Light Rail in Central Ohio
- October 7, 2015 3:35 pm at 3:35 pm #1096764
Any mass transit line–streetcar or otherwise–has to connect Downtown with a suburb, IMO, and with at least one other destination in between.
A line that connects Downtown to the airport, Easton, and Gahanna/New Albany makes a lot of sense; a line that connects Downtown to the Hilltop, the casino, and Hilliard makes sense; a line that connects Downtown to Grandview/UA/Dublin and the Zoo makes sense; a line that connects Downtown to German Village, the south side, Grove City and Rickenbacker makes sense; a line that connects Downtown to Bexley/Whitehall, the east side, and Reynoldsburg/Pickerington makes sense; and perhaps most pressingly, a line connecting Downtown with the SN, campus, Clintonville, Worthington/Westerville, Polaris, and Olentangy/Powell makes sense.
And connecting the ‘burbs directly makes sense; the point made above that all bus routes must not go through Downtown is absolutely right, and our mass transit should, if not initially, account for that eventually.
Pie in the sky, though:
I’d love to see us do something unique with our mass transit here; our plans must be cognizant of the sea changes coming to transit, namely self-driving cars, Hyperloop, etc. Whatever we do here, let us do it thinking long-term, to facilitate Columbus’ growth rather than having to be so reactive and outdated upon its completion.
Let’s build something here that’s uniquely functional, unlike lines built in similarly situated cities around the country or world.
Let’s build a system that can deliver people more efficiently than they could travel on their own.October 7, 2015 3:51 pm at 3:51 pm #1096765
If traffic congestion is used to determine placement the lines would first run along 70 from Pick/Reynoldsberg and the second line would be 33 from Lancaster. They are the worst ones.October 7, 2015 4:42 pm at 4:42 pm #1096770
If traffic congestion is used to determine placement the lines would first run along 70 from Pick/Reynoldsberg and the second line would be 33 from Lancaster. They are the worst ones.
A line along 33 to Lancaster was actually once a proposal back in the first half of the 1990s. It popped up around the time that Columbus had a proposal for 8 routes in a sort of spoke system from Downtown to various suburbs.October 7, 2015 5:19 pm at 5:19 pm #1096778
Driving out to Belle Valley today at 7am the traffic at that time was backed up bumper to bumper all the way to 256. It stays packed inbound to the city for hours. I normally drive 33 south at the same time and the line goes to the north side of Lancaster. I go against traffic both ways, thank goodness. At 7:15am it is fully packed. The median of both roads has enough space to hold an east/west line similar to how the Rapid works in Cleveland.
They need some big park and rides like they have in Chicago and that would move a bunch of people. Neither line would serve the airport or High st(which does not need a line at all in my opinion), but would serve the people and would stand the most chance of success in my mind due to usage. The third line would come in 70 from the west and pick up Hilliard people. The fourth line would mimic 315 all the way up to Powell or Lewis Center. Or heck all the way to Delaware.
I am picking lines based only on how long the traffic lines are at rush hour. When I was in NYC over Labor Day it was interesting to note how and which subway lines were closed over the holiday. They based usage and closures strictly on rush hour usage and not tourism usage or convenience usage. The subways exist to get people to and from work in NYC. They shut down half of them in Brooklyn/Central Park/Battery Park over the holiday as although there were some who wanted to use them(still thousands of people), the bread and butter of the lines are the every day work riders. I think we need to do this as well.October 7, 2015 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm #1096819
<So if I had to choose just one line to build I would choose something like Broad st. since it goes straight through downtown west to east and intersects High st. I’d start from say maybe 70 to the west and go all the way to Franklin Park to the east. It could then easily be extended to run from 270 to 270 and an extension from Broad to the airport along Stezler.
I agree a bunch. My amendment would to have the line start at Convention Center Arena District go south on High to Broad then to CMHOctober 8, 2015 11:39 pm at 11:39 pm #1096924
An East-West line along Broad would seem like the natural choice though at least on the East side of town locating it on Main St might make for a better business development route since it was originally designed for that use. and sorely need in of development.
E. Broad was designed as a residential “boulevard”.October 15, 2015 1:41 pm at 1:41 pm #1097529
I was up in Cleveland over the weekend and rode the health line express bus up and down Euclid several times. I found it to be surprisingly effective, given the level of investment. I like that they put a bell on it, so it actually rings as it’s pulling into a stop, like a trolley.October 15, 2015 6:54 pm at 6:54 pm #1097600
once the bike lanes fail, there will be an open lane on N.4th and Summit for light rail, ingenious.October 15, 2015 10:37 pm at 10:37 pm #1097610
How exactly will the bike lanes fail?October 15, 2015 11:44 pm at 11:44 pm #1097619
several possible scenarios…revolt of the Clintonville commuters, increased accidents, disuse as cyclist choose their own route ( Indianola is used way more south of Hudson than either Summit or N. 4th), impractabilty for snow plowing, parking, and trash/recycling collection on Summit, lack of any comprehensive planning, bike fad fades, light rail replaces it.October 16, 2015 1:00 am at 1:00 am #1097637
Bike lanes will succeed when Clintonville commuters realize that there are multiple methods to get to IV and SN in a safe and healthy manner.October 21, 2015 9:48 am at 9:48 am #1098328
once the bike lanes fail, there will be an open lane on N.4th and Summit for light rail, ingenious.
I see more of a streetcar/trolley on N 4th. Light Rail would likely follow the railroad tracks with various stops along the way. Behind Soussy market would be a good stop, so would that vacant lot between 11th & Chittenden and the RR.October 21, 2015 10:49 am at 10:49 am #1098351
From a Cincinnati Biz Journal article:
Metro has a BRT-lite line known as Metro*Plus that runs from Kenwood to downtown through Uptown. Amongst U.S. cities, only Cleveland has a true BRT line with a dedicated lane and signal prioritization. Columbus also is considering a project, Holland & Knight’s representatives said.January 27, 2016 2:53 pm at 2:53 pm #1112396
Hopefully this can get momentum soon.January 27, 2016 3:00 pm at 3:00 pm #1112397
Hopefully this can get momentum soon.
From the article:
“At this stage, the discussion would be entirely theoretical…”
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