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Nationwide Realty buys more land in Franklinton

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  • #1119741

    wpcc88
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    I’ve always thought if the Crew moved to West Nationwide that something like the bottom two links should follow. I think the multi-venue concept would work really well in that area but could also help in the revitalization of Franklinton too. This would almost guarantee the need for better public transit(aka a streetcar which I think is coming this decade). It would provide another live/work/play district in Columbus and push us further towards the future; and not to mention get all of our professional teams in our downtown core.

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    #1119745

    ohbr
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    Another perspective on the three great venues mentioned. KC Sporting, Xfinitity, Patriot Place. As individual venues, they are good. But they do nothing for vibrancy or spurring neighborhood growth EXCEPT as infilling their own parking lots. I’ll give you West Franklinton, or even Hilltop with highway access and great views of the city sans seas of parking lots. But our stadium is closer to the city center than some of the examples being thrown out.

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    #1119747

    ohbr
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    I can’t get the images to the right size, but the rest look similar to Patriot place. Great for pictures, but the bigger picture shows nothing more than a destination in a sea of parking lots outside the city. Not saying the stadium needs to have seas of lots, just that the Crew’s current location can also be rethought using these other examples and still be a better contribution to the city than its current form.

    #1119754

    Mike88
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    Another perspective on the three great venues mentioned. KC Sporting, Xfinitity, Patriot Place. As individual venues, they are good. But they do nothing for vibrancy or spurring neighborhood growth EXCEPT as infilling their own parking lots. I’ll give you West Franklinton, or even Hilltop with highway access and great views of the city sans seas of parking lots. But our stadium is closer to the city center than some of the examples being thrown out.

    I think the reason why Penn West or Franklinton are attractive is because they avoid the sea of parking that is happening currently at Crew stadium. If you build in Penn West, basically all of the parking you need is in walking distance and maybe one more garage is needed. If you build in Franklinton you have a chance to build a few garages and perhaps expand the COSI garage. If a Museum complex is coming parking can be used for all attractions year round vs the 40-60 days a year the stadium is in full use.

    As far as highway access goes with 315 right there and Broad acting as an artery it is just as well if not better positioned than where Crew Stadium is now. Leaving there after a game is a nightmare.

    You are correct though SO MANY other MLS teams have much worse locations than we do. I live in the Short North and bike to Crew games. But I would love to see the stadium mesh into the city itself instead of sitting on an island at the fair grounds.

    #1119755

    wpcc88
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    I can’t get the images to the right size, but the rest look similar to Patriot place. Great for pictures, but the bigger picture shows nothing more than a destination in a sea of parking lots outside the city. Not saying the stadium needs to have seas of lots, just that the Crew’s current location can also be rethought using these other examples and still be a better contribution to the city than its current form.

    I thought that too, look at Toyota Stadium in Frisco which is where Dallas’ team plays. They have a mixed-use area and also a soccer “academy” integrated. I’ve always thought that would be the best way to go about it because then you can get OSU involved and create a soccer camp that could draw people to that area. Move the OHS downtown to the peninsula, OSHP Training facility outside of the city and develop that whole area with parking, hotels and entertainment.

    #1119761
    _calebross
    _calebross
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    The Broad Street/315 exit is fairly limited and would be hard to reconfigure. The only entrance/exit from 315 is when you’re heading south on 315 and that is it.

    Broad Street wouldn’t be the artery used if the Crew did move. It would be Town and Rich that would be the arteries unless ODOT completely reconfigured SR315 between I670 and I70.

    #1119768

    BJEverson09
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    Walker, I know there’s a difference between the two neighborhoods but that does not mean they share a soon to be similar gentrification story. That then Franklinton will surpass OTE and again take away from OTE’s opportunity/appeal as would be residents prefer Franklinton.

    And I really hope you kidding about home values in OTE. Other than the top 5 in your link, the rest are foreclosures or the listing isnt disclosed, which is never a good sign as far as value goes.

    #1119780

    WJT
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    Walker, I know there’s a difference between the two neighborhoods but that does not mean they share a soon to be similar gentrification story. That then Franklinton will surpass OTE and again take away from OTE’s opportunity/appeal as would be residents prefer Franklinton.

    And I really hope you kidding about home values in OTE. Other than the top 5 in your link, the rest are foreclosures or the listing isnt disclosed, which is never a good sign as far as value goes.

    I would hope this would not happen. They are very different areas-the housing stock is generally better in OTE and someone looking for a good old house is going to look there. Most of East Franklinton is going to be in renovated commercial buildings or new builds-the area is working class and has always been working class and the existing housing stock(the little that remains), like in West Franklinton, is smaller, old, generally wooden, and less appealing than the old large brick homes in OTE.

    Hopefully both will thrive with the city growing and just attract different types or residents?

    #1119781

    WJT
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    Also I the best places at least when it comes to available area for a new Crew Stadium are taken-The West Pen area is already scheduled or redevelopment, Whittier Peninsula is now a metro park, The old Jeffrey site is being developed, The Scioto Peninsula area is probably going for museums and mixed use. Anything else would cause dislocation and displacement and a disruption of the street network(another mega block) when if anything we need better street connections.

    #1119785
    MichaelC
    MichaelC
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    Not knowing (but assuming) it’s extremely difficult to displace rail lines, the land between Vine Street and Huntington Park/LC Pavillion is still open is it not?

    #1122570
    MichaelC
    MichaelC
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    Business First has an update in its print edition today.

    In the article, Evan Weese reports that whatever Nationwide does with the land it now owns, the development will not resemble Grandview Yard or the Arena District. In terms of timelines, they’re waiting for “the right thing.”

    #1122595

    ohbr
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    In terms of timelines, they’re waiting for “the right thing.”

    Doesn’t sound like they are wanting to be the catalyst or trend setter here. I get the feeling they just want to sit on a bunch of land in case Franklinton does become very popular. Interesting.

    #1122645

    jbcmh81
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    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>MichaelC wrote:</div>
    In terms of timelines, they’re waiting for “the right thing.”

    Doesn’t sound like they are wanting to be the catalyst or trend setter here. I get the feeling they just want to sit on a bunch of land in case Franklinton does become very popular. Interesting.

    At the very least, I would expect that a few thing happen before construction in Franklinton, such as the finishing of the new HQ in GY. The other thing is that they still have that big site in the Arena District that they have yet to announce any plans for. I think this gets developed before anything happens in Franklinton.

    #1122692

    ohbr
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    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>ohbr wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>MichaelC wrote:</div><br>
    In terms of timelines, they’re waiting for “the right thing.”

    Doesn’t sound like they are wanting to be the catalyst or trend setter here. I get the feeling they just want to sit on a bunch of land in case Franklinton does become very popular. Interesting.

    At the very least, I would expect that a few thing happen before construction in Franklinton, such as the finishing of the new HQ in GY. The other thing is that they still have that big site in the Arena District that they have yet to announce any plans for. I think this gets developed before anything happens in Franklinton.

    The New HQ is wrapping up shortly. Building 1 will have employees in a month. Building 2 should be wrapping up in the months after. Beyond that, it’s just frustrating to see them buying up land seemingly waiting for someone else to make the first move or to have some really long term plan. I’d rather see them move on Franklinton first than Arena West tbh.

    #1122694

    drtom1234
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    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>jbcmh81 wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>ohbr wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>MichaelC wrote:</div><br><br>
    In terms of timelines, they’re waiting for “the right thing.”

    Doesn’t sound like they are wanting to be the catalyst or trend setter here. I get the feeling they just want to sit on a bunch of land in case Franklinton does become very popular. Interesting.

    At the very least, I would expect that a few thing happen before construction in Franklinton, such as the finishing of the new HQ in GY. The other thing is that they still have that big site in the Arena District that they have yet to announce any plans for. I think this gets developed before anything happens in Franklinton.

    The New HQ is wrapping up shortly. Building 1 will have employees in a month. Building 2 should be wrapping up in the months after. Beyond that, it’s just frustrating to see them buying up land seemingly waiting for someone else to make the first move or to have some really long term plan. I’d rather see them move on Franklinton first than Arena West tbh.

    Just because they haven’t announced a long term plan doesn’t mean they don’t have one. And, IMO, I don’t think moving on Franklinton before the former casino site makes tons of sense. Alot of what happens in Franklinton and the Scioto peninsula hinges on the completion of the parking garage and park in late 2017; once that is done, I suspect we’ll see things move pretty quickly on the peninsula, and for that developoment to rapidly spill over into Franklinton. Whereas the former Casino site has two other developers involved who are not going to want to develop around a big empty field now, and then have huge amounts of construction in their front yard later. Also, don’t forget, NRI also has the 3 new 12 story condo buildings and a parking garage going up in the Arena district already; NRI, while pretty flush, doesn’t have unlimited cash to work with.

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