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Presidential Debate - Oct 22, 2012

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    MichaelC
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    Schoolyard?

    Isn’t it elementary to know that the number of ships doesn’t matter, but the strategy behind them?

    #516962

    geoyui
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    James said:
    When two dogs meet, the dominant one always ignores the noise and threat of the other.

    Isn’t this what usually happens when dogs meet?

    #516963
    Coremodels
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    James said:
    When two dogs meet, the dominant one always ignores the noise and threat of the other. President Obama did not act like the dominant dog last night – he acted like he was trying to save himself. I personally thought alot of his ‘zingers’ were a bit schoolyard.

    I’m constantly astonished that while basically the entire rest of the country can acknowledge a win by Obama in a debate, hardcore conservatives still can’t.

    Ari Fleischer sat on TV last night admitting he won ffs.

    #516964
    Snarf
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    Coremodels said:
    I’m constantly astonished that while basically the entire rest of the country can acknowledge a win by Obama in a debate, hardcore conservatives still can’t.

    Ari Fleischer sat on TV last night admitting he won ffs.

    Astonishment at stupidity is very bi-partisan. ;)

    #516965

    James
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    Coremodels said:
    I’m constantly astonished that while basically the entire rest of the country can acknowledge a win by Obama in a debate, hardcore conservatives still can’t.

    Ari Fleischer sat on TV last night admitting he won ffs.

    I think Obama won the debate. He scored debate points, but I don’t think he scored election points. His responses show he’s on the defensive.

    #516966
    Coremodels
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    Snarf said:
    Astonishment at stupidity is very bi-partisan. ;)

    heh :D

    I actually agree, I don’t think the debate will move that many votes. What kills me, as an Obama supporter, is the “what if” had he actually shown up to the first debate and Romney not gotten that significant bump.

    #516967
    Snarf
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    Coremodels said:
    heh :D

    I actually agree, I don’t think the debate will move that many votes. What kills me, as an Obama supporter, is the “what if” had he actually shown up to the first debate and Romney not gotten that significant bump.

    The “what-if’s” are strong with the messiah.

    #516968
    rus
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    MichaelC said:
    Schoolyard?

    Isn’t it elementary to know that the number of ships doesn’t matter, but the strategy behind them?

    The number of ships is part of the strategy.

    This made the rounds a while back:
    http://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2011-02/strategic-choices-tipping-point

    #516969

    fortuna
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    Coremodels said:
    I’m constantly astonished that while basically the entire rest of the country can acknowledge a win by Obama in a debate, hardcore conservatives still can’t.

    Ari Fleischer sat on TV last night admitting he won ffs.

    I’m tired of hearing about who “won”. All it means is they spit better game at a few questions. What people need to take away is whose policy most matches with their own, not who won or lost.

    #516970

    melikecheese
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    Mitt is really good at math when he needs to count nukes or how many years closer to a nuke someone is.

    Who knows what will happen, I mean the country re-elected Bush Jr and jobs were dropping hard and fast, but now those same exact people refuse to vote for Obama because of “slow growth”. Since then I have pretty much given up on the “right” person getting elected.

    I see a long term solution guy currently sitting as President, and I see another short term, short sighted guy trying to get back in. Sadly I think humans in general have a hard time seeing long term plans out, too impatient, think things can change in 3 days.

    #516971

    James
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    MichaelC said:
    Schoolyard?

    Isn’t it elementary to know that the number of ships doesn’t matter, but the strategy behind them?

    Yup. And depending on how you make the point, you can come off as knowledgable, temperate and mature. Or knowledgable and a little bit desperate to score a point on your opponent. I think the president achieved the latter with his answer.

    #516972

    fortuna
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    James said:
    Yup. And depending on how you make the point, you can come off as knowledgable, temperate and mature. Or knowledgable and a little bit desperate to score a point on your opponent. I think the president achieved the latter with his answer.

    Does it matter who was trying harder to “score a point”?
    You are voting in a set of values and policies. I can’t imagine looking at the potus in three years and thinking “man, I sure am glad this guy seemes to not be trying too hard”.

    #516973

    James
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    fortuna said:
    Does it matter who was trying harder to “score a point”?
    You are voting in a set of values and policies. I can’t imagine looking at the potus in three years and thinking “man, I sure am glad this guy seemes to not be trying too hard”.

    Values voting is what got us GW.

    #516974
    MichaelC
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    rus said:
    The number of ships is part of the strategy.

    This made the rounds a while back:
    http://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2011-02/strategic-choices-tipping-point

    As you know, that’s not at all the argument that Romney was making. Romney’s argument is, “We have fewer ships, therefore we are weaker.”

    It’s not a numbers game alone. That’s what Romney framed it as being. That’s elementary.

    #516975

    Alex Silbajoris
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    MichaelC said:
    As you know, that’s not at all the argument that Romney was making. Romney’s argument is, “We have fewer ships, therefore we are weaker.”

    Sadly, the Army also lacks the mules it used to have. As you can see, we no longer receive wise council regarding the efficient allocation of military resources.

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