Open Container Entertainment Districts
- July 29, 2013 2:37 am at 2:37 am #541035
I think this is a bad idea. I’m not a fan of allowing folks to roam the neighborhood drinking.
+3July 29, 2013 2:37 am at 2:37 am #541036
What about the fact that most of the rest of the world is open container? Or that much of the U.S. was open container until the 50s and 60s? Texas was open container until what, the ’90s? I’m not necessarily advocating it, but why can they handle it and we can’t? Are we too nuts, angry and aggressive?July 29, 2013 2:45 am at 2:45 am #541037
I really can’t address GCrites80s question so I won’t.
Personally I have seen a lot of binge drinking going on in the SN lately and it seems to be getting worse. Maybe people just see it as a way to let loose, but they aren’t being responsible and unfortunately too many people are looking the other way. Those drinkers tend to do stupid things which put themselves and other people & property at risk. Maybe open container would be great for those profiting off of alcohol sales, but in general I see it as having far more negatives than positives in the quality of life found in those areas.July 29, 2013 2:56 am at 2:56 am #541038July 29, 2013 3:00 am at 3:00 am #541039
What about the fact that most of the rest of the world is open container? Or that much of the U.S. was open container until the 50s and 60s? Texas was open container until what, the ’90s? I’m not necessarily advocating it, but why can they handle it and we can’t? Are we too nuts, angry and aggressive?
I can’t speak for all of Europe but drinking is also a big problem across the pond. I have seen a lot of issues when I stayed in Ireland, the UK, and visited Eastern Europe and Russia where open container is the norm. As SusanK mentions above, binge drinking may be a problem in the SN, but it is also a big problem in the UK. It is a hot political topic which some are trying to curb by increasing the drinking age, increasing alcohol cost, establishing state stores and changing pub hours. Basically they are looking somewhat at the US for answers.
We all have visions of sipping champagne on the Champs-Élysées but the broader reality is that unsupervised alcohol consumption has many darker connotations.July 29, 2013 4:07 am at 4:07 am #541040
Beale Street in Memphis has open container and it is great experience. I especially like walking up to a bar window and ordering a draught without going inside. I don’t remember if businesses allow outside beer to be brought in, but nonetheless it adds to the festive atmosphere.July 29, 2013 4:10 am at 4:10 am #541041
nmJuly 29, 2013 4:13 am at 4:13 am #541042
Since they cut the Ash trees down the neighborhood is looking bleaker, imho.
I agree. I’ll edit my comments and save them for another thread, but I will say that I’m glad to be leaving Grandview ave!July 29, 2013 4:06 pm at 4:06 pm #541043
I don’t think you *need* it either. But it could make Gallery Hop more enjoyable for some people if you could hop from exhibition to exhibition with a glass of wine in hand.
If the limit of the entertainment district is a 1/2 mile square area I don’t think it would work well for gallery hop. The Gallery Hop area (Cap to 5th ave) is about a mile in length. I think it would be more confusing to say to people, this half of the area you can drink in the street and once you cross a line half way you can’t drink in the street anymore.July 29, 2013 4:52 pm at 4:52 pm #541044
If you live anywhere near an Entertainment District (officially or unofficially designated as such), and don’t want to live near an Entertainment District, then you shouldn’t live near an Entertainment District. Because if you do live near one, you’re likely to get the good aspects (you live close to fun places!) along with the bad aspects (you live close to fun places!).
This is one of the most astoundingly poorly reasoned statements I’ve ever heard come from you, Walker.
Every part of town has its unique characteristics. Are you really suggesting that just because one neighborhood might have more of an entertainment focus that it should therefore be open to anything that could fall under the ‘entertainment’ category?
I hope you’ve already realized that that’s absurd.July 29, 2013 5:01 pm at 5:01 pm #541045
Reminds me a little of this:
Regardless the ‘open container district’ is just an idea at the moment and one that really needs thought out before any kind of implementation or vote.July 29, 2013 5:31 pm at 5:31 pm #541046
Are you really suggesting that just because one neighborhood might have more of an entertainment focus that it should therefore be open to anything that could fall under the ‘entertainment’ category?
Nope, that’s not what I’m suggesting.
I hope you’ve already realized that that’s absurd.
Yes, what you just said was absurd.July 29, 2013 5:33 pm at 5:33 pm #541047
Reminds me a little of this:
Yeah, it’s like:July 29, 2013 5:34 pm at 5:34 pm #541048July 29, 2013 5:55 pm at 5:55 pm #541049
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