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  • #481290

    bayrea
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    DavidF said:
    Yeah, I mean just look at how wages are skyrocketing for the average worker, and work conditions getting so much better. It’s great to see the big corporations dig so deep into their immense profits to take care of their workers.

    I’d say that is happening….

    I highly doubt we are going to back pedle into the middle ages if unions went away.

    #481291

    Rottguinness
    Member

    Its funny how most people who say that unions are out dated and the Govt will regulate workers safety are the same people saying we need smaller Govt. Which is it?? People need to look at many services that the unions provide. First and foremost mandatory training for the members. Union members are often much more educated in their profession than their non-union counterpart. They are far safer. Dont belive me. Google job site injury union vs nonunion worker! Why you are at it, take a look at who is building our accident plagued casinos.

    Just a thought!

    #481292

    lifeontwowheels
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    bayrea said:
    I think employees should have a right to chose if they want to be part of a union or not. I too worked for UPS for 7 years during the 90’s. I was both union and management during that time. My perception of the union mentality was that of entitlement. If you show up and do the minimum you will still get raises based on seniority. It stifles the American work ethic, creativity, ingenuity and innovation. That is why I chose the management path, to be rewarded on my merits, not how long I worked there. And it’s worked out pretty well for me. If I would have stayed in the union I would be delivering packages 10 hours a day and coming home sore and worn out. Not my cup of tea. You should have the right to choose your own destiny.

    Yes you should but it has nothing to do with the unions.

    #481293

    clancy12
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    bayrea said:
    I’d say that is happening….

    I highly doubt we are going to back pedle into the middle ages if unions went away.

    Lets add some context: wage growth v productivity growth[/url]

    #481294

    Roscoe
    Member

    I don’t make it a habit to argue my positions on the Internet, but thought that some of you might want to consider the case of Honda in Marysville/Union County. Union county was recently named the top county in the State for long-term wage growth, 49th of 1000 metropolitan areas in the nation.

    The thousands of non-union jobs at Honda, affiliated industries, and even for the area in general can’t be denied. In general Honda treats its employees better than average, and people with a high-school diploma are able to earn a VERY good living safely, with excellent benefits, and lots of vacation.

    It may or may not be the exception, but it’s an excellent example of a non-union company, employees, and the community all being better off for not having a union.

    #481295

    DavidF
    Participant

    Roscoe said:
    I don’t make it a habit to argue my positions on the Internet, but thought that some of you might want to consider the case of Honda in Marysville/Union County. Union county was recently named the top county in the State for long-term wage growth, 49th of 1000 metropolitan areas in the nation.

    The thousands of non-union jobs at Honda, affiliated industries, and even for the area in general can’t be denied. In general Honda treats its employees better than average, and people with a high-school diploma are able to earn a VERY good living safely, with excellent benefits, and lots of vacation.

    It may or may not be the exception, but it’s an excellent example of a non-union company, employees, and the community all being better off for not having a union.

    Wrong. It’s not better off because it’s non-union. It’s a good work place, which makes it difficult to make the argument that they need the union. Not the same thing at all.

    #481296
    hugh59
    hugh59
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    DavidF said:
    Wrong. It’s not better off because it’s non-union. It’s a good work place, which makes it difficult to make the argument that they need the union. Not the same thing at all.

    You will probably not find a more union-hostile person than me. I believe that people should always have a right to form a union, but that membership should be voluntary.

    I have done some employment law and I have represented a few Honda employees; the place is not an employee paradise for everyone. But, their desire to keep unions out is one reason why they make an effort not to screw their employees too much.

    In my current job, I was not in the bargaining unit for the first 2 years, then a lawsuit was settled and workers in my category were added to the bargaining unit. I did not join the union so I pay 1 hour’s hourly rate per may period as my fair share contribution. I file a request every year to get a reimbursement for political expenditures (which adds up to about 40% of what I pay).

    If all states were to become “right to work” states, you would not see a return to the 19th century. Some employers would screw up and their employees would unionize when things got too bad. I think there could be a way for unions to be more relevant and meet workers needs better, but it will require a change in the approach and the goals. But that is more than I can type on this tiny virtual keyboard.

    #481297

    News
    Participant

    Billboards Reignite Debate Over ‘Right To Work’ Proposal
    February 25, 2013
    by Steve Brown
    89.7 NPR News Morning Anchor

    In late 2011, just days after Ohio voters repealed new restrictions on public employee unions, conservative activists went to work on a key part of Senate Bill 5: the banning of mandatory union dues.

    READ MORE: http://wosu.org/2012/news/2013/02/25/billboards-reignite-debate-over-right-to-work-proposal/

    #481298

    News
    Participant

    Ohio GOP Lawmakers Pushing Right-To-Work Bills
    April 30, 2013
    by Julie Carr Smyth
    Associated Press Reporter

    Less than two years after Ohio voters overwhelmingly rejected collective bargaining limits for government workers, Republicans in the Ohio House are preparing legislation that would prohibit requiring workers from joining or paying automatic dues to a union.

    READ MORE: http://wosu.org/2012/news/2013/04/30/ohio-gop-lawmakers-pushing-right-to-work-bills/

    #481299

    myliftkk
    Participant

    They never stop trying to bite that apple, do they?

    #481300

    gramarye
    Participant

    No, nor should they.

    #481301

    News
    Participant

    #481302

    ehill27
    Participant

    ehill27 said:
    Unions were created out of necessity by folks driven to the brink. Driven so far that they risked it all to form them. Without unions, I see no reason why business wouldn’t push folks to back the brink. Thus recreating the cycle to demand fairness through the power of the mass bargaining.

    It’s beginning…

    Fast Food Workers Strike for Living Wage

    #481303

    ehill27
    Participant
    #481304

    Rockmastermike
    Participant

    ehill27 said:
    It continues…

    http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2013/08/09/columbus-downtown-janitors-announce-plans-to-strike.html

    i would point out that there’s a whole thread just for that…

    Downtown Columbus Janitor Strike

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