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Ward System for Columbus City Council - News & Updates

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    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
    Keymaster

    NEOBuckeye said:
    Sounds like a real winning strategy.

    Sometime you just have to trust your gut, go with your own experience, and listen to your inner common sense.

    #473248

    NEOBuckeye
    Participant

    MRipley said:
    Correct me if I’m wrong, the ward officials would represent their community with an official voting posistion on council/city issues vs the current system where a volunteer community commission can offer their opinion, but has no official vote on the subject.

    How many volunteer community commissioners actually mirror the positions of current City Council members?

    #473249

    MRipley
    Participant

    NEOBuckeye said:
    Okaaaay. So let’s gamble with the future of a city and region, totally naive and uninformed about the potential consequences.

    ??? How is increasing the number of council members and assuring that they are representative of all areas of the city “gambling with the future?”

    You must be worried that citizens will gain more influence and the self-interested, rich power brokers won’t have as much say so in the operation of the city.

    #473250

    MRipley
    Participant

    NEOBuckeye said:
    How many volunteer community commissioners actually mirror the positions of current City Council members?

    LOL. The question should be how many City Council members mirror the position of the community?

    #473251

    NEOBuckeye
    Participant

    Walker said:
    Sometime you just have to trust your gut, go with your own experience, and listen to your inner common sense.

    Meh. I’m not much of a gambler.

    I’m actually not necessarily against wards or districts per se. So far, however, I fail to see how this would result in even a very modest improvement for governance in Columbus. I haven’t seen or heard anything here to convince me otherwise.

    Correct me if I am wrong. What I hear from the pro wards/district side: An All At-Large City Council is corrupt/anti-democratic/limits choice & voice/etc.

    And Wards/Districts will somehow be a panacea for this? Have you spent any amount of time in other cities?

    How will you be certain that this wouldn’t simply result in a reshuffling of the deck with most, if not all, of the same cards (players) still in play?

    #473252

    NEOBuckeye
    Participant

    MRipley said:
    ??? How is increasing the number of council members and assuring that they are representative of all areas of the city “gambling with the future?”

    You must be worried that citizens will gain more influence and the self-interested, rich power brokers won’t have as much say so in the operation of the city.

    Oh please. I’m being a skeptic.

    But since you brought up another key item: What makes you so certain that the self-interested, rich power brokers won’t have as much say so in the operation of the city under a Ward/District system of government?

    #473253

    cheap
    Member

    Walker said:
    Sometime you just have to trust your gut, go with your own experience, and listen to your inner common sense.

    or you could just sit and watch this city become a whore for the few,while the many sit and watch their neighborhoods go to shit.

    NEOBuckeye said:
    Oh please. I’m being a skeptic.

    But since you brought up another key item: What makes you so certain that the self-interested, rich power brokers won’t have as much say so in the operation of the city under a Ward/District system of government?

    the ward rep from the west side will be an FBI informant.lol

    #473254
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
    Keymaster

    cheap said:
    or you could just sit and watch this city become a whore for the few,while the many sit and watch their neighborhoods go to shit.

    cheap said:
    i have no idea what changes can become of a ward system

    So what happens if a ward system makes things even worse for you?

    #473255

    cheap
    Member

    how can it be worse than what you have now?

    #473256

    NEOBuckeye
    Participant

    cheap said:
    or you could just sit and watch this city become a whore for the few,while the many sit and watch their neighborhoods go to shit.

    I’ve got news for you: The problem as you describe it is everywhere, from New York City and Chicago on down to the smallest of villages and townships in the boondocks. And everywhere else in between.

    A Ward/District system as presented and argued for here will not stop the whoring for the few, nor will it stop neighborhoods from going to shit.

    An area-based councilperson is not going to be some magical savior who is going to make all of these things cease and go away.

    #473257
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
    Keymaster

    cheap said:
    how can it be worse than what you have now?

    Things can always be worse.

    #473258
    rus
    rus
    Participant

    Walker said:
    Things can always be worse.

    Exactly.

    #473259

    cheap
    Member

    NEOBuckeye said:
    I’ve got news for you: The problem as you describe it is everywhere, from New York City and Chicago on down to the smallest of villages and townships in the boondocks. And everywhere else in between.

    A Ward/District system as presented and argued for here will not stop the whoring for the few, nor will it stop neighborhoods from going to shit.

    An area-based councilperson is not going to be some magical savior who is going to make all of these things cease and go away.

    you are correct.the only people that can change anything are the people themselves.

    i understand where you’re coming from.it’s a scary proposition,for sure.

    let the democratic process proceed,and we will see how the citizens of this city feel at the voting booth.

    #473260

    MRipley
    Participant

    Walker said:
    Things can always be worse.

    A great reason to maintain the status quo?

    edit: or better yet to quote you from the Storms thread;

    “Might as well continue to preach that we just settle for whatever we’ve currently got.”

    cheap said:
    you are correct.the only people that can change anything are the people themselves.

    i understand where you’re coming from.it’s a scary proposition,for sure.

    let the democratic process proceed,and we will see how the citizens of this city feel at the voting booth.

    Nicely stated. Hard to argue with that.

    #473261

    NDaEast
    Participant

    Fate of wards plan due any day
    By Lucas Sullivan
    The Columbus Dispatch
    Sunday July 1, 2012 10:18 AM

    The proposal to add ward representatives to the Columbus City Council would alter the political landscape, but its impact on the city’s future progress is unclear.

    This week, council members will learn if the Columbus Coalition for Responsive Government collected enough valid signatures to put the issue on the November ballot. The coalition said it collected about 31,000 signatures and needs at least 19,164 validated by the Franklin County Board of Elections.

    READ MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/07/01/fate-of-wards-plan-due-any-day.html

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