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  • #423354

    Cardiff
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    I’m sure once I get a broken one my shiny happy attitude about the meters will change, but I like that they let you know when you have paid enough to take you to the end of the enforced time, usually 10pm. I used to constantly overpay without realizing, as the old meters let you pay even when you don’t need to.

    #423355
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
    Keymaster

    rustbelt wrote >>
    Am I right in guessing the burden of proof the meter was actually broken is on the driver, not the city?

    Sounds like it.

    rustbelt wrote >>
    I can’t see them merely taking the driver’s word for it.

    I’ve gotten two tickets while parked at broken meters in the past, called to dispute and had both of them dropped without much additional hassle.

    #423356

    Andrew Hall
    Member

    Walker wrote >>

    Snarf wrote >>
    Way to go, City of Columbus!

    The whole “City” isn’t responsible for parking meters. It’s the Department of Public Service – Parking Violations Bureau:
    http://publicservice.columbus.gov/parking/

    You really are angling to run for public office, aren’t you?

    That is a bullshit, cop-out response and you are smart enough to know it. When someone has a bad experience getting a ticket for no reason, I am sure they decide to never visit the ‘Department of Public Service – Parking Violations Bureau’ again and no other places are affected.

    Leadership and *accountability* starts at the top and the top is what needs their collective balls (and eggs) roasted to start doing something. The excuse-making and apolegetics you’ve grown so fond of don’t cut it.

    A.

    #423357

    SusanB
    Participant

    I would love it if Walker would run for a City Council seat. He has my vote for sure.

    #423358

    Andrew Hall
    Member

    SusanB wrote >>
    I would love it if Walker would run for a City Council seat. He has my vote for sure.

    Mine as well. Unless he becomes like all the rest.

    A.

    #423359

    Bear
    Participant

    Andrew Hall wrote >>
    That is a bullshit, cop-out response and you are smart enough to know it. When someone has a bad experience getting a ticket for no reason, I am sure they decide to never visit the ‘Department of Public Service – Parking Violations Bureau’ again and no other places are affected.
    Leadership and *accountability* starts at the top and the top is what needs their collective balls (and eggs) roasted to start doing something. The excuse-making and apolegetics you’ve grown so fond of don’t cut it.
    A.

    Are we talking about the meters not accepting coins/cards today and the PVB calling meter readers to tell them not to issue tickets? Or about the “already hit print” / daily occurrences on Gay St.? It sounds like there are two separate issues, today’s maybe stemming from a technical glitch of some sort. I tried working a meter myself this morning, and it was dead as a doornail. The meter readers who came by didn’t write a ticket, but instead reset it to holiday mode.

    #423360

    gramarye
    Participant

    rustbelt wrote >>
    I’ve spoken to Public Service and our policy is that broken meters are free meters. So if someone received a ticket it was either for another infraction or it was in error in which case the person would be entitled to a refund.
    Am I right in guessing the burden of proof the meter was actually broken is on the driver, not the city?
    I can’t see them merely taking the driver’s word for it.

    Actually, it happens more often than you might think in micro-dollar cases. After all, it’s a civil matter, so the standard of proof is “preponderance of the evidence,” not “beyond a reasonable doubt.” In other words, you basically just need more/better evidence than the other guy’s got. Your word is often good enough for that–particularly if it’s uncontroverted, i.e., if no one else is going on the record saying that the meter *was* working and/or the time *had* expired.

    #423361

    Antonio
    Member

    I don’t think you get it, I would have to take time off from my job, drive down, go through a hearing, present the evidence in hopes of having the ticket dismissed.

    My cost 300 bucks hassle versus paying the scam fine.

    gramarye wrote >>

    rustbelt wrote >>
    I’ve spoken to Public Service and our policy is that broken meters are free meters. So if someone received a ticket it was either for another infraction or it was in error in which case the person would be entitled to a refund.
    Am I right in guessing the burden of proof the meter was actually broken is on the driver, not the city?
    I can’t see them merely taking the driver’s word for it.

    Actually, it happens more often than you might think in micro-dollar cases. After all, it’s a civil matter, so the standard of proof is “preponderance of the evidence,” not “beyond a reasonable doubt.” In other words, you basically just need more/better evidence than the other guy’s got. Your word is often good enough for that–particularly if it’s uncontroverted, i.e., if no one else is going on the record saying that the meter *was* working and/or the time *had* expired.

    #423362

    anillo
    Participant

    Well, do you have to drive downtown or not? I’ve never disputed tickets myself, but from what Walker mentioned a few posts ago, it sounds like he just had to call the city and they voided the ticket over the phone.

    #423363

    cc
    Member

    Probably Walker is on the city’s ‘don’t mess with list’. ;)

    #423364
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
    Keymaster

    Andrew Hall wrote >>
    Stuff.

    Sheesh. Having a bad day?

    I was simply pointing out to Snarf the Dept in charge of parking issues.

    Anything else you got out of that, you read in to it. Get off my back with your problems, and keep your words out of my mouth. Or at the very least, you could be a friend and send me an email if you have any concerns about what you think I’m thinking. You’re always way too quick to scream accusations and sling mud publicly and it gets pretty tiring, man. Perhaps you should be the one running for public office.

    Have a good weekend.

    #423365
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
    Keymaster

    anillo wrote >>
    Well, do you have to drive downtown or not? I’ve never disputed tickets myself, but from what Walker mentioned a few posts ago, it sounds like he just had to call the city and they voided the ticket over the phone.

    Last time it happened I called after hours and left a VM. A few days later they sent a mailed letter saying the ticket was dropped. Sort of an antiquated way to do it, but yeah… there ya go.

    #423366
    Porky
    Porky
    Participant

    lizless wrote >>
    They do a fabulous job keeping people away from downtown.

    Yes. Yes the do. Sad but true.

    #423367

    Paul
    Participant

    Andrew Hall wrote >>

    Walker wrote >>

    Snarf wrote >>
    Way to go, City of Columbus!

    The whole “City” isn’t responsible for parking meters. It’s the Department of Public Service – Parking Violations Bureau:
    http://publicservice.columbus.gov/parking/

    You really are angling to run for public office, aren’t you?
    That is a bullshit, cop-out response and you are smart enough to know it. When someone has a bad experience getting a ticket for no reason, I am sure they decide to never visit the ‘Department of Public Service – Parking Violations Bureau’ again and no other places are affected.
    Leadership and *accountability* starts at the top and the top is what needs their collective balls (and eggs) roasted to start doing something. The excuse-making and apolegetics you’ve grown so fond of don’t cut it.
    A.

    Walker wrote >>

    Andrew Hall wrote >>
    Stuff.

    Sheesh. Having a bad day?
    I was simply pointing out to Snarf the Dept in charge of parking issues.
    Anything else you got out of that, you read in to it. Get off my back with your problems, and keep your words out of my mouth. Or at the very least, you could be a friend and send me an email if you have any concerns about what you think I’m thinking. You’re always way too quick to scream accusations and sling mud publicly and it gets pretty tiring, man. Perhaps you should be the one running for public office.
    Have a good weekend.

    I hate to gang up on you here, Walker, but since you really came back on Andrew for this I have to chime in and agree with him.

    You are the one who nitpicked and chose to play a ridiculous game of semantics in the first place. You really think it’s relevant to draw such a distinction between the “City of Columbus” and one of the individual departments of the city of Columbus?? That would be like if I punched someone in the face and they said, “Jeeze, Paul, what the heck did you do that for?” And you chime in and say, “Hurr Durr, well, erhmm, technically it was Paul’s hand that punched you.” The point is yes it’s my hand, but it’s part of my body and I control it.

    #423368

    groundrules
    Participant

    Well paul, i really enjoyed your readers digest summation of this thread. But since we’re taking sides, I’m tag-teaming with walker. Our team has mexican wrestling masks and the ability to moderate IP addresses. Whatchoo got??

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