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  • #368276
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
    Keymaster

    Talcott wrote >>
    Or has this been proposed and shot down in the past?

    Not that I’m aware of.

    Tigertree wrote >>
    I say this with extreme caution as I have made my stance known on the casino move. That said I think good can be made out of every situation so I will say that, if our community (and that part needs to be stressed because Penn isn’t going to do it) gets together, there will be an influx of new money to the area as well as jobs, and we can channel that into something. Everything from the floor layout down to the parking garage in a casino is designed to keep you there as long as possible. So not much hope for overflow to surrounding businesses for casino patrons, but if the current retail and dining mix is to support x employed persons in the area and that x factor jumps significantly there is some hope. Now is the time to start getting together to get the overlay that should be in place extended so we see more than short lived strip mall revitalization.

    +1 to all of that.

    #368277

    kcrissinger
    Member

    Twixlen wrote >>
    Naw naw naw… I’m thinking of Wingate Villages… I always want to call it Lincoln Village, because I know the side street is Lincoln Ct, and because I’m an idiot. Sorry for the confusing… I’m talking about those complexes right behind Westland off G-ville – Wingate is all but abandoned and it’s all so rough and not kept up at all.

    You’re not an idiot, we love ya.

    I knew what you were talking about. Those apartments started as Lincoln Park West. Then they changed to Shannon Way. Then Oak something or other. Now they’re Wingate. They are in definite need of obliteration (in fact, while you’re at it, demolish Wedgewood at the same time).

    #368278
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
    Keymaster

    Casino Brings Expectation Of Economic Turnaround
    By Patrick Preston
    Published: May 06, 2010

    Columbus’ west side is anticipating an economic turnaround in the wake of Issue 2 passing. The casino is expected to be a catalyst for development in the surrounding neighborhood after Ohio voters agreed to move the facility out of the Arena District and onto the former Delphi plant site on Georgesville Road.

    READ MORE: http://www2.nbc4i.com/news/2010/may/06/casino-brings-expectation-economic-turnaround-ar-70035/

    #368279

    Twixlen
    Participant

    I love the tack on to the end of the write up that the casino MAY improve housing values. Thanks for the bone, NBC4!

    #368280

    jackoh
    Participant

    Walker wrote >>
    Personally, I’m concerned that whatever new development we see occurring won’t be long-term development. I think Swampkitty has made this point in some other threads about the Casino, but essentially, what we might be looking at is a short-term shot in the arm for these strip malls and retail centers along Broad. The suburban retail configuration along Broad out there needs a major overhaul if we expect something a little more long-term. Otherwise, in 15 years we might be right back where we started.

    This is precisely the point. The market for the purchase of sites or parcels of land in this area given the prospect of the casino should be good. But that market is based on pure speculation and it is speculation on land values and potential leases, it is not the development of businesses in the area. And what is dangerous for that area is for speculators to acquire sites and expect a really good return on their investment, so that the leases that they offer end up detering fledgling businesses that could improve the area but couldn’t afford the lease.

    #368281

    misskitty
    Participant

    kcrissinger wrote >>

    Twixlen wrote >>
    I admit I’m thinking of the overall complex it could be there, at that intersection of G-ville + West Broad, down to the 270 ramps.
    Some restaurants, decent retail…. maybe even a real grocery store?? KROGER? ARE YOU LISTENING? That store @ the Soldano plaza is crap.

    LOL. Maybe we can bury Kroghetto West soon.

    Ahh Kroger I think I am attached to it sentimentally a little because a lot of the people that work there have been working there since I was in high school.
    And I usually find some pretty great deals on “fresh” fish. ;)
    lol

    However the only thing that really irks me is the lay out. I feel like I should be congratulating them on well played placing of the toys In the isle with the cereal, PB&J and other cool stuff. But when ever I take my son shopping and we hit that isle it’s hell. He knows I am not going to buy grocery store toys but that never stops him from asking a lot. Well played Kroger Well played

    #368282

    Tigertree
    Member

    I think you forgot to put fresh in quotes.

    #368283

    byJody
    Participant

    I really don’t know where to post this idea, but since this seems to be the current ‘casino’ thread, I’ll add it here. Although it is regarding the AD site.

    Not sure if this has been mentioned, but now that the Nationwide Blvd land can be sold, what if this could be the site of the proposed Columbus Field House?

    The business first article mentions high density housing, which would be fine except that it is going to take awhile to soak up the current inventory throughout Central Ohio (IMO).

    #368284

    Remember that bubbles and speculations always at some point pop…I’m concerned that people will gamble on empty lots that (are cheap now eventhough they doubled from $500 to $100 b/c of Tuesday’s referendum on the issue to mve to West Side) but they won’t have the resources to improve. We need a law in columbus that prohibits owners from justing sitting on a distressed property hoping that in the future it will be worth more without making any effort or investment today

    #368285

    For example go to Franklin County Auditor and check out PID 010-009510
    This property is across from The New Whitney – which is amazing – as nice as Harrison Park in Harrison West – great construction and design and a downtown view. This building is equivalent to a chiekcen coop and is boarded up and it looks worse now – do you think new condo owners paying $200K will want to look at this – I don’t think so!
    010-009510-00 010-H049 -014-00 ROBINSON DANIEL B 251 HAMILTON AV

    Perhaps there should be a “vacant” building tax or something!

    #368286

    Something like that would be a slippery slope–in my opinion. I’m not sure what sort of legal premise that could be done on constitutionally, other than nuisance law, but it may be difficult to prove the situation is a public nuisance.

    KingLincolnUrbanEnthusiast wrote >>
    Remember that bubbles and speculations always at some point pop…I’m concerned that people will gamble on empty lots that (are cheap now eventhough they doubled from $500 to $100 b/c of Tuesday’s referendum on the issue to mve to West Side) but they won’t have the resources to improve. We need a law in columbus that prohibits owners from justing sitting on a distressed property hoping that in the future it will be worth more without making any effort or investment today

    #368287

    johnwirtz
    Participant

    KingLincolnUrbanEnthusiast wrote >>
    Perhaps there should be a “vacant” building tax or something!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_value_tax

    #368288

    johnwirtz
    Participant

    kcrissinger wrote >>
    It is good to see positive things happening already. This may just turn out to be the thing that brings back the area. I’m excited to see what great new dining options may be presented.

    I’m less optimisic. Casinos near me don’t appear to have done anything good for Joliet, IL; Elgin, IL; Aurora, IL; or Gary, IN.

    #368289

    I’m not sure that solves the issue that King Lincoln brought up, if a land speculator has enough cash they can sit on a distressed property in a valued area without doing anything and only pay the property taxes. That is the way that most real estate tax works (as far as I know at least) and people still sit on distressed property in the hopes that something in the area will happen and double their investment. I think we have seen some of this on the West Side already.

    Displaced Columbusite wrote >>
    Something like that would be a slippery slope–in my opinion. I’m not sure what sort of legal premise that could be done on constitutionally, other than nuisance law, but it may be difficult to prove the situation is a public nuisance.

    KingLincolnUrbanEnthusiast wrote >>
    Remember that bubbles and speculations always at some point pop…I’m concerned that people will gamble on empty lots that (are cheap now eventhough they doubled from $500 to $100 b/c of Tuesday’s referendum on the issue to mve to West Side) but they won’t have the resources to improve. We need a law in columbus that prohibits owners from justing sitting on a distressed property hoping that in the future it will be worth more without making any effort or investment today

    #368290

    well, I screwed that up; didn’t mean to meply my own quote, that was meant for Johnwirtz wiki link.

    don’t have my A game today.

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