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Top 40 High Crash Intersections in Central Ohio

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    leftovers
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    rus said:
    Which makes me wonder just how much a factor traffic engineering is.

    I think Walker touched upon it. Things like curb cuts are part of traffic engineering and the more there are I am guessing the more likely human error will come into play. This would be multiplied by having to cross multiple lanes. A good part of engineering is trying to figure in the human factor.

    #543785
    rus
    rus
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    leftovers said:
    I think Walker touched upon it. Things like curb cuts are part of traffic engineering and the more there are I am guessing the more likely human error will come into play. This would be multiplied by having to cross multiple lanes. A good part of engineering is trying to figure in the human factor.

    That does make sense. Some areas less unforgiving, perhaps.

    Still, I can’t count the number of times I’ve seen people driving erratically and then notice they’re playing with their phones or something similar.

    #543786
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
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    rus said:
    Still, I can’t count the number of times I’ve seen people driving erratically and then notice they’re playing with their phones or something similar.

    Yeah, but that’s *all* roads and *all* intersections. One would think that distracted cell phone driving would cause an uptick in crashes across the board, not just at the specific locations that made the top of the charts.

    #543787
    rus
    rus
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    Walker said:
    Yeah, but that’s *all* roads and *all* intersections. One would think that distracted cell phone driving would cause an uptick in crashes across the board, not just at the specific locations that made the top of the charts.

    Quite possible, but you’re presuming all drivers are distracted at the same rate. If there’s a lot of stop and go traffic ( from bad design, perhaps? ) then some may choose to pass time fiddling with electronics heightening distraction, leading to greater driver caused accidents.

    #543788

    tdziemia
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    Walker said:
    Speeding is certainly a factor, but only part of that is due to driver choice and part of it is due to road design. Wider lanes and wider roads with few visual cues for specific speeds can cause driving at faster speeds to seem more natural. A great example of that, here:
    http://xingcolumbus.wordpress.com/2010/03/01/clintonville-area-commission-seeks-lower-speed-limit/

    Well, I read the link, but remain unconvinced, because the main conclusion is that drivers will drive at a speed they perceive to be safe, rather than the posted speed. And so, we are supposed to use taxpayer money to alter drivers’ perceptions by investing in various road modifications? Rather than enforce the speed limits???

    An alternative solution: cameras and a helluva lot of speeding tickets for a month or two. I am going to guess that’s a cheaper and more effectve way to modify driver behavior. Case in point. My first year in Columbus I got a handful of parking tickets because I wasn’t used to the strict enforcement. I changed my behavior and haven’t gotten another one since.
    I think for most people, when law enforcement hits their wallets, they sit up and take notice and change their behavior.

    #543789
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
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    tdziemia said:
    Walker said:
    And so, we are supposed to use taxpayer money to alter drivers’ perceptions by investing in various road modifications? Rather than enforce the speed limits???

    Well, we should be implementing proper urban design from the beginning. ;)

    What I’m saying is that the common solution for traffic congestion woes is to use taxpayer money to just add more lanes for more capacity. But the act of adding more lanes then leads to a wider visual space where speeding is easier and then leads to more crashes.

    Certainly, traffic laws should be enforced. But that’s really just a bandaid solution.

    #543790

    tdziemia
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    Well … I am all in favor of forward thinking design preventing traffic problems.

    But I’m still scratching my head at the notion that expecting people to obey speed limits is “just a bandaid.”

    Whatevah … is this horse dead yet?

    #543791

    Pablo
    Participant

    Cleveland & Morse has been on the top 10 list as long as I can remember. When I worked at Northland Mall in the early ’80s I would take back roads to get to work to avoid Morse Rd.

    #543792
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
    Keymaster

    tdziemia said:
    But I’m still scratching my head at the notion that expecting people to obey speed limits is “just a bandaid.”

    I didn’t say that at all.

    I said enforcing traffic laws is a bandaid in the context of poorly designed roadway systems.

    #543793
    rus
    rus
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    tdziemia said:

    Whatevah … is this horse dead yet?

    Nah. Traffic problems are only a result of insufficient central planning. Individual attention ( or lack thereof ) is of no consequence.

    People don’t matter, only a strong central system matters. That’s why public transportation of any kind is preferable to cars ( and by extension bikes and walking ), since eliminating choice eliminates interference with the Plan.

    /trollin

    #1041455

    News
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    Broad Street Named as Most Accident-Prone for Drivers
    September 12, 2014 9:33 am – Walker Evans

    The Mid Ohio Regional Planning Commission (MORPC) just released their annual list of most dangerous intersections for automobile drivers in Central Ohio, and once again, the list is topped by the heavily trafficked crossroads of Morse Road and Cleveland Avenue on the city’s northeast side. Over 57,000 cars travel through this intersection every day, and there were 71 crashes there in 2013 (or, one every five days).

    READ MORE: https://www.columbusunderground.com/broad-street-named-as-most-accident-prone-for-drivers

    #1041456

    News
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    Suburban Streets in Columbus More Accident-Prone than Urban Streets
    September 15, 2014 4:09 pm – Walker Evans

    Last week, the Mid Ohio Regional Planning Commission (MORPC) released the latest list of the most dangerous intersections in Central Ohio. There were no major surprises with the 40 intersections that were called out as the most high-crash areas, but a deeper look at the data reveals a bit of an urban/suburban divide.

    READ MORE: https://www.columbusunderground.com/suburban-streets-in-columbus-more-accident-prone-than-urban-streets

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