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ODOT major shift to "Fix it First" policy

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    Eugene_C
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    ODOT is expected to announce, soon, that it is moving away from an expansionist highway policy and moving toward a “Fix it First” priority.

    ODOT Expected to Announce Major Shift to ‘Fix-it-First’ Policy

    According to ODOT’s own internal estimates, current funds will not be enough to maintain Ohio’s existing system by 2019 – the time when the Ohio Turnpike bonds are gone. Thus, without a major new source of revenue like a gas tax increase, ODOT intends to completely get out of the highway expansion business, and shift all funds to maintenance and rehabilitation.

    …“It’s finally sinking in that we cannot continue on this unsustainable pace of highway expansion,” said an ODOT employee who spoke to UrbanCincy on the conditions of anonymity..

    …While officials say the move is economically driven, it also comes at a time as activists around the country – including numerous cities throughout Ohio – are increasingly calling for governments to embrace a “fix-it-first” policy….”

    #1112011

    jbcmh81
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    They should start this policy with the ridiculous Portsmouth Bypass project.

    #1112103

    Eugene_C
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    They should start this policy with the ridiculous Portsmouth Bypass project.

    I think the Portsmouth bypass may be one of the projects that’s up for the chopping block. It’s going to be hard to stop something like that once it gets rolling, though. There were probably deals made on legislation and land purchased in anticipation of increased value from the construction, etc. and some people will be angry if it gets scrubbed.

    #1112145

    jbcmh81
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    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>jbcmh81 wrote:</div>
    They should start this policy with the ridiculous Portsmouth Bypass project.

    I think the Portsmouth bypass may be one of the projects that’s up for the chopping block. It’s going to be hard to stop something like that once it gets rolling, though. There were probably deals made on legislation and land purchased in anticipation of increased value from the construction, etc. and some people will be angry if it gets scrubbed.

    I think it already has started. I was also curious about the fate of later phases of the 70/71 project, particularly at the 315 intersection, or the 70 canyon.

    #1112320
    Ned23
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    Has anyone ever seen Portsmouth? Why on earth do they need a bypass? There are neighborhoods in Columbus that are bigger than Portsmouth.

    Portsmouth Population: 20,000
    Clintonville population: 33,000

    #1112336

    Lu
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    ODOT is expected to announce, soon, that it is moving away from an expansionist highway policy and moving toward a “Fix it First” priority.

    This would be a smart move in advance of the driverless car revolution. The technology promises to utilize existing road capacity much more efficiently, and could greatly reduce the need for expansion.

    #1112341

    joev
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    The Portsmouth bypass is probably more for people who don’t live in Portsmouth than people who do. See Lancaster and Nelsonville on Route 33.

    #1112378

    Analogue Kid
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    I think it already has started. I was also curious about the fate of later phases of the 70/71 project, particularly at the 315 intersection, or the 70 canyon.

    Since those are existing highways, they should still hopefully get funded. With The 70/71 split such a high crash area, it’s like to be a high priority for improvements.

    This seems to be an acknowledgement that projects that go from forest/cornfield -> superhighway are generally a boondoggle.

    #1112419
    Posole
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    The Portsmouth bypass is probably more for people who don’t live in Portsmouth than people who do. See Lancaster and Nelsonville on Route 33.

    It could also be for some land speculator who wants to build a mall at one of the exits and bribed some politicians.

    #1112420
    Ned23
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    If i lived in Portsmouth I would be leary of a bypass. It could devastate downtown businesses and cause sprawl. It’s a nice little town with gridded streets right now.

    #1112421
    Ned23
    Ned23
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    If i lived in Portsmouth I would be leary of a bypass. It could devastate downtown businesses and cause sprawl. It’s a nice little town with gridded streets right now.

    Too many politicians mistakenly tout these as economic engines. That happened in Marysville, where it was actually needed for the Honda Plant and their bypass did not amount to much direct growth for decades and their downtown suffered.

    #1112423

    GCrites80s
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    I don’t think it’s going to cause much sprawl. I lived in Portsmouth for college and few people are interested in investing much into the area. And all those townships the bypass runs through are dry, which de-motivates gas stations and other stores from opening in the vicinity. Plus they have to do much more grading and blasting to level the terrain than we see up here in the flatlands.

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