutes, kack! It landed squarely in the compost pile because….even the dogs wouldn’t eat it!

    Hey all you vegans out there, this would be a great place to share your crazy vegan transition adventures.

    #394275

    Columbus has a thriving vegan community (as does much of the world anymore that is only a click away) where you can get to know lots of other people who can share great vegan product suggestions and recipes, transition tips and camaraderie.

    Here are a few resources to check out if you are curious:

    The Columbus Vegan Meetup Group

    Columbus, OH
    2,208 Columbus vegans

    The Columbus Vegan Meetup Group is open to anyone who is vegan, non-vegan, and vegan-curious.It’s a casual, nonjudgmental group that provides vegan support and offers opportu…

    Next Meetup

    Cleveland Veg Fest 2017

    Saturday, Jun 3, 2017, 11:00 AM
    35 Attending

    Check out this Meetup Group →

    * American Vegan- Published by the American Vegan Society http://www.americanvegan.org

    * The Vegetarian Resource Group http://www.vrg.org

    http://www.vegnews.com A great magazine for introducing vegan people, places, products, events etc.
    http://www.vegguide.org/ Finds vegan friendly restaurants nationally and internationally
    http://www.veganbodybuilding.com Connect with other fitness minded folk who are vegan
    http://www.animalemancipation.com/forum animal rights discussion board
    http://www.veganfreaks.net/forum

    Critical Viewing:

    A Life Connected
    http://www.veganvideo.org

    Animal Rights:
    http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/video/

    Earthlings:
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7584730387826688635

    #394276
    Chris Sunami
    Chris Sunami
    Participant

    I’m neither a vegan nor planning on becoming one, but I definitely appreciate this non-confrontational approach to promoting veganism.

    And who knows, maybe all I need is just a large enough supply of good enough recipes!

    #394277

    Thanks Chris :-)

    Speaking of food-
    Here are some vegan and vegan friendly restaurants
    Dragonfly – Totally Vegan
    On the Fly – Vegan everyday except Sunday brunch serves eggs
    Pattycake Vegan Bakery (High Street in Clintonville & sells goods in Clintonville Community Coop and many local coffee shops Cup of Joes, Cafe Apropos)
    Rad Dog Hotdog stand- Totally vegan
    Whole World (High in Clintonville) Vegan and Vegetarian
    Zpizza (Short North on High)
    Café Bella (North of Campus on High)
    Northstar Café (3 locations- Short North/Beechwold/Easton)
    Betty’s (Short North)
    Surly Girl (Short North)
    Tip Top (Gay Street Down Town)
    Bodega (Short North)
    Mazah- (Grandview Ave)
    Nong’s (Asian) King and Northwest
    Lemongrass (Thai) Short North
    Blue Nile (Ethiopian) High St. North of Campus
    Udipi Café (Indian) on 161 near Cleveland Ave.
    Starliner Diner (Cuban/Latin) (Hilliard- Cemetery Road)
    Aladdin’s (several locations: Grandview, Clintonville, Bexley)
    Lavash (High Street in Clintonville)
    Hal & Al’s (German Village Parsons Ave)
    Oodles (Downtown on Main and Short North on Neil)
    Noodles (Multiple Locations- Grandview, Dublin)

    The good news is, virtually any restaurant is willing to work with you on creating something from things they already have on their menu.

    Pick up prepared foods at Clintonville Community Market:
    Portia’s raw foods
    Wellness Forum Foods

    Order your food in advance, and have delivered, catered or pick up:
    Wellness Forum Foods – Vegan Chef Del – made to order, does gluten free too
    Brain Food http://brainfoodfuturefood.com/ Raw vegan food and smoothies

    Whole Foods, Giant Eagle, Kroger, Raisin Rack, Hills Market etc all have vegan foods in their stores- Whole Foods deli has General Tso’s Vegan Chicken is pretty popular among omni’s.

    #394278

    A new documentary in the works on vegans :-)

    http://www.vegandocumentary.com/

    #394279

    For dietary excellence and better affordability, avoiding processed and refined, high fat content foods and sticking with fresh, organic, low fat, preferably locally grown, whole plant-based foods is ideal. Many people find transitioning to vegan eating is easier when using substitutes for their favorite animal products, however, these products are often more expensive than their animal based counter parts, are still refined and processed, and may establish a bad habit of eating a lot of processed foods. Although vegan substitutes may be remarkably healthier from a 0 cholesterol and lack of antibiotics, steroids, hormones, puss, blood, pathogens, bacteria, virus, a lot of different chemicals (dyes, pesticides, herbicides, larvicides, fugicides, fertilizers, cleaners) and violence, and have less saturated fat, and actually has the added benefits of fiber, lignin’s, phytonutrients, antioxidants and water (which most animal products don’t). However, being processed, means they are still not always the healthiest choice. Processed vegan foods are still very capable of having a high fat and sugar content and even a nutritionally deficient and calorically dense reality (Example, Pepsi, pop tarts (not frosted), potato chips, popcorn drenched in a butter substitute oil etc. are all vegan, and they are obviously not healthy). Processed foods definitely fit in the category of “to be used in moderation”. To find transitional substitutes, go to the organic section of the conventional grocery store (Giant Eagle, Kroger, Meijer’s) or a more natural/organic foods Whole Foods, Trader Joes, Jungle Jims, The Raisin Rack or other health food stores near you is where you will find these items:

    Some easy switches from dairy:
    Instead of butter: Earth Balance Natural Buttery Spread
    Instead of cheese: Follow Your Heart vegan cheese – several varieties or Teese
    Instead of coffee creamer: Silk soy creamer (or mimic cream) is excellent. Plain soy milk doesn’t compare in coffee.
    Instead of cream cheese: tofutti brand better than cream cheese (you can still have your cheese cake!!!)
    Instead of heavy cream: Mimic crème by Green Rabbit (almond and cashew crème) also makes ice cream.
    Instead of ice cream: Temptation Vegan Ice Cream or Purely Decadent Soy Ice Cream (awesome variety of flavors like chocolate brownie almond, blueberry cheesecake, key lime pie, chocolate peanut butter, cookie dough) There are a litany of options, I may do a separate section just for frozen desert. Chicago Soy Dairy: http://www.chicagosoydairy.com (Teese vegan cheese and Temptation vegan ice cream)
    Mimiccream Non Dairy Creamer: http://www.Mimiccreme.com
    Instead of mayonnaise: Veganaise (also by Follow Your Heart)
    Instead of milk: Soy Milk, Nut Milk (Almond, Hazelnut, Macadamia, Cashew, Hemp) Rice Milk
    Instead of pudding: soy pudding (ready made pre-packed or make your own using silken tofu)
    Instead of sour cream: tofutti brand better than sour cream (makes amazing onion dip too!)
    Instead of whipped cream: Soy Whip by Soyatoo (in spray can or in a carton to use with beaters)
    Instead of yogurt: So Delicious Soy Yogurt and other yogurt varieties (there are several)

    Other common items:
    Instead of bacon Bits: Frontier “Bac’uns”
    Instead of beef or chicken broth: “Better Than Bouillon” No Beef or No Chicken Base or you can sub with any vegetable
    broth or bouillon. Rapunzel brand is very good veggie broth.
    Instead of eggs: Firm tofu for omelets, Ener G Egg Replacer Powder for baking or other egg substitutes
    Instead of gelatin: Gefen clear jell desert
    Instead of honey: 100% pure maple syrup, brown rice syrup, or agave nectar
    Instead of meats (including beef, pork, poultry, sausages and sea foods) see the link:
    Luna burgers and sausages (local company): http://www.lunaburger.com/lunaburger/Home.html
    http://www.meatalternatives.org/ or you can also find a ton of them at the grocery store in the frozen or refrigerated section:
    Nate’s Meatless Meatballs (I use these for a lot of things – taco filling; just mash with taco seasoning, also for meatball sandwiches, chili, meat pies, spaghetti sauce) and they also do taquitos- bean, chicken or beef
    Tofurky Brand: Turkey deli slices varieties and turkey roast, they also do Italian Sausages and Bratwurst
    BBQ Riblets (Garden burger brand), roast there is a vegan celebration roast
    Morningstar Farms does a line called Meal Starters that is vegan they have 2- chicken and steak strips- they work well as fajitas, or party platters for Bar-B-Q or hot wings for the chicken and Philly cheese steak sandwiches.
    There are many other veggie burger varieties: Garden Burger, Dr. Pregger’s or Sunshine. There are others but they may not be vegan- they like to put eggs or dairy in some of them. Gardien also makes good chicken and beef substitutes. You can still have your hot wings, just buy hot sauce and make your own sauce with earth balance buttery spread. The Morningstar Meal Starter Chicken Strips work well. Amy’s Kitchen does several frozen meals- one of my favorites is a breakfast called Tofu Scramble with hash browns and veggies.
    Instead of pulled pork: try jackfruit http://vegangelicalsouth.blogspot.com/2008/02/ive-got-your-pulled-pork-right-here.html

    #394280

    How to work a conventional restaurant menu:
    1- Be VERY friendly to the wait staff and identify yourself as a vegan or that you have dietary restrictions
    2- Pick an entree and ask if they will sub out meat and dairy items for grilled or fresh shitake, portabella or button mushrooms, beans, veggies, nuts, seeds, fruits, avocado, or possibly tofu or a meat substitute. Or order salad and/or side dishes and suggest the same types of toppings and substitutions. Be sure they are substitutions, I have had times when servers omitted the animal products and charged extra for the swapped requested items and was floored by the bill. From a satiety perspective, it is important to ensure you sub in other items to replace the items omitted from the usual dish or you will get less food and not be full.
    3- Tip well if you can for everyone’s extra efforts!

    **Most coffee shops now offer soy milk as an alternative. If they don’t offer soy milk or soy creamer, consider asking them “why not?” They may start carrying it if they know there is a demand :-)

    #394281

    Vegan Products Providers On-line (there are many; this is just a few):

    Ahimsa Footware: http://www.ahimsafootwear.com/
    Alternative Outfitters Vegan Boutique: http://www.alternativeoutfitters.com
    Cosmo’s Vegan Shoppe: http://www.cosmosveganshoppe.com
    Cow Jones Industrials Vegan Boutique: http://www.cowjonesindustrials.com
    Herbivore: http://www.herbivoreclothing.com
    Humanitaire (handbags, shoes, apparel, cosmetics etc): http://www.shophumanitaire.com
    Moo Shoes (bags, shoes, accessories and apparel): http://www.mooshoes.com
    O!Zone Wholesale (safety equipment): http://www.Ozonewholesale.com
    Pangea – The Vegan Store: http://www.veganstore.com
    The Merry Vegan: http://www.themerryvegan.com
    The Sensual Vegan: http://www.thesensualvegan.com
    The Ultimate Vegan Shopping Experience: http://www.heathy-eating.com
    Vegan Chic: http://www.veganchic.com
    Vegan Essentials: http://www.veganessentials.com
    Vegan shoes: http://www.vegshoes.com
    Vegie World: http://www.vegiworld.com

    Finding vegan substitutes: http://search.caringconsumer.com/

    #394282
    yurtgirl
    yurtgirl
    Participant

    I’ve been tossing the vegan option around for a few years. I’m lacto-ovo w/ an occasional fish but have recently sworn off fish. I guess this is just a gradual process that takes time. It seriously was easier to quit smoking than trying to quit dairy. I’m hoping by choosing Snowville Creamery and locally raised free range eggs I can at least be a bit more humane. My biggest reason for choosing vegetarian was due to the impact on the environment and the abhorrent conditions where factory farmed animals are raised. I still struggle w/ the morality of “no animal product” lifestyles. Why is it not okay to drink milk if the cows are treated fairly and humanely? Why not eat eggs if the chickens can run around the farmyard, eat bugs and have a cozy, safe place to sleep at night? I guess growing up on a farm has given me a skewed perception of the use of animals for the human race. Is there any race, ethnic group or race that totally stays away from animal products? I don’t know for sure but I think not. I think its impossible for anyone else but developed countries becuase we have the resources to make that choice. I’m only asking because I do struggle with this issue all the time. It takes a huge amount of time to plan menus on a vegan diet without all the processed crap. I’d rather eat good organic, “happy cow” cheese than the fake cheese with an ingredient list as long as your arm.
    Just a few thoughts. Would be interested in how others think about this.

    #394283

    Hello Yurtgirl! :-)
    Thank you for sharing your challenges and motivations in moving away from animal products! I’m always interested to hear people’s stories and backgrounds in making this journey in life. I’m positively impressed with your openness and your observations regarding your upbringing; thank you for being willing to do so. I remember being where you are right now. Like most people in our culture, I started out eating what ever was given to me and loved and ate animal products with the best of them. I took a similar path for the same reasons you stated above in eschewing meat first, and I was also hung up on the dairy and eggs initially. For nearly 2 years in fact. I was the only lacto-ovo vegetarian I knew at the time (2000) and I had never heard of the term “vegan”. I certainly couldn’t imagine life without ever having ice-cream or cheese pizza again. And I thought; “It’s not like they have to kill the cow for milk or the chicken to get eggs.” But, a turn of events (a tornado hit what used to be “Buckeye Egg Farm” in Croatin, Ohio) and in an effort to assist with that disaster, I was exposed to the reality of those abhorrent factory farms. I got involved with a local Animal organization whose focus was helping farmed animals by educating people to move to veganism. It was then that I discovered more about free range and humanely raised animals that turned me away for good. You asked some important questions that I will try to answer as simply as possible, and hopefully you don’t mind if I ask you some questions to consider and offer some additional information that I feel explains it better than I likely can. I’m not sure how many characters one can post in a single post so I’m going to address each of your questions separately.

    I hear you about the vegan cheese, I’m generally happier just not eating it; although, Zpizza does a pretty good job with Diaya vegan cheese. And, if I get a craving for a grilled cheese sandwich, Teese is decent. I often indulge with organic Spring Creek tofu instead of vegan cheese on salads and pizzas. While serving on jury duty, I had lunch at the Westin Hotel across the street from the courthouse; they did a [/b]fabulous[/b] margarita style flat bread with tofu instead of mozzarella. Same with the salad, they subbed the feta for tofu. It has such a mild flavor, the balsamic reduction and the pesto really made the dishes shine.

    #394284

    yurtgirl wrote >>
    Why is it not okay to drink milk if the cows are treated fairly and humanely?

    Vegans eschew dairy because they believe it is wrong to treat other individuals, human and non human alike, as property. In my journey, I discovered there is a lot more to the livestock life cycle than I initially considered with “humane treatment”. Millions are spent by the dairy industry marketing to us so that we focus on those bucolic green free range pastures, and hand milking maids while omitting many of the other standard practices that go on in the dairy cow’s life cycle. I’ll spare you the majority of those details in this explanation, however to illustrate this thought process, I would ask you this provocative yet analogous question: If a rapist/murderer wined and dined and treated kindly a mother, instead of torturing and beating her before and while they kidnapped and murdered her children, repeatedly raped and then ultimately, murdered her, would that make them humane? Given this is a human situation, I think we would both agree that is obviously an absurd question. But it opens the door to what is really happening to dairy cows on farms. Regardless of whether it is a factory farm or a free range farm, diary cows, and their offspring, are slaughtered for either hamburger or veal. Like children, farmed animals are under the control of their guardians, they do not really have a say or give consent in matters involving them, but while they certainly object to things that are done to them that they don’t like, they are the weaker of the power position and unable to prevent what is ultimately done to them. In your time on the farm, did you ever observe that the animals didn’t like something that was done to them? The only difference is, in our culture, children are rights holders who are protected from abuse and killing, and farmed animals are not. “Humane management” standards for farmed animals if done to even domestic companion animals such as cats and dogs, would be considered and prosecuted as felony abuse. Seldom are these humane standard violations are even prosecuted, let alone upheld. Feel free to investigate the thread on here regarding Conklin Dairy Farm:
    https://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/undercover-footage-from-conklin-dairy-in-plain-city-ohio

    As we learned with human slavery, it never fares as nicely for those treated as property. Humane laws serve one purpose; to ease our conscience. To make the things no one wants to think about, let alone participate in, acceptable. As illustrated with rapist/murder scenario, when those treatments are put to the human test, I’d hazard a wager that none of us want to be on the receiving end of that kind of “humane treatment.” Applying the human test is the easy way to determine how things rate on our scale of morality. Would we want it done to us? It is basic application of empathy.

    #394285

    kalencap
    Member

    There is also A Different Daisy http://www.differentdaisy.com

    (This one is located in Ohio. I use it for Deva vitamins primarily.)

    Red Sun Rising wrote >>
    Vegan Products Providers On-line (there are many; this is just a few):
    Ahimsa Footware: http://www.ahimsafootwear.com/
    Alternative Outfitters Vegan Boutique: http://www.alternativeoutfitters.com
    Cosmo’s Vegan Shoppe: http://www.cosmosveganshoppe.com
    Cow Jones Industrials Vegan Boutique: http://www.cowjonesindustrials.com
    Herbivore: http://www.herbivoreclothing.com
    Humanitaire (handbags, shoes, apparel, cosmetics etc): http://www.shophumanitaire.com
    Moo Shoes (bags, shoes, accessories and apparel): http://www.mooshoes.com
    O!Zone Wholesale (safety equipment): http://www.Ozonewholesale.com
    Pangea – The Vegan Store: http://www.veganstore.com
    The Merry Vegan: http://www.themerryvegan.com
    The Sensual Vegan: http://www.thesensualvegan.com
    The Ultimate Vegan Shopping Experience: http://www.heathy-eating.com
    Vegan Chic: http://www.veganchic.com
    Vegan Essentials: http://www.veganessentials.com
    Vegan shoes: http://www.vegshoes.com
    Vegie World: http://www.vegiworld.com
    Finding vegan substitutes: http://search.caringconsumer.com/

    #394286

    yurtgirl wrote >>
    Why not eat eggs if the chickens can run around the farmyard, eat bugs and have a cozy, safe place to sleep at night?

    I agree, that sounds like a happy life, and again, we are focusing on only a specific part of that life cycle. If you haven’t yet, you might consider asking those farmers what they do with the baby roosters who won’t ever produce eggs? OR Do they ever have to manage roosters? If they don’t, what does the facility they get their chicks from do with the baby roosters? Where do their egg laying chickens come from? How many eggs do they lay a year? What do they do with the chickens once their egg production declines? What is the average life expectancy for their chickens? What kind of vet care do they provide? How many chickens do they keep on their farm?

    Chickens prior to genetic modification, naturally laid about 25 eggs a year; now they lay approximately 230 eggs per year. This puts a tremendous strain on their bodies and they become osteoporotic very quickly and suffer other painful conditions such as infected and prolapsed oviducts. These chickens are often obtained from mass production pullet facilities. They are frequently mailed, and extras are always provided because they expect a certain amount of loss in transit. So the person who ordered the chicks has the “joy” of opening a box with several dead chicks; imagine how the other surviving babies must feel? And of course, how those who perished in the journey must have felt? And we haven’t even covered other practices, like slaughter.

    I would invite you to look at couple of sources that I feel better explains the reality for these animals, while tastefully asking provocative questions and suggesting some compelling and consistent ideas that are uncommonly presented regarding animals on humane farms and their plight as property:

    http://www.peacefulprairie.org/letter.html

    http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/video/I

    #394287

    yurtgirl wrote >>
    Is there any race, ethnic group or race that totally stays away from animal products?

    Yes, besides the millions of today’s vegans, there are very ancient groups of humans who have been around for centuries and still exist today, and they are from Eastern cultures; Jains, Hindus and Buddhists. They live a philosophy of Ahimsa, the heart of which is quoted as:

    “Do not injure, abuse, oppress, enslave, insult, torment, torture, kill any creature or living being.” Mahavira, Jain Patriarch.

    Unfortunately, many peoples from these group’s disciplines have been adulterated by succumbing to the pressures of western cultural influences while occupied with western colonization. Before then, they functioned sustainably and healthily without animal products in very simple societies. They were not modernized or industrialized and animal products were never part of their cultural indoctrination, so it is very easy for them.

    Veganism is a modern day renaissance applying Jainist principals, simply put: Veganism is a political commitment of nonviolence in all behaviors, not just dietary choices. It is in recognition of the practical world we live in, as in, unlike the Jains; vegans don’t wear face masks and sweep the ground before they walk to avoid stepping on the smaller beings. Most of us still drive cars, use mass transit, walk in or mow the lawn etc. Although, if someone is western society chooses to live as a Jain, we would have the utmost respect for and certainly wouldn’t discourage it. I’d say it may actually be easier to live in an animal free culture outside of modern society, since the Jains have demonstrated it for centuries before modern technology.

    #394288
    rus
    rus
    Participant

    http://buddhism.about.com/od/basicbuddhistteachings/a/vegetarianism.htm

    tl;dr version: Not all Buddhists are veg, and that’s got little to do with western influence.

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