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    Coremodels
    Coremodels
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    sirlancelot said:
    I used to live near the area, and it looks better now than 10 years ago. What NCH should be doing is assist in creating more local affordable housing options for both area residents and lower salaried employees.

    They have purchased and rehabbed almost 200 homes in the area, which are then offered as affordable housing via the Healthy Homes program. You can view some of them that are complete here:

    http://www.healthyhomesco.org/

    Again, this is producing a net gain of 50-60 homes in the neighborhood.

    #458108

    myliftkk
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    Walker said:
    Thanks for all of the extra info. There are certainly big challenges to overcome with this type of thing. I can’t help but wonder how much of that employee and visitor mindset is encouraged by the development configuration and how much is just normal human behavior patterns.

    Considering I’m fairly familiar with hospital facilities in other locales (including high density urban ones), I’d say it has more to with the human behavior patterns around a healthcare facilit(ies) than the particular development of any one facility.

    Human beings, when faced with a healthcare challenge/issue/event, for either themselves or another, which in turn has them make a visit to a major facility (and with the distribution of walk in clinics, the patient mix for major facilities is sicker than ever before), generally have zero appetite for what we might call pleasurable activities during their visit.

    No one, for example, wants to wait for a call in a higher priced restaurant or boutique as to whether they or friend has a serious diagnosis. In addition, given the costs healthcare services are known to extract from a patient, it’s even more unlikely they’re going to feel encouraged to do other pleaseurable spending in near proximity. Just because visitors are in proximity, you can’t discount the psychological state of mind they adopt around a serious illness, for themselves or a close friends/relative. And, because of the sporadic nature of things like test results, condition updates, etc, a visitor’s time is often at the mercy of the particular timing of the employees at the facility.

    I’ll give you a reverse example of what we’re talking about. Many years ago, some executives got it in their head that they would open a women’s diagnostic facility inside a popular shopping mall. Their thinking was, “women love shopping” and “women need diagnostic services unique to them” ergo “women would love to shop and get their diagnostic test done in the same setting”. Abso-fucking-lutely not. Facility opened, millions of dollars, inside a popular, not dying, shopping mall, closed it in under 2 two years (it may not have even lasted 1 iirc). Now, anyone with the least bit of psychological sense would understand the gulf between those two activities is somewhere right around the grand canyon size. But, we’re not run by psychologists, we’re run by accountants who see numbers. Numbers said it would work, psychology said, and proved, it won’t (at least not to the scale to make it profitable).

    Of course, we’re doing another mega project that’s going to die on that same hill. But, again, our executives forget that they run facilities, however great their services, that no one really wants to visit by choice.

    ETA: Which isn’t to say healthcare facilities aren’t and can’t be good community partners. They are and they can, but they can’t be everything to everyone. They are a specific type of business, and serve a very discrete customer base at a very sensitive time. If we were to swap out the term “healthcare facility” with the term “funeral home”, I don’t think you’d have any problem understanding why they don’t contribute to economic development in the manner you might expect.

    #458109
    Caleb
    Caleb
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    jpizzow said:
    ^^ Still no excuse for poor design, hospital or not.

    I never said it was, but its fact.

    If you’re visiting a hospital, its highly unlikely that you’re going to walk out the hospital doors and explore the neighborhood…

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    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
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    #1019766

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    May 28, 2014, 1:08pm EDT
    Nationwide Children’s planning outpatient, office buildings next to main campus
    Carrie Ghose
    Staff reporter – Columbus Business First

    Nationwide Children’s Hospital is planning outpatient and office buildings for land it has assembled adjoining its downtown campus over the past two years. Construction is expected to start this fall on a faculty office building at the corner of Livingston and Parsons avenues, the site of a former KFC restaurant that the hospital paid $2.25 million to acquire after nearly two decades of trying.a

    READ MORE: http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2014/05/28/nationwide-children-s-planning-outpatient-office.html

    #1019805

    futureman
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    A 5 to 6 story building at that corner would greatly help to mask a portion of the huge eyesore of a parking garage behind it.

    #1019823
    Jason Powell
    Jason Powell
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    Agreed. I’m glad to hear that they are including retail on the first floor. Here’s hoping that the other building doesn’t include a blank white wall facing the sidewalk similar to the research building on the corner.

    #1019837
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
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    Agreed. I’m glad to hear that they are including retail on the first floor.

    It is too early to start making predictions on what will fill that space? ;)

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    heresthecasey
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    Hospital plans new ambulatory center

    Nationwide Children’s Hospital revealed a new development plan that would put a seven-story, 200,000-square-foot building on the outskirts of German Village.

    Construction on the Livingston Ambulatory Center building, at the northeast corner of Livingston and Grant avenues, is set to begin the first week of January.

    http://www.thisweeknews.com/content/stories/germanvillage/news/2014/08/18/hospital-plans-new-ambulatory-center.html

    #1054630

    ryan883
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    Anyone know what’s going on here? The sidewalks have been closed for a while… is there a building going up or just more funky lighting like the other corners…

    #1054633

    heresthecasey
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    #1054647
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
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    Brent reached out to Nationwide Childrens this week about this, but they didn’t have information to share at this point in time.

    Which is weird considering that preliminary construction has already begun.

    No renderings? No site plans?

    #1054687

    ryan883
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    Excellent! That will add to the already great looking corner and hide some of the parking garage.

    #1054761
    Josh Miller
    Josh Miller
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    I’ve probably spent way too much time scouring the interwebs for renderings and have come up empty-handed, how mysterious!

    #1056036
    Josh Miller
    Josh Miller
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    A rendering of the building at Grant & Livingston was just released but still no update for the Parsons & Livingston piece.

    nationwide childrens grant livingston

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