New Three-Story Building Proposed for Prescott at Pearl in Italian Village
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February 15, 2014 10:11 pm at 10:11 pm #548488
MercuriusParticipantmbeaumont said:
A rendering was passed around at this week’s IVS meeting. Looks pretty nice, imo!Thanks Mike. It does look like it would fit in nice with that corner.
February 16, 2014 3:13 pm at 3:13 pm #548489
ntnParticipantAs with all IV development, 90% of IVS were angered by it.
February 17, 2014 3:57 am at 3:57 am #548491
CalebParticipantIV – The neighborhood everyone wants to develop in, but are fought around every corner.
February 17, 2014 1:06 pm at 1:06 pm #548492
Mike88ParticipantThis place looks fantastic, not sure why anyone would push back on it.
It’s certainly better than a bare lot.February 17, 2014 2:03 pm at 2:03 pm #548493
ntnParticipantEvery resident would like a ~5/1* parking/unit ratio
*slight exaggeration
February 17, 2014 2:37 pm at 2:37 pm #548494
Walker EvansKeymasterI don’t think these types of things are really that unique to Italian Village. There seem to be people arguing in favor of and against projects in all neighborhoods. It makes for healthy debate and discussion.
February 17, 2014 2:38 pm at 2:38 pm #548495
mbeaumontParticipantYeah, the main issue that most people have at IVS is parking. A lot of these people live on streets where parking can be burdensome and they view any new development through that lens first, everything else second.
Not a criticism, just an observation.
But then, the whole Short North is becoming that way it seems. My view? Rather than asking the city to solve this issue by requiring so much parking for every new development, why don’t we push the city for better public transit?
Valuing cars over people is what got Columbus into the mess we’ve been trying to climb out of for decades. Every survey I’ve seen on public transportation and rail have shown that young people desire it, prefer it as a lifestyle, and are making their choices on where to live and work based around that. So let’s do something that benefits residents, tourists and potential newcomers alike and start taking rail seriously.
February 17, 2014 2:53 pm at 2:53 pm #548496
mbeaumontParticipantAnd to be fair, they’d probably say that I view new development through density first and everything else second, which isn’t totally untrue.
The point is, we all have our priorities and it’s up to us as a community to make sure our voices are heard while also doing what is right for the neighborhood and city at large, not just ourselves.
February 17, 2014 3:16 pm at 3:16 pm #548498
Liner NotesParticipantI’ll agree that many who live in Italian Village wear parking on their sleeves when it comes to new projects. As a former resident, I did not have off-street parking nor did I have permit parking. It was a complete hassle 80% of the time due to visitors, employees and neighbors alike. I included neighbors, because some don’t take kindly to you parking in front of their house (a block away from your own). So at this time, I think a 1:1 parking space per unit in new builds is necessary for everyone’s sanity. Is that the ideal situation when talking density in an urban neighborhood? Probably not. But until there is serious backing for better public transportation in the city AND within the Short North, resident’s shouldn’t be expected to ditch their cars all together.
Having said that, I don’t think that parking is #1 when it comes to new 7 story apartment buildings. Many residents feel that actual homes might be a better fit for their community. So it seems to me that the debate is more about responsible development so that these large projects don’t overshadow the fabric of the historical neighborhoods.
February 17, 2014 3:53 pm at 3:53 pm #548499
Walker EvansKeymasterLiner Notes said:
But until there is serious backing for better public transportation in the city AND within the Short North, resident’s shouldn’t be expected to ditch their cars all together.Between improvements to COTA in the past few years and the addition of Car2Go, COGO, bike infrastructure, Uber, etc, I’d say we’ve already arrived at better public transportation. And BRT and a Downtown shuttle are also on the way.
Besides, It’s not like every resident needs to go carless in some sort of extreme expectation. But there should be some degree of expectation that new development (especially right on High Street) can have a lower than 1:1 unit ratio for parking requirements. Maybe 10% of new residents should be anticipated to be multimodal? Or 20%? Or 30%? That sounds feasible to me.
February 17, 2014 4:16 pm at 4:16 pm #548500
mbeaumontParticipantI have more sympathy for the single family homes vs. multistory apartment building argument when it is occurring within the residential part of IV. And in fact, the commission acts accordingly (see the parcel on 1st and Summit where the developer wanted a three story building and it is now looking like it will be town homes.)
But the most recent multistory proposals have been less than a block off High, and within the Short North design guidelines, where these types of buildings are not only appropriate but encouraged.
February 17, 2014 4:31 pm at 4:31 pm #548501
Liner NotesParticipantmbeaumont said:
But the most recent multistory proposals have been less than a block off High, and within the Short North design guidelines, where these types of buildings are not only appropriate but encouraged.
Actually, the SN design guidelines require at least two stories and any projects 6 or more stories are reviewed on a case-by-case basis. That isn’t necessarily discouragement for taller developments, but I think emphasizes the desire for smaller scale projects that fit the fabric of the neighborhoods. So it shouldn’t be considered odd that a community would want to weigh in on proposals of such height, even within the footprint set out by the SN design guidelines.
February 17, 2014 4:38 pm at 4:38 pm #548502
Liner NotesParticipantWalker said:
Between improvements to COTA in the past few years and the addition of Car2Go, COGO, bike infrastructure, Uber, etc, I’d say we’ve already arrived at better public transportation. And BRT and a Downtown shuttle are also on the way.It is getting easier, agreed. But I know from experience what it is like to live in a major city (SF) without a car, where I had to use public transportation to do my grocery shopping, laundry, take my cat to the vet, etc. It was a hassle there and Columbus doesn’t even come close in any community to the frequency and availability of its transit lines. But Car2Go, yeah I wish I had that option then.
February 17, 2014 4:53 pm at 4:53 pm #548504
lazyfishParticipantsay goodbye to the full sun backyards and veggie gardens. The building looks like it escaped from the Arena District, has faux all over it. I did like the townhouse details from Hubbard Park.
February 17, 2014 5:16 pm at 5:16 pm #548505
Walker EvansKeymasterlazyfish said:
say goodbye to the full sun backyards and veggie gardens.From a three story building? Not really that much taller than plenty of other homes in IV.
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