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Has America 'Jumped the Shark'? - Primaries 2016

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    RedStorm
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    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Posole wrote:</div>
    Am I the only one who thinks Trump is totally messing with the republicans and having a roaring good time in the process?

    Problem is he’s not even getting traditional republican support. He’s gathering independents, democrats, and some republicans. Remember he’s only grabbing ~35% tops of the electorate.

    Check out the Republican turnout because of him, it’s huge. These are people who don’t even consider themselves Republican.

    Turnout

    Because they are “open” primaries, meaning independents and democrats can vote in them. And they are…and voting for Trump since the worst candidate on the right is their best bet for Clinton winning in November. We’ll see what happens when more closed primaries start coming up.

    #1116809

    RedStorm
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    Republicans are putting up extremely weak candidate in Rubio and a oligarchy candidate in Bush.

    There is no longer a Bush in this race…

    #1116810
    ntn
    ntn
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    Dude has 36 replies and every single one were negative. Might there be some corollary with Republicans, or is he just a bitter person?

    #1116813
    Chris Sunami
    Chris Sunami
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    I see Trump or Hillary as almost the same, but probably would prefer Trump because he’s not represented by one of the two parties…at all.

    Do either of these two facts bother you?

    1) He’s endorsed by the KKK, an endorsement that he’s barely repudiated if at all.
    2) He’s currently being sued for massively defrauding students at his non-accredited “University.”

    My personal hope would be that either of those two facts alone would discredit Trump as a legitimate choice among voters of either party.

    I’m also amazed and horrified that he still has minority supporters, given his eagerness to exploit racist and jingoistic rhetoric.

    #1116815
    spfld_expat
    spfld_expat
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    I hate to play the “finger-on-the-button-card”, but the US has a military larger than the next seven countries put together and enough nukes to kill the world several times over.

    Trump is a thin-skinned, hair-trigger asshole who once sued Bill Maher for calling him the son of a baboon.

    Does anyone feel good with that combination?

    #1116816

    RedStorm
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    Do either of these two facts bother you?

    1) He’s endorsed by the KKK, an endorsement that he’s barely repudiated if at all.<br>
    2) He’s currently being sued for massively defrauding students at his non-accredited “University.”

    My personal hope would be that either of those two facts alone would discredit Trump as a legitimate choice among voters of either party.

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/11/hillary-clinton-is-now-tied-to-at-least-four-investigations-by-federal-agencies/

    But we’re cool with a candidate linked to four federal investigations? Or does that not count towards discrediting a candidate?

    Personally…there’s no candidate I really want to get behind. If it does come down to Clinton and Trump, I’d think long and hard about a 3rd party candidate vote. Trump is the only person I’m 100% sure not voting for – still deciding about others as the field narrows.

    #1116817

    mwood
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    Personally…there’s no candidate I really want to get behind. If it does come down to Clinton and Trump, I’d think long and hard about a 3rd party candidate vote. Trump is the only person I’m 100% sure not voting for – still deciding about others as the field narrows.

    In first-past-the-post voting, voting for a 3rd party candidate is effectively voting for the candidate most ideologically opposed to you. If you lean Clinton in a Clinton/Trump election and vote for, say, Bloomberg, then you have effectively cast a vote for Trump.

    #1116896

    thomaspickles
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    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>thomaspickles wrote:</div>
    I see Trump or Hillary as almost the same, but probably would prefer Trump because he’s not represented by one of the two parties…at all.

    Do either of these two facts bother you?

    1) He’s endorsed by the KKK, an endorsement that he’s barely repudiated if at all.<br>
    2) He’s currently being sued for massively defrauding students at his non-accredited “University.”

    My personal hope would be that either of those two facts alone would discredit Trump as a legitimate choice among voters of either party.

    I’m also amazed and horrified that he still has minority supporters, given his eagerness to exploit racist and jingoistic rhetoric.

    The KKK (DAVID DUKE) is pointless and a media attempt at killing his chances. They did that with Ron Paul as well. It’s pointless, the KKK isn’t even a legitimate organization, and just because one guy who used to be associated w/ the organization doesn’t mean he represents the organization. In fact, it’s so stupid, I’m not sure how you can seriously bring up this issue. He also denounced him countless times. If David Duke really supported socialism, and thus endorsed your boy Bernie, would Bernie be completely unelectable? It’s just sooooooo anti-intellectual to bring this up.

    His university was fine. There is a recent attempt by nearly anyone who attended a for-profit university to receive their tuition back, based on the FIRST EVER case of this being accomplished in the past year or so with the Department of Education. I forget the university, but it opened the flood gates for claims – which are mostly just people mad that they are in debt for their own poor choices or performance.

    *AGAIN, I doubt I’m voting for Trump, I’ve always voted third party. But wow. Come up with legitimate reasons.

    #1116899

    jbcmh81
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    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>ImNotaStar wrote:</div>
    I could never vote Dem, my household earns too much.

    Please tell me more about this. I wish my awesome eye roll gif was working…

    Have you heard he’s moving to New York? I hear important people go there.

    #1116900

    jbcmh81
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    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>RedStorm wrote:</div>
    Personally…there’s no candidate I really want to get behind. If it does come down to Clinton and Trump, I’d think long and hard about a 3rd party candidate vote. Trump is the only person I’m 100% sure not voting for – still deciding about others as the field narrows.

    In first-past-the-post voting, voting for a 3rd party candidate is effectively voting for the candidate most ideologically opposed to you. If you lean Clinton in a Clinton/Trump election and vote for, say, Bloomberg, then you have effectively cast a vote for Trump.

    While it is everyone’s right to vote for whomever they think is best, including going 3rd party, it is always disheartening and frustrating to see people do this when every single election is so important to the nation’s future. This one in particular may be the most important in decades, especially with the Supreme Court vacancy (and potentially more coming in the next administration). Voting 3rd party to basically feel all smugly satisfied that you’re totally anti-establishment is playing Russian roulette with everyone’s future, both inside and outside of America’s borders. Yes, picking the lesser of two evils may not be as glamorous and you may not be able to brag about how much of a rebel you are to your friends on Facebook, but sometimes you just have to hold your nose and do what’s responsible.

    #1116904
    Snarf
    Snarf
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    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>RedStorm wrote:</div>
    Personally…there’s no candidate I really want to get behind. If it does come down to Clinton and Trump, I’d think long and hard about a 3rd party candidate vote. Trump is the only person I’m 100% sure not voting for – still deciding about others as the field narrows.

    In first-past-the-post voting, voting for a 3rd party candidate is effectively voting for the candidate most ideologically opposed to you. If you lean Clinton in a Clinton/Trump election and vote for, say, Bloomberg, then you have effectively cast a vote for Trump.

    Oh well, I’ll view it as a fuck you to the corrupt DNC for shoving Lady Koch down our throats.

    All these overly liberal folks pasting articles about the implications of NOT voting for Hillary. How about a discussion on the implications of voting FOR Hillary. Yay, war, yay status quo?

    #1116908

    Alex Silbajoris
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    I say Cruz disqualifies himself by saying he is a Christian before being an American. Try running for President while making a claim like that with any other religion in the world.

    #1116909

    ImNotaStar
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    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mbeaumont wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>ImNotaStar wrote:</div><br>
    I could never vote Dem, my household earns too much.

    Please tell me more about this. I wish my awesome eye roll gif was working…

    Have you heard he’s moving to New York? I hear important people go there.

    They surely don’t sit in Ohio.

    #1116917
    Ned23
    Ned23
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    But we’re cool with a candidate linked to four federal investigations? Or does that not count towards discrediting a candidate?

    Most people don’t believe the investigations are serious at this point. They’ve been droning on about the stuff for years and they haven’t even found enough put together a Grand Jury yet. They’ve become background noise in the internet in no small part because all of the shares are from bizzaro crackpot news sites in the whole “Do you believe what you see on the internet?” phenomenon.

    #1116920
    Posole
    Posole
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    Do either of these two facts bother you?

    1) He’s endorsed by the KKK, an endorsement that he’s barely repudiated if at all…

    You know I honestly don’t think Trump is a racist at all. I think he’s perfectly willing to lie to the KKK to sucker their votes and then tell them to jump in a lake once he’s elected. He’s a classic capitalist. I *am* less sure about his Islamophobia, tho.

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