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The Sale/Purchase of Nationwide Arena

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  • #340097

    News
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    Oh, the irony
    Posted on September 15, 2011
    by Steph Greegor

    The fact that Penn National Gaming company’s Hollywood Casino revenues are the primary financial dollars in the official proposal to save the Columbus Blue Jackets is an ironic twist of fate that’s not lost on anyone.

    “The irony of using casino revenue for #CBJ & anything Nationwide related makes my brainz melt,” tweeted Lori Crabtree (@Twixlen) on Twitter during the press conference yesterday at the Greater Columbus Convention Center, during which a proposal to sell Nationwide Arena, and save the Blue Jackets in the process, was released.

    READ MORE: http://www.theotherpaper.com/news/article_bcd4a9be-dfb7-11e0-9c44-001cc4c002e0.html

    #340098

    Jefe
    Participant

    maryrv said:
    If you don’t like hockey, don’t go; I don’t go to OSU or Crew games, but I do not doubt the influences that having those teams have on people’s and businesses’ lives.

    People didn’t go. Yet now they’re paying for it anyway. I, for one, find it unfair that needy folks will now pay the price (in forgone services) for a bourgie hobby–although admittedly one that I like, too. Fans should pay for sports. People who need city services should not.

    Especially when the inflated economic justification was conjured up by an academic who was paid $45,000 by the Convention Authority to do so.

    #340099

    Twixlen
    Participant

    News said:
    Oh, the irony
    Posted on September 15, 2011
    by Steph Greegor

    The fact that Penn National Gaming company’s Hollywood Casino revenues are the primary financial dollars in the official proposal to save the Columbus Blue Jackets is an ironic twist of fate that’s not lost on anyone.

    “The irony of using casino revenue for #CBJ & anything Nationwide related makes my brainz melt,” tweeted Lori Crabtree (@Twixlen) on Twitter during the press conference yesterday at the Greater Columbus Convention Center, during which a proposal to sell Nationwide Arena, and save the Blue Jackets in the process, was released.

    READ MORE: http://www.theotherpaper.com/news/article_bcd4a9be-dfb7-11e0-9c44-001cc4c002e0.html

    Heh.

    #340100
    Coremodels
    Coremodels
    Participant

    LOL…i meant to point that out earlier Twix, you’re a celebrity ;0

    #340101

    Twixlen
    Participant

    Coremodels said:
    LOL…i meant to point that out earlier Twix, you’re a celebrity ;0

    I fear for us all.

    #340102

    News
    Participant

    What economy does arena boost?
    By Doug Caruso
    The Columbus Dispatch
    Monday September 26, 2011 4:03 AM

    A public purchase of Nationwide Arena to keep the Blue Jackets in town isn’t about hockey, its champions say, it’s about economic development.

    But whether subsidizing sports with public money provides overall gains in jobs and economic development is subject to a debate that breaks down into two basic camps.

    READ MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2011/09/26/whateconomydoesarenaboost.html

    #340103

    cheap
    Member

    is stand up columbus planning a petition drive to put this to a vote?

    #340104

    Brant
    Participant

    “A lot of the people who have done cost-benefit analysis don’t find that the benefits exceed the costs,” [Greenbaum] said. “But you could do that with a lot of the things the government spends money on, parks or other things that make a city a nice place to live. They’re difficult to quantify in terms of costs and benefits.”

    Exactly. Just tell us straight-up that the government is buying the Arena because having an NHL team is awesome and a vibrant Arena District makes Columbus a nicer place to live. Tell us that it’s been great for economic development in a small quadrant of downtown that once faced serious blight, but acknowledge that it hasn’t really done much to grow the economy on a metro scale. Finally, apologize for the sorry state of the Brewery District, which used to be cool and vibrant until the Arena was built and shifted all that activity to a different part of downtown.

    If city leaders are so fiscally conservative that they need to justify the purchase of the Arena with promises that it will “create” jobs, boost the metro economy, and put an XBox in everyone’s Christmas stocking, then they shouldn’t even consider purchasing the Arena in the first place because there is ZERO credible research to support those kinds of claims.

    #340105

    Pickerington_Kyle
    Participant

    what if they built a soccer stadium in the brewery district?

    #340106

    cheap
    Member

    how many 400 sq ft condos would fit in that arena?

    #340107
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
    Keymaster

    cheap said:
    how many 400 sq ft condos would fit in that arena?

    A whole bunch if you don’t care about windows.

    #340108

    cc
    Member

    “We have enough parks,” Coleman said.

    I think the mayor is right. I also feel that we have been swindled a bit, like Professor Harold Hill came to town to sell us band instruments to prop up his investments. I can’t help but wonder if the Continent had invested in a sports franchise 15 years ago, if maybe then we would be supporting something on Bush Blvd and there would be more than dollar theaters and cheap apartments there today. I think Nationwide has a few smart cookies and we are playing the house’s game. The house always wins. NRI will walk away with the money while we pay for their realestate amenities.

    I am not very musical, but I can imagine Professor Hill extolling the virtues of hockey…

    #340109

    leftovers
    Member

    Was there ever much thought of the Blue Jackets playing at the Schottenstein Center? It seems that Nationwide Arena is pretty redundant to the Schott and I think it was still sparkly new when they must have been designing Nationwide. Was the arena built just as some kind of real estate anchor even though it mirrored existing facilites two miles away?

    #340110

    Jefe
    Participant

    $42.5m could do sooo much more to generate development. Even in the AD. I love hockey and the Blue Jackets, but it’s up to us fans to keep them here–not the city or the county. NHL hockey isn’t a public good. By spending on hockey, there are dozens of more beneficial public projects we’re foregoing.

    (Also, a personal “thank you” Doug Caruso at the Dispatch.)

    #340111

    cheap
    Member

    i think this decision could cost Coleman his job.

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