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    Tom Over
    Tom Over
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    It would be counterproductive if established anti-war, civil rights,
    labor, and environmental groups tried to co-opt the occupation movement.
    But they should tap into the movement’s raw energy and flexibility for
    building alliances that put more power into the hands of so-called
    ordinary people.

    Without the spontaneity and flexibility of the occupation movement to draw
    from, many of the established activist groups and not-for-profits seem
    likely to continue defending their turf instead of building a broad-based
    movement that will give us strength in numbers.

    To what extent is anyone on this forum familiar with the book The Revolution Will Not Be Funded: Beyond The Nonprofit-Industrial Complex ?

    #463204
    Tom Over
    Tom Over
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    Snarf said:
    You should work on brevity.

    Snarf, if by that you mean not necessarily shorter posts, but more content crammed into fewer words, then, yes, I intend to take steps in that direction. I realize if the writing were better, sentence by sentence, the length of the piece would not be a problem. Thanks man

    #463205

    myliftkk
    Participant

    #463206

    cheap
    Member

    two important factors were not presented in those statistics

    how much the govt. lost because those people didn’t pay taxes

    what the average income is of those people in that graph

    #463207

    Tenzo
    Participant

    cheap said:
    two important factors were not presented in those statistics

    how much the govt. lost because those people didn’t pay taxes

    I believe the largest part is people who PAY payroll TAXES.
    My reading of this is that they paid their taxes when they got their paycheck.

    #463208

    DavidF
    Participant

    Tenzo said:
    I believe the largest part is people who PAY payroll TAXES.
    My reading of this is that they paid their taxes when they got their paycheck.

    Rich people can’t comprehend the concept of payroll taxes, so they don’t count.

    #463209
    Tom Over
    Tom Over
    Participant

    Class warrior Ann Bell

    Class warrior from Wisconsin says building a movement requires courage, solidarity, and long-term organization

    Ann Bell, an economist by trade, draws those conclusions from her experience with fighting back against the attacks on collective bargaining in Wisconsin. Our paths crossed last weekend at Freedom Plaza, one of the sites of the ongoing occupations in DC. Like her counterparts in Occupy Columbus, Bell is part of a national movement to make government and corporations more accountable.

    “As we were illegally kicked out of the capital and moved more to focusing on the recall elections, we really kind of saw the weakness of the progressive movement (in terms of ) not building long term organizations and umbrella groups that we can use independent of who wins elections and independent of what exactly the issue is that we’re being confronted with.”

    Bell said the fundamental issue to base a mass movement on is income inequality.

    “It has basically put us back to the era of the robber barons. We’ve regressed to the gilded age.”

    She said building a mass movement requires courage and solidarity. As we spoke, someone on stage announced that police had pepper-sprayed one of the marchers protesting the drone exhibit at the Air and Space Museum.

    Bell said facing the risk of being pepper sprayed involves one type of courage. But she also talked about moral courage.

    “When our media is dominated by rightwing ideas, when people are demoralized, when they’re told their voice doesn’t matter and their contribution to society doesn’t matter , just stepping up and standing up for yourself is an act of courage.”

    Bell said focusing our energy on the right thing—instead of being divided and conquered— is part of building a movement.

    “There is a tendency to attack someone who is on the same level or just a little bit lower than you, of working class people who are really suffering and then turning around to attack immigrants or African Americans or …‘welfare queens.’”

    Bell said divide-and-conquer is always a tactic of the ruling class.

    “If you look at the Tea Party, a lot of those people have genuine complaints and they’re really suffering. How do we reach out to them ? Well, some people are incorrigible and we’re never going to make any progress. But it’s important to keep an open mind and to try to find common ground with people…I’m always hopeful that we can reach out to people, but the danger of right-wing populism—taking people’s legitimate suffering and turning it in a very negative, scapegoating direction is always a possibility.”

    #463210

    Static-X
    Member

    The cops were billy clubbin the shit out of the people in New York. How else do you take care of squaters? If you’re going to mate and smoke weed in Central Park, well you need to pay some price, and a few billy clubbins to the body is payment enough.

    #463211

    Andrew Hall
    Member

    This is hilarious.

    Check out Occupy Herbstreit[/url]

    A.

    #463212

    News
    Participant

    Occupy Wall Street Shows Muscle, Raises $300K
    by THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
    October 16, 2011

    The Occupy Wall Street movement has close to $300,000, as well as storage space loaded with donated supplies in lower Manhattan. It stared down city officials to hang on to its makeshift headquarters, showed its muscle Saturday with a big Times Square demonstration and found legions of activists demonstrating in solidarity across the country and around the world.

    READ MORE: http://www.npr.org/2011/10/16/141407573/occupy-wall-street-shows-muscle-raises-300k

    #463213
    Snarf
    Snarf
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    #463214

    Tenzo
    Participant

    #463215
    Snarf
    Snarf
    Participant

    ^cute. bet they’ll all vote Obama 44 come 2012.

    #463216
    rus
    rus
    Participant

    ^^^ *snicker*

    #463217

    bman
    Participant

    Rus and Scarf are great bedfellows!

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