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    SusanB
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    And did you know that the CPS budget is larger than the entire budget for the city of Columbus? Interesting.

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    rus
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    ehill27 said:
    I don’t see how withholding a funding increase would resolve the “corruption” issue. Wouldn’t voting for new board members have a greater impact?

    At the very least it would give them less money to divert to “other uses”.

    A lack of new money would also show public distrust of current policies and provide impetus to the bureaucracy to change.

    Not to say that voting for new board members wouldn’t also help.

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    heresthecasey
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    CPS already spends more dollars per student than virtually any other district. Throwing even more money down that pit is not going to solve the problem.

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    DTown
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    SusanB said:
    And did you know that the CPS budget is larger than the entire budget for the city of Columbus? Interesting.

    Interesting, why? City government and public education are two very different missions, aren’t they? What can we derive from the cost of one vs the other?

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    DTown
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    heresthecasey said:
    CPS already spends more dollars per student than virtually any other district. Throwing even more money down that pit is not going to solve the problem.

    CPS is a completely different animal than virtually any other district. Comparing CPS to suburban districts is not realistic or productive.

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    DTown
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    rus said:
    At the very least it would give them less money to divert to “other uses”.

    A lack of new money would also show public distrust of current policies and provide impetus to the bureaucracy to change.

    Not to say that voting for new board members wouldn’t also help.

    Public awareness and involvement would also, without arbitrary restrictions.

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    rus
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    heresthecasey said:
    CPS already spends more dollars per student than virtually any other district. Throwing even more money down that pit is not going to solve the problem.

    +1

    #544658

    Lu
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    Today’s Dispatch has a scathing editorial about the Board and the levy:

    [quote][b]Many miles from trust
    School board must build voters’ confidence before levy has chance[/b]

    Among the many things the Columbus Board of Education appears not to have learned from a year of scandal and turmoil is that it must earn the public’s confidence if it is to govern effectively, and particularly if it hopes to win voters’ approval of a new tax levy.

    Yet, board members persist in actions and statements that make clear how little they understand this.

    It’s been a solid year of one damning revelation after another: a widespread conspiracy to manipulate attendance records and grades in order to distort state report cards, the board’s improper secret meetings to discuss the scandal, a separate investigation by the FBI, possibly involving contract bid-rigging, and allegations that school-district officials have impeded investigations. Through all of this, never has the board acknowledged any responsibility for the mess.[/quote]

    [url=http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/editorials/2013/06/23/1-many-miles-from-trust.html]http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/editorials/2013/06/23/1-many-miles-from-trust.html[/url]

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    I like the comments on that one, better than the article.

    Wonder why the Dispatch is trying to discredit Wiles? He’s the only board member who has been responsive/accountable to the community. I guess the newspaper doesn’t like his position against defunding CCS children and teachers.

    Dispatch vs Wiles in terms of credibility: that’s an easy call in my view -it’s the newspaper that’s miles away from my trust. Everything it writes is an advertisement for the Education Commission.

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    Jeff Regensburger
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    heresthecasey said:
    CPS already spends more dollars per student than virtually any other district.

    The information I found regarding school district expenditures in Ohio for 2010-2011 indicated that Columbus City Schools ranked 17th in the state for Overall Expenditures per Pupil and 38th in the state for Instructional Expenditures per Pupil.

    Granted, there are over six-hundred school districts in Ohio, so Columbus is clearly near the top in terms of expenditures. Specifically they’re in the top 3% for overall spending and the top 5% for instructional spending.

    This link below provides data for all the Ohio districts. It’s sortable too, which is handy. It’s interesting to see how the various cities and municipalities stack up:

    http://stateimpact.npr.org/ohio/2012/01/17/see-how-much-each-ohio-school-district-spends-per-student/

    #544662

    Analogue Kid
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    Lu said:
    Today’s Dispatch has a scathing editorial about the Board and the levy:

    [quote][b]Many miles from trust
    School board must build voters’ confidence before levy has chance[/b]
    [/quote]

    [url=http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/editorials/2013/06/23/1-many-miles-from-trust.html]http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/editorials/2013/06/23/1-many-miles-from-trust.html[/url]

    Mike Wiles is the ONLY good board member right now. Screw the Dispatch and their Education Commission.

    As for the levy, regardless of the amount, the editorial is correct that without public trust, it doesn’t stand a chance. That’s really unfortunate because the current leadership probably isn’t going to get the message to buck up or get out until a defeat at the polls.

    #544663

    News
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    [b]Committee OK’s Columbus Schools Levy Proposal[/b]
    Thursday July 11, 2013 3:02 PM

    [i]COLUMBUS, Ohio – A new levy to improve Columbus City Schools would raise property taxes on homeowners. The levy, if approved by the Columbus Board of Education and local voters, could raise property taxes $315 a year on each $100,000 of property value.
    [/i]
    READ MORE: http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2013/07/11/columbus-schools-levy-could-raise-property-taxes.html

    #544664

    heresthecasey
    Participant

    I think they have got to be nuts to try and push a levy through in this environment.

    CPS is toxic right now. The board should focus on rebuilding confidence in the system itself before asking voters to throw more money at it.

    #544665

    Pro Se
    Participant

    I am usually all for school funding but I agree, the timing is bad for a hefty levy like this. I can’t believe how high property taxes are getting here.

    #544666

    I have a problem voting for something that has a track record…
    *[url=http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/06/03/federal-audit-dings-district-on-tutor-money.html]Federal audit dings Columbus schools on tutor money[/url]
    *[url=http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/05/22/Columbus-schools-to-keep-internal-auditor.html]Columbus schools won’t give up internal auditor[/url]
    *[url=http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/06/20/study-big-cuts-in-citys-nonteaching-costs-needed.html]Columbus schools spend more than similar districts, study finds[/url]
    *[url=http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/06/03/Yost_speaks.html Columbus schools’ legal bill at $500,000, and counting]Yost: Adults cheated pupils out of assistance in Columbus data-rigging scandal[/url]
    *[url=http://www.dispatch.com/content/blogs/the-eteam/2012/12/audit-released-on-line.html]Columbus City Schools internal audit now online[/url]
    (Read the Copy of emails that were sent back and forth…pages 27 and on…I’m shocked that a member of City Council knew this was going on, but did nothing..)
    *[url=http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/04/04/04-columbus-schools-audit.html]State audit: Money missing from Columbus schools[/url]
    *[url=http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/editorials/2013/05/07/another-blow-to-city-schools.html]Another blow to city schools[/url]

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