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Record-High Pedestrian Deaths in Franklin County

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    GCrites80s
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    Jaywalking used to get you the death penalty in this town. We were notorious for our strict enforcement. The police eventually backed off because it was causing too much animosity.

    #480871
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
    Keymaster

    murfmurphy said:
    Why not just enforce the cross walks as they stand?

    Because they don’t work. I’m not sure if this is true, or an urban legend, but I recall hearing that the sidewalks through the Oval at OSU were put in wherever paths were worn through the grass by people walking. The infrastructure was built to accomodate where people were using it. Similarly, the oldest roads were previously horse paths.

    If there is an increase in pedestrian foot traffic, and the infrastructure does not accomodate regular foot traffic patterns, I think it makes a lot of sense to re-examine that system and adjust accordingly.

    murfmurphy said:
    The crosswalks are there for pedestrians to use, if you need to get across the street in the middle of the block then cross the street before your destination, not at your destination.

    That only works when the pedestrian is walking longer distances from one place to another. If someone parks a car or exits a bus, they’re often closer to a mid-block area than at an intersection.

    #480872

    Cole
    Participant

    misskitty said:
    We should add Hague Avenue to that list. The speed limit being 35 and it’s a big Jaywalking area in defense of the pedestrians there are no crosswalks between West Broad and Sullivant avenue on that stretch of Hague.
    I don’t think that much can be done downtown to discourage jaywalking people are in too much of a hurry.

    A crosswalk is more than painted lines at intersections with traffic lights. A crosswalk is “[t]hat part of a roadway at intersections ordinarily included within the real or projected prolongation of property lines and curb lines or, in the absence of curbs, the edges of the traversable roadway.”

    In other words, every intersection which does not explicitly forbid pedestrian crossing has/is a crosswalk. So at most intersections in the Short North, the pedestrian should have the right-of-way. On Hague, at every intersection between Sullivant and Broad on Hague the pedestrian should have the right-of-way.

    I like Walker’s idea of signed crosswalks where alleys once were. I mean, even Columbus Municipal Code states “[n]o pedestrian shall cross a roadway at a place other than a crosswalk except in cases where crosswalks are an unreasonable distance apart.” There’s conflicting rules within the code, but the blocks around the Statehouse are pretty long. Let’s completely legalize the jaywalking with signed crosswalks.

    BTW, I’m aware people would still jaywalk with more signed crosswalks, but it’s a nice thought that pedestrians would have more legal options for getting to where they need to go.

    #480873

    GCrites80s
    Participant

    Walker said:
    Because they don’t work. I’m not sure if this is true, or an urban legend, but I recall hearing that the sidewalks through the Oval at OSU were put in wherever paths were worn through the grass by people walking. The infrastructure was built to accomodate where people were using it.

    Those are called “cowpaths” and they’re something that college facilities offices take seriously. They don’t like them because they’re a symptom of poor traffic flow design and make the school look bad with all that dead grass and mud. A lot of times they end up installing a hard surface for people to utilize.

    #480874
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
    Keymaster

    GCrites80s said:
    They don’t like them because they’re a symptom of poor traffic flow design and make the school look bad with all that dead grass and mud.

    Similarly, jaywalking on High Street is a symptom of poor traffic flow design and make the City look bad. ;)

    #480875
    Snarf
    Snarf
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    GCrites80s said:
    Those are called “cowpaths” and they’re something that college facilities offices take seriously. They don’t like them because they’re a symptom of poor traffic flow design and make the school look bad with all that dead grass and mud. A lot of times they end up installing a hard surface for people to utilize.

    My mailman leaves a cowpath in my front yard into the neighbors and then around the corner. I try not to be bothered by it because I think it would suck to be a mailman.

    #480876

    johnwirtz
    Participant

    GCrites80s said:
    Those are called “cowpaths” and they’re something that college facilities offices take seriously. They don’t like them because they’re a symptom of poor traffic flow design and make the school look bad with all that dead grass and mud. A lot of times they end up installing a hard surface for people to utilize.

    I call them pedestrian desire lines.

    #480877

    GCrites80s
    Participant

    The other thing that can happen is that a new building is built on campus and all of a sudden pedestrians start making new shortcuts.

    Sounds like if people started wearing loud ’80s and early ’90s colors such as neon pink and chartreuse that pedestrian safety would increase. Grungers and goths turned out to be even more self-destructive than we thought.

    #480878

    Alex Silbajoris
    Participant

    Problem solved: LED shoes

    #480879

    News
    Participant

    Hrm… a 2 minute cycle to cross High Street at Vine during rush hour? That sounds like a long time for pedestrians to have to wait at what is a pretty high-traffic pedestrian area:

    http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/02/14/countdown-signal-may-slow-dash-across-high-street.html

    #480880
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
    Keymaster

    Hrm… a 2 minute cycle to cross High Street at Vine during rush hour? That sounds like a long time for pedestrians to have to wait at what is a pretty high-traffic pedestrian area:

    http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/02/14/countdown-signal-may-slow-dash-across-high-street.html

    #480881

    cbus11
    Member
    #480882

    GCrites80s
    Participant

    Seems like every light on Vine is rage-inducing in some way.

    #480883

    misskitty
    Participant

    Walker said:
    Hrm… a 2 minute cycle to cross High Street at Vine during rush hour? That sounds like a long time for pedestrians to have to wait at what is a pretty high-traffic pedestrian area:

    http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/02/14/countdown-signal-may-slow-dash-across-high-street.html

    Having to wait 2 minuets is too long really?

    #480884
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
    Keymaster

    misskitty said:
    Having to wait 2 minuets is too long really?

    For some people, yes. For some intersections, no.

    Personally, I think 120 seconds sounds like a long wait to cross at that specific intersection.

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