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Timken Site Redevelopment - News & Updates

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  • #448874

    dru
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    ^ agreed. I don’t think people will think about buying a sweater at Tigertree, a dress at Rowe, a couch from Grid or a growler at 7th Son but then opt for a sweater, dress, futon or 2-liter at Walmart. It could divert me from buying contact lens solution at the Neil Ave CVS though. And if they sell Fried Chicken, watch out 5th/Cleve retail!

    As for my original thought on location. The Hilliard-Rome Walmart doesn’t need highway visibility because its consumer base lives in the neighborhoods further down H-R road. There are dozens of subs back that way. MG, not so much. It would need to attract people. And perhaps it would, but it is not currently a highly accessible location for a large population.

    #448875

    mrpoppinzs
    Member

    One needs to get beyond the fact it is technically in MG, as someone said the Timken site is a little over two-thirds of a mile from High St and in close proximity to the most densely populated neighborhoods in Columbus.

    #448876

    rory
    Participant

    I can see it being competition for the new Kroger if they have groceries but other than that it’s not really duplicating any other nearby retail. And it could only help spur redevelopment along that stretch of Cleveland towards downtown

    #448877

    goldenidea
    Participant

    From the standpoint of this being a viable location for a WalMart, I think it’s excellent. Realizing it lacks the same freeway visability and access, I still think it’s almost as a good a location as Lennox Center. It will draw plenty of people from the University District, Short North, Clintonville, and probably Granview, UA, etc., and also plenty of people from the eastside and from areas to the south in and around downtown. If WalMart is seriously considering an inner-city location in Columbus and is looking this site, I’ll be surprised if they pass on it.

    As for the impact it will have on existing local businesses, I think it will be almost nil except possibly for Lennox tenants especially Target, and maybe Lowes and AutoZone and perhaps Kroger (though I bet they can compete on price), and perhaps a very few speciality retailers, (like perhaps Posh Pets for example?). But I bet most of these speciality retailers sell to very local customers who won’t bother to drive to WalMart to get what they can buy on High Street. Most Short North retailers are not value-based, but offer products based on uniqueness along with offering the SN shopping experience.

    I think the near northside and many near-city neighborhoods would benefit from a WalMart at this location, including of course, Milo-Grogan.

    The more tasteful this development is, the better. I would be nice if it wasn’t a big-box island surround by a sea of parking lots, but rather the urban storefront layout other posters have mentioned. MG isn’t really ready for that layout unfortunately. The sea of parking lots might actually work better.

    #448878

    mrpoppinzs
    Member

    ^ +1 well said

    #448879
    Josh Lapp
    Josh Lapp
    Participant

    goldenidea said:
    From the standpoint of this being a viable location for a WalMart, I think it’s excellent. Realizing it lacks the same freeway visability and access, I still think it’s almost as a good a location as Lennox Center. It will draw plenty of people from the University District, Short North, Clintonville, and probably Granview, UA, etc., and also plenty of people from the eastside and from areas to the south in and around downtown. If WalMart is seriously considering an inner-city location in Columbus and is looking this site, I’ll be surprised if they pass on it.

    As for the impact it will have on existing local businesses, I think it will be almost nil except possibly for Lennox tenants especially Target, and maybe Lowes and AutoZone and perhaps Kroger (though I bet they can compete on price), and perhaps a very few speciality retailers, (like perhaps Posh Pets for example?). But I bet most of these speciality retailers sell to very local customers who won’t bother to drive to WalMart to get what they can buy on High Street. Most Short North retailers are not value-based, but offer products based on uniqueness along with offering the SN shopping experience.

    I think the near northside and many near-city neighborhoods would benefit from a WalMart at this location, including of course, Milo-Grogan.

    The more tasteful this development is, the better. I would be nice if it wasn’t a big-box island surround by a sea of parking lots, but rather the urban storefront layout other posters have mentioned. MG isn’t really ready for that layout unfortunately. The sea of parking lots might actually work better.

    The real question for this site is not what will be located there but rather whether the city will have the fortitude to enforce the Milo-Grogan plan and or the UCO that governs the area. Plans, codes, and zoning only matter if the city council is willing to stand by them when a developer comes forward.

    This site, along with Grandview Yard, Jeffery Park, the former casino site and the Scioto Peninsula, mark the last few large areas of developable land in the central city and will therefore determine the trajectory of urban development in Columbus for the foreseeable future. In all likelihood when Light Rail is built in Columbus it will pass directly alongside this site.

    For the health and the future of urban Columbus its essential that these sites are developed with the guiding principals of walkability and high quality urban design. Five more Lennox Town Centers we need not…

    #448880

    goldenidea
    Participant

    ^You make a great point and I agree, but we’ll have to see if the developers and the City are willing to “go that extra mile” to build that way. If not, the site may likely remain a moonscape until we see that light rail, hopefully in our lifetimes.

    #448881

    Mike Hansen
    Participant

    I am new to Columbus and just came across this corner recently. The city should not let a development that includes a large surface parking lot so close to downtown and High St. The Columbus area has plenty of parking lot shopping locations no need to develop more in the city.

    #448882

    goldenidea
    Participant

    Has anyone hear any recent rumors on Milo-Grogan and the Timken site? Not naming names, I queried a Wagonbrenner guy not too long ago and (FWIW) he said if/when it’s developed, it’s likely to be built in a typical suburban big-box layout, similar to Lennox Center. He said layout would be at the discretion of the tenants.

    Meanwhile, environmental restoration is apparently progressing at the site. I have to wonder where that huge mound of soil came from. It seems a lot larger than any soil removed from excavations made on-location, but I haven’t looked closely.

    #448883

    heresthecasey
    Participant

    In my dreams, this would be the site of a new Crew Stadium.

    #448884

    DouginCMH
    Participant

    heresthecasey said:
    In my dreams, this would be the site of a new Crew Stadium.

    This.

    #448885
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
    Keymaster

    heresthecasey said:
    In my dreams, this would be the site of a new Crew Stadium.

    Would it really be that much better than the existing Crew Stadium site?

    #448886

    groundrules
    Participant

    Walker said:
    Would it really be that much better than the existing Crew Stadium site?

    if the stadium and facilities were better, yeah.

    #448887
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
    Keymaster

    I just meant the placement.

    I often hear people saying they wished it was Downtown. This is the first time I’ve heard anyone wishing it were at 5th & Cleveland.

    #448888

    DouginCMH
    Participant

    Well, the Crew only lease the land on which the current stadium sits. They also get only a small cut of the parking revenue. Can’t schedule home games during the quarterhorse congress, etc. Obviously, leaving one area that has severe limitations on what the team can do for another that has problems of its own wouldn’t help matters much. Well, except that there’d be a new stadium to lure fans in. The question (very hypothetical, of course) is what will the area immediately to the west of the Timkin site become over the next decade, and would a stadium development there hasten the development in this section of the city? I’d love to walk over to the game from, say, Seventh Son or the St. James. That’s never going to be an option in the current stadium’s location, by the way.

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