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    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
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    I saw this mentioned in the 3C discussion but thought this might deserve it’s own spinoff:

    Kasich wants nonprofit take over state’s economic-development work

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    WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 18, 2010

    BY JOE HALLETT AND MARK NIQUETTE

    THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

    In the first substantive proposal of the governor’s race, Republican John Kasich said yesterday that he wants to replace the Ohio Department of Development with a private, nonprofit corporation.

    Kasich would create JobsOhio and appoint a 12-member board of directors to oversee economic-development efforts, replacing half the state agency’s 400 jobs. The board would be made up of current and former chief executive officers, who would report to the governor. Members would come from different industries and areas of the state, Kasich said, and probably would be paid expenses only.

    READ MORE: http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/08/18/copy/a-privatization-proposal.html?adsec=politics&sid=101

    #397515

    Yeah, Mr. K said two things he probably wants to take back: “We don’t want public employees,” and “all the way to dotting T’s and crossing I’s.”

    #397516

    HeySquare
    Participant

    http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/08/18/copy/a-privatization-proposal.html?adsec=politics&sid=101 wrote >>
    Kasich said he would be chairman of the JobsOhio board, “but we don’t want a government entity. We don’t want the civil-service restrictions.”

    Translation: I want to give jobs to all my cronies.

    There is a reason the civil service was established, Mr. Kasich.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoils_system

    #397517

    berdawn
    Member

    That anyone would call this “substantive” is almost as funny as it is pathetic.

    #397518

    chaptal
    Participant

    Kasich wants only two people to work in government, him and his dead postal worker father.

    #397519

    Analogue Kid
    Participant

    I don’t know much about ODOD, but I can tell you from experience that things do not turn out well when you take a sledgehammer to a problem that only requires a socket wrench.

    #397520

    Lakee911
    Participant

    Well, he’s not going to get elected, so what is there to worry about? Right?

    #397521

    Nitsud Regnifloh
    Participant

    Surely he could NEVER have a good idea…surely. Right??

    #397522

    berdawn
    Member

    Lakee911 wrote >>
    Well, he’s not going to get elected, so what is there to worry about? Right?

    it’s early, but unless he comes out with something Rand Paul or Sharron Angle-y, my guess is he’ll do very well.

    #397523

    joev
    Participant

    It’s grandstanding. If another entity would have been in the news in a negative light last week, he would have picked that one to “privatize.” Kasich’s obvious disgust for state workers makes him unfit to lead them. To be so derrogatory without knowing much about the work the department does is not a great way to lead.

    Plus, he’s inconsistent. In the Dispatch, he’s quoted as saying, “We don’t want state workers.” In the Plain Dealer, he said a private non-profit would allow better pay than the state. So he wants to spend money on talent, as long as they’re not tained by being state workers? I don’t know any state workers who are in it for the money, but I know a lot who are in it because they know the work they do is helping their fellow Ohioans.

    #397524

    berdawn
    Member

    Nitsud Regnifloh wrote >>
    Surely he could NEVER have a good idea…surely. Right??

    not yet, anyway.

    #397525

    thepiece
    Participant

    This proposal seems like symbolic fluff to me. He wants to get his government bashing stripes. ODOD is relatively small (for a state agency) and also administers lots of federal programs (CDBG etc.). So, many of those positions are leveraging federal money, I’m not sure how cutting those jobs saves us money.
    (the same reason I don’t understand how him attacking the federally funded 3C actually saves us money)

    Also, ODOD is economic and community development (with a large number of housing programs), something his proposal seems to just ignore.
    So, why would a group of CEO’s be better administering the agency than the governor’s economic advisors? Why would a non-profit board of CEO’s be better at administering community development programs?

    Disclaimer: I worked for ODOD during the Taft administration for 2 years so I have a bias on this topic

    #397526

    Nitsud Regnifloh wrote >>
    Surely he could NEVER have a good idea…surely. Right??

    I donated time and money and shoe leather to the Strickland campaign. I have not been a happy constituent. I was seriously considering voting for Kasich when he became the presumptive nominee. Every time he opens his mouth though, he loses my vote and does so with regularity. It is not that I disagree – I don’t expect to agree fully with every politician I suppoprt – it is that everything he has said so far has been ill-thought-out, woefully incomplete and just the same cliched bad rhetoric is all too prevalent.

    The John who earned my respect back all those years ago is most emphatically NOT the John I see now.

    A.

    #397527

    Analogue Kid
    Participant

    joev wrote >>
    It’s grandstanding. If another entity would have been in the news in a negative light last week, he would have picked that one to “privatize.” Kasich’s obvious disgust for state workers makes him unfit to lead them. To be so derrogatory without knowing much about the work the department does is not a great way to lead.
    Plus, he’s inconsistent. In the Dispatch, he’s quoted as saying, “We don’t want state workers.” In the Plain Dealer, he said a private non-profit would allow better pay than the state. So he wants to spend money on talent, as long as they’re not tained by being state workers? I don’t know any state workers who are in it for the money, but I know a lot who are in it because they know the work they do is helping their fellow Ohioans.

    But didn’t you hear? The Buckeye Institute says state workers have gold plated compensation. Those greedy pensioners with their average annual $20,000 payout. I mean think of all the gold you could buy with that kind of money if you didn’t eat and lived on the street!

    #397528

    Mercurius
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