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  • #317007
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
    Keymaster

    cc wrote >>
    I think if Walker is hoping to use this to get Palin to pay for an ad for her book on CU, he is gonna be disappointed.

    Hahaha! Are they even advertising that? I imagine they wouldn’t have to. The media notices are probably enough to sell those events out. ;)

    #317008

    Kahiki
    Member

    somertimeoh wrote >>

    chaptal wrote >>

    Rockmastermike wrote >>
    also, can I just say right now that I would really like to see this thread NOT become a big hairy argument on who is right and who is wrong?
    That might screw up the poll by biasing. Please let people state their opinions freely without trying to shoot them down even if you hate what they say.

    How many posts back did your idea end?

    Until detesting common sense came along, this was one of the most enlightening threads for me to date. I’ve learned a lot about where people are coming from and how just simple nuances in ideology can create hateful word wars. It’s fascinating. So kudos to everyone except THAT person who ruined it.

    #317009

    Kahiki
    Member

    Big picture is big. Sorry about that.

    #317010

    joev
    Participant

    rus wrote >>

    joev wrote >>
    That is to say, I am a socialist who is pro-life in all its meanings.

    joev wrote >> My slogan is more like: “Live free or why don’t you just let me help you with that.”

    Pro-life in all its meanings… except for my enemies who must die.
    Not really knocking you, but it struck me as funny.

    Yeah, that’s not what I meant by that. People who want to live free can do so. And if they need help, the government should be there for them. I guess that means the government needs to get money from those living free, which I don’t think impinges on their freedom, but your mileage may vary. Does sound funny without context, though!

    Maybe this would be better: Live a little bit less free so other people can live, too.

    #317011
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
    Keymaster

    spookygoddess78 wrote >>
    You may want to think about adding a ‘none of the above’ or ‘don’t know/doesn’t apply’ type option if you want to get more accurate data.

    I figure if people don’t care, then they’re not voting at all in this poll. ;) Problem solved!

    #317012

    ZHC
    Member

    Is independent really equivalent to moderate and moderate only?

    There are plenty of parties not listed that are pretty radical in one fashion or another that might have people clicking that independent box….

    #317013

    ZHC
    Member

    Is independent really equivalent to moderate and moderate only?

    There are plenty of parties not listed that are pretty radical in one fashion or another that might have people clicking that independent box….

    #317014

    HeySquare
    Participant

    Hael wrote >>
    IMO, an example of common sense: Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

    There is an underlying assumption that the man 1) lives near a viable body of water 2) owns the fishing gear that he is taught to fish with and 3) knows how to cook or utilize what he has caught.

    If you teach one man how to catch the fish, one man how to construct and repair the fishing gear, one man how to transport the fish inland, and one man how to cook the fish, it becomes a going prospect. And there are four jobs, as opposed to a crapton of fishermen without boats or nets or edible fish.

    I suppose that’s why I’m a moderate, with leftist tendencies. We either need as a society to say, no we’re not going to let people starve. And then provide the funds to fully realize that goal. Rather than saying that we’re doing everything we can to teach people how to fish, while we’re really sending them out into the raging river unprepared, without funding for equipment or abiltity to capitalize on the fish they do catch, and then blame the fault of the failure on the government that taught people how to fish in the first place.

    #317015

    Walker wrote >>

    spookygoddess78 wrote >>
    You may want to think about adding a ‘none of the above’ or ‘don’t know/doesn’t apply’ type option if you want to get more accurate data.

    I figure if people don’t care, then they’re not voting at all in this poll. ;) Problem solved!

    I guess I’m more speaking to what ZHC is saying. There are likely people that are voting themselves into a category that doesn’t accurately reflect their political association because the choices exclude a neutral choice and therefore that data can be heavily skewed and/or meaningless. Don’t know/doesn’t apply/none of the above is not the same as ‘doesn’t care’.

    #317016

    Also, not trying to be nit picky here – just trying to be helpful. It’s important to understand the construction of a good survey question if you want to be able to deduce anything at all from it.

    #317017
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
    Keymaster

    spookygoddess78 wrote >>
    …data can be heavily skewed and/or meaningless.

    Well, this was meant to be more fun than scientific. ;)

    But I went ahead and retroactively added a “None of the Above” column, FWIW.

    #317018

    I’m liberal, and at the moment that generally means I’m voting for Democrats. However, I’m pro-life, so I’m not going to join the Democratic Party or identify myself as a supporter of it.

    My values are pretty much as kitoba listed, with the addition of being pro-gun.

    A large percentage of people who vote Republican identify themselves as Independent. In 2004, 24% of the registered voters in the US were registered as Independent, 32% Republicans and 42% were Dems. The moral of the story is that a lot Republicans don’t like to be called Republicans. But they are.

    #317019

    Lakee911
    Participant

    Any resources out there to help one decide the appropriate party? I fall between the typical two parties. I need some sort of quiz on my beliefs and an automated system I guess…

    #317020
    rus
    rus
    Participant

    joev wrote >>

    rus wrote >>

    joev wrote >>
    That is to say, I am a socialist who is pro-life in all its meanings.

    joev wrote >> My slogan is more like: “Live free or why don’t you just let me help you with that.”

    Pro-life in all its meanings… except for my enemies who must die.
    Not really knocking you, but it struck me as funny.

    Yeah, that’s not what I meant by that. People who want to live free can do so. And if they need help, the government should be there for them. I guess that means the government needs to get money from those living free, which I don’t think impinges on their freedom, but your mileage may vary. Does sound funny without context, though!
    Maybe this would be better: Live a little bit less free so other people can live, too.

    Random thoughts while beating an oracle instance back into submission…

    That was how I read it. Less funny, but makes more sense your way.

    I guess what you allude to is a defining difference: Do “you” ( note: that’s a “royal you” not anyone in particular ) feel that paying for other people via taxation is an impingement on your freedom? If so, is it worth it? Are there better ways than centralized government?

    #317021

    revolutionist
    Participant

    Well, as far as I have seen no one has said they are a Communist. I’ll go ahead…

    I’m more or less a Commie, I’m the one vote for “none of the above”. By communist I mean it in the Marxist sense; “the withering away of the State”. “Workers of the World uniting”, etc. That said, I think CPUSA and the Revolutionary Communist Party, etc. are all pathetic, and I am not a member of any party.

    I like Althuser, Jean Paul “the anti-communist is a dog” Sartre, Negri, Ranciere, Badiou, etc. so I guess I am more of a Franco-Italian Commie, Autonomist, Anarchist, Anti-Fascist, whatever. I despise moderation, neutrality, conservatism, etc, in politics, work, life, art, thought and love.

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