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  • #480196

    leftovers
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    columbusmike said:
    There really is a lack of a quality hotels (exception for the Blackwell) near campus. However, I’m guessing a hotel on High Street will not be overly affordable.

    There is definitely a need for this. I think it will be more Hilton than Pizzuti and hopefully priced accordingly.

    #480197
    Jason Powell
    Jason Powell
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    A hotel would do wanders in this area within such close proximity of campus, the medical center and the Short North. Demand should be even more pent up since OSU took over the Holiday Inn on Lane. Alot of alumni stayed there on game days. This would be a viable alternative, just a longer walk. It should be more economical, not like the Blackwell, which is in its own league (high end, full service). Just as long as it’s not stucco and 1-3 stories, I’ll be happy.

    #480198
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
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    columbusmike said:
    However, I’m guessing a hotel on High Street will not be overly affordable.

    I don’t think it would need to be affordable if it’s got a prime location and is convenient.

    There’s plenty more affordable options along Olentangy:

    The 315 Hotel Corridor is Under Construction

    #480199

    leftovers
    Member

    It doesn’t need to be affordable, but since this is developed by Campus Partners in connection with the University I hope they will keep the everyday students and their families in mind*. It is more a question of how much money they make, not if they will make money.

    I am not saying low cost either, but when I had my folks visit for a game I would have loved for them to stay closer to my small south campus apartment I shared with several other people. I think most OSU students at one point bring family in for a day or two and I really think a walkable hotel would be part of the OSU experience.

    *maybe offer a once a year discount ‘family visit’ rate coupon per student id.

    #480200

    Evelyn Van Til
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    jpizzow said:
    A hotel would do wanders in this area within such close proximity of campus, the medical center and the Short North. Demand should be even more pent up since OSU took over the Holiday Inn on Lane. Alot of alumni stayed there on game days. This would be a viable alternative, just a longer walk. It should be more economical, not like the Blackwell, which is in its own league (high end, full service). Just as long as it’s not stucco and 1-3 stories, I’ll be happy.

    yes. no stucco etc… :)

    It would be meaningful if the rumored hotel etc. would make good on actual jobs for the local community.

    #480201

    News
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    Vacant spaces in Gateway rise as Charlie Bear, Gooeyz leave within 2 weeks
    November 6, 2013
    Shelby Lum

    Fewer lights will flicker on in the South Campus Gateway this weekend, and patrons aren’t the only ones who were surprised. Since the beginning of the summer, at least three properties in the area have closed — Charlie Bear: Land of Dance, Gooeyz and Kildare’s Irish Pub, the former two of which announced their leaves via Twitter within the last two weeks — leaving owners of the spaces surprised.

    READ MORE: http://thelantern.com/2013/11/vacant-spaces-gateway-rise-charlie-bear-gooeyz-leave-within-2-weeks/

    #480202
    Jason Powell
    Jason Powell
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    This doesn’t surprise me. I know rents down there are pretty darn high and I don’t think Gateway has experienced the foot traffic that they expected from day one. I for one am shocked that Pizza Rustica has stayed open this long. I walked by there several times a week during lunch and evenings and barely saw anyone in there. The prices are a little high for the campus crowd as well. I wonder how this will affect the future “Gateway 2” plans, with respect to retail….if that plan is still in the works, that is.

    Maybe it’s time to take the SCG in a new direction. With all of that disposable income, maybe it is time for national fashion retailers to consider those larger spaces. It certainly would be a draw and the parking and foot traffic is already there.

    #480203

    Geno99
    Participant

    I was dubious of Gooeyz from the start. Grilled cheese sandwiches are only so interesting.

    #480204

    wpcc88
    Participant

    jpizzow said:
    This doesn’t surprise me. I know rents down there are pretty darn high and I don’t think Gateway has experienced the foot traffic that they expected from day one. I for one am shocked that Pizza Rustica has stayed open this long. I walked by there several times a week during lunch and evenings and barely saw anyone in there. The prices are a little high for the campus crowd as well. I wonder how this will affect the future “Gateway 2” plans, with respect to retail….if that plan is still in the works, that is.

    Maybe it’s time to take the SCG in a new direction. With all of that disposable income, maybe it is time for national fashion retailers to consider those larger spaces. It certainly would be a draw and the parking and foot traffic is already there.

    If they were smart they would put an H&M in Charlie Bear or possibly a UNIQLO. The powers that be will not allow that space to be a success as a ‘party’ spot because that’s not what the school envisioned for Gateway in the first place. They could do that and possibly beg McFaddens, which is legit national brand, to come back into their former space at reduced cost. Charlie Bear was forced out in my honest opinion and by doing so that left Gooeyz high and dry. Pizza Rustica will be soon to follow because both they and Gooeyz relied heavily on the late night customers from Charlie Bear and Tuna. RIP to the Gateway of my college prime, it certainly was fun while it lasted.

    #480205
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
    Keymaster

    The Gateway was probably “over retailed” from the start. It’s easy to point to the businesses that didn’t work as failures, but there are plenty of business who have been solid long-term tenants. The OSU student crowd is a very interesting demographic that doesn’t work for all business types.

    That being said, the non-retail side of the Gateway (housing and office space) has always been very successful. I’ve heard that the Charlie Bear space will be replaced with offices that are already fully leased out. That’s probably a better solution for now to fill with tenants that will pay their bills.

    #480206
    MichaelC
    MichaelC
    Participant

    Panera, Mad Mex, Ugly Tuna, Eddie George’s, etc., have all been there from the start and will continue to thrive. But there are only so many student dollars to go around. The SGC will need to adapt accordingly.

    OSU has filled out much of the space, and I suspect that will continue.

    The McFadden’s/Kildare’s space is prime real estate. Hopefully someone or someones with the right vision can take it on and succeed.

    #480207

    buckeyecpa
    Participant

    A bar-first place in gateway will always be tough to succeed with exceptions (tuna). The size of the space that the bars have come with high rents. It’s hard to last when you’re selling bud lights and bottom shelf vodka drinks while competing with many other bars doing the same with lower rents in the same area.

    #480208

    JB05
    Participant

    Geno99 said:
    I was dubious of Gooeyz from the start. Grilled cheese sandwiches are only so interesting.

    x2 on this. I ate there once, and didn’t find it very good. I can’t say I’m surprised about the bars either. ~18 months seems to be the average life-span of a campus-area bar. I remember Kildare’s was some other Irish named bar back in like 2010. I’m sure another slightly different successor will fill the space soon enough.

    #480209

    wpcc88
    Participant

    JB05 said:
    x2 on this. I ate there once, and didn’t find it very good. I can’t say I’m surprised about the bars either. ~18 months seems to be the average life-span of a campus-area bar. I remember Kildare’s was some other Irish named bar back in like 2010. I’m sure another slightly different successor will fill the space soon enough.

    McFaddens was there for 4 years and Charlie Bear/Gooeyz for almost 3.. All were forced out by raising the rent

    #480210

    buckeyecpa
    Participant

    wpcc88 said:
    McFaddens was there for 4 years and Charlie Bear/Gooeyz for almost 3.. All were forced out by raising the rent

    That’s false. I’m sure the rent rate had something to do with affordability but this was not the sole cause. McFaddens started to see a decline and they also closed a few other locations during that period. Charlie Bear was on lease for another two years. Those are terms they negotiated. Gooeyz just fell victim the the closures. But if you can’t last as a food place when places close it probably says something about the food being served. Raising rent complaints on commercial is usually a cover for a deeper issue like we saw with Kildare’s.

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