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Parking Meters on High Street Downtown

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    hugh59
    hugh59
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    Walker said:
    So the problem isn’t parking meters at all then. ;)

    Not entirely. But, I have this thing about being honest. You can’t understand a problem unless you approach it honestly.

    #466746
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
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    rus said:
    http://theoatmeal.com/comics/restaurant_website

    Don’t forget about the auto-playing music embedded into the restaurant website. ;)

    #466747
    rus
    rus
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    Walker said:
    Don’t forget about the auto-playing music embedded into the restaurant website. ;)

    Preferably something in the ever classy 8bit.

    #466748

    derwentez
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    are there not meters that work like parking garages? get a ticket when you park, insert said ticket when you leave. no running out of time, no putting too much money in. is this done anywhere? i don’t have a car so i haven’t looked at a meter in awhile.

    #466749
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
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    derwentez said:
    are there not meters that work like parking garages? get a ticket when you park, insert said ticket when you leave. no running out of time, no putting too much money in. is this done anywhere? i don’t have a car so i haven’t looked at a meter in awhile.

    I’ve never heard of parking meters anywhere that work like that. Parking Garages can do that because you have to pay to be let out. There would be nothing preventing someone from just driving off at a parking meter without paying if you had to pay afterward rather than before hand.

    #466750

    derwentez
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    Walker said: I’ve never heard of parking meters anywhere that work like that. Parking Garages can do that because you have to pay to be let out. There would be nothing preventing someone from just driving off at a parking meter without paying if you had to pay afterward rather than before hand.

    there could be a sensor in the parking space that stops the time when the car leaves. this would have to be a put your credit card in before type of deal. it’s not perfect but it is another option. personally i don’t like meters at all. free parking attracts people. who cares if people can’t find a spot? wouldn’t that be a good thing?

    #466751
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
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    derwentez said:
    there could be a sensor in the parking space that stops the time when the car leaves. this would have to be a put your credit card in before type of deal. it’s not perfect but it is another option. personally i don’t like meters at all. free parking attracts people. who cares if people can’t find a spot? wouldn’t that be a good thing?

    http://www.amazon.com/High-Cost-Free-Parking-Updated/dp/193236496X

    #466752
    rus
    rus
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    derwentez said:who cares if people can’t find a spot? wouldn’t that be a good thing?

    Think about that for a sec.

    Based on the numbers here, about %4.37 percent of all people in central ohio ( as defined as the zip codes included in those figures ) use public transit ( numbers appear to be based on 2010 census ).

    Add perhaps another %2 for those who bike.

    So, if there’s no parking available a business is writing off about %93 of the population.

    Even in the highest transit utilization zip code ( 43203 ) a business without parking is writing off about %80 of the population.

    Perhaps you mean making driving so arduous that people will change their behavior to utilize public transit / biking more?

    If so, then those destinations must have some appeal to the estimated %93 high enough to get them to change their behavior towards transit instead of patronizing existing businesses that are less hostile to driving.

    #466753

    ehill27
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    ^ Since people are using meters, it doesn’t seem that those numbers are accurate.

    Bottom line is that this isn’t a new concept. Cities all over the world charge for parking, particularly/typically where parking is a premium. It’s not some conspiracy. It’s actually more in line with supply and demand economics.

    #466754
    rus
    rus
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    ehill27 said:
    ^ Since people are using meters, it doesn’t seem that those numbers are accurate.

    Bottom line is that this isn’t a new concept. Cities all over the world charge for parking, particularly/typically where parking is a premium. It’s not some conspiracy. It’s actually more in line with supply and demand economics.

    To reiterate: I said I can understand someone getting upset by seeing a street full of parked cars with tickets on them. No, not a conspiracy, although I can see someone taking that as a personal affront.

    Also, what’s off about those numbers? If anything, it supports the idea that most people will use meters in downtown areas. Most people drive, so there’s not a lot of choice if they’re going to patronize those areas.

    Or, if you’re saying the percentage of transit use is off, do you have a better source?

    I read “Can’t find a spot” as “no parking available at all, to include a lack of metered parking, parking garages, and surface lots.

    #466755

    derwentez
    Member

    rus said: … Think about that for a sec. Based on the numbers here, about %4.37 percent of all people in central ohio ( as defined as the zip codes included in those figures ) use public transit ( numbers appear to be based on 2010 census ). Add perhaps another %2 for those who bike. So, if there’s no parking available a business is writing off about %93 of the population. Even in the highest transit utilization zip code ( 43203 ) a business without parking is writing off about %80 of the population. Perhaps you mean making driving so arduous that people will change their behavior to utilize public transit / biking more? If so, then those destinations must have some appeal to the estimated %93 high enough to get them to change their behavior towards transit instead of patronizing existing businesses that are less hostile to driving.

    ? there wouldn’t be parking because those 93% are taking up the free spaces to visit businesses. i’m not completely against parking meters, as ehill states , it’s demand and supply. but if we have too many open spaces, either the businesses there don’t constitute paying for parking or the price is too high. free parking is also conducive to longer stays/shops/eats. if i end up .5 miles from my car and have to walk back to put more money in the meter, i’ll probably just leave. most of easton’s parking is free. though it’s not exactly the same situation, their businesses certainly aren’t hurting because of it.

    #466756
    rus
    rus
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    derwentez said:
    if i end up .5 miles from my car and have to walk back to put more money in the meter, i’ll probably just leave.

    That’s what I meant earlier about parking being a disincentive for people to visit an area.

    Some of that is likely familiarity with an area, which can be mitigated, but you add a dimension to that; the effort it takes to avoid a ticket that doesn’t exist in other areas.

    #466757

    GCrites80s
    Participant

    If you make street parking free downtown workers would take all the spaces leaving no parking spaces at all.

    #466758

    johnwirtz
    Participant

    derwentez said:
    are there not meters that work like parking garages? get a ticket when you park, insert said ticket when you leave. no running out of time, no putting too much money in. is this done anywhere? i don’t have a car so i haven’t looked at a meter in awhile.

    That would defeat the purpose of the meters, which is to encourage parking turnover.

    #466759

    NerosNeptune
    Participant

    I don’t see why that would defeat the purpose. The spot would still cost the same amount per unit time, and overall time limits could still be enforced. Giving a ticket and more precise billing wouldn’t allow people to take up spots all day.

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