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  • #1083767
    Coremodels
    Coremodels
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    So these videos though horrible do not add up to statistical problem. No data means that no one knows what they are talking about in a macro sense.

    Trying to further inflame and drive a bigger wedge between the police and kids in troubled neighborhoods is sad. 1/3 of murders are never solved because of the divide between the police and people in the hood.

    1. Justifying police brutality with black on black crime is ridiculous. One thing has nothing to do with the other.

    2. Police brutality is a statistical problem. Let’s look at Baltimore, where they’ve paid out over 5 million dollars in the last 4 years…spread over 100 different cases…and those were just the cases they lost. That’s a problem.

    3. Racism in both law enforcement and our judicial system are quantifiable. We know this, because the DOJ reports on Ferguson, Baltimore, Cleveland, and many more cities actually quantifies it.

    Quit trying to tell people there is no problem just because you aren’t experiencing it.

    #1083776

    Cbussmallbiz
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    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Cbussmallbiz wrote:</div>
    So these videos though horrible do not add up to statistical problem. No data means that no one knows what they are talking about in a macro sense.

    Trying to further inflame and drive a bigger wedge between the police and kids in troubled neighborhoods is sad. 1/3 of murders are never solved because of the divide between the police and people in the hood.

    1. Justifying police brutality with black on black crime is ridiculous. One thing has nothing to do with the other.

    2. Police brutality is a statistical problem. Let’s look at Baltimore, where they’ve paid out over 5 million dollars in the last 4 years…spread over 100 different cases…and those were just the cases they lost. That’s a problem.

    3. Racism in both law enforcement and our judicial system are quantifiable. We know this, because the DOJ reports on Ferguson, Baltimore, Cleveland, and many more cities actually quantifies it.

    Quit trying to tell people there is no problem just because you aren’t experiencing it.

    Core you are a demonstrable FOOL. You don’t know my experiences all you do is project your crap onto other
    people. So again there is no data showing an increase in police murders because it is purposefully not tracked (not good). Maybe you should listen to our great public radio station once in a while or perhaps subscribe to newspapers or a good source would be real clear policy or real clear politics. Why do you want things to stay the same for kids in poor neighbor hoods you big dummy!

    #1083796
    Chris Sunami
    Chris Sunami
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    @Cbussmallbiz, if you listen carefully to the song with the video I posted, you’ll note that black-on-black crime is in fact one of the issues it addresses.

    With that said –as Core noted –police brutality (both racially and non-racially motivated), while far from universal, is (a) a documented, statistically significant reality in many places and (b) demanding of special attention because it represents an abuse of the legitimate power and authority of the government –something that not only hurts its immediate victims, but that additionally threatens the entire social contract.

    #1083812
    DC
    DC
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    Trying to further inflame and drive a bigger wedge between the police and kids in troubled neighborhoods is sad. 1/3 of murders are never solved because of the divide between the police and people in the hood.

    So you are claiming that folks advocating justice on website forums are in some way responsible for the divide between police and people in the hood?

    You may need to dig just a little deeper on that one. Let’s look at history for starters:

    http://plsonline.eku.edu/insidelook/brief-history-slavery-and-origins-american-policing

    http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/04/police-originated-from-slave-catching-patrols/

    #1083838

    Cbussmallbiz
    Participant

    Yes we should get ride of these racist vestiges of the slave owning past of America. No police. No Jail for criminals if they are black or what ever the new victim class is. You do not believe we are a society that is worthy of anything because of the past. Again these narratives are not helping black kids. Its a bunch of white quilt from racist liberals who project weakness on black people. As to the Social Contract Chris alludes to it doesn’t exist for kids in South Linden. There is no contract. They sure as hell aren’t hiding from police bullets they are hiding from their peers bullets. The violence and degradation forced upon these kids every day comes from their own families and their own neighbors. (stitches for snitches) They need safe streets PERIOD! No one is better off in Baltimore after the riots except for the 24 hour news channels and race hustling talking heads.

    #1085302

    News
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    Black woman pulled over while driving to her new job, found dead in Texas jail
    BY COLIN DAILEDA

    Sandra Bland, a 28-year-old black woman driving from her old home near Chicago to a new job at her alma mater in Texas, never made it. Texas Department of Public Safety officers arrested her after they pulled her over for allegedly signaling a lane change improperly. She wound up on the ground, hands cuffed behind her back. That was Friday, July 10. On Monday, she was found dead in her Waller County jail cell. Her death is under investigation.

    READ MORE: http://mashable.com/2015/07/16/sandra-bland-death-texas-jail

    #1085306

    WJT
    Participant

    Black woman pulled over while driving to her new job, found dead in Texas jail<br>
    BY COLIN DAILEDA

    Sandra Bland, a 28-year-old black woman driving from her old home near Chicago to a new job at her alma mater in Texas, never made it. Texas Department of Public Safety officers arrested her after they pulled her over for allegedly signaling a lane change improperly. She wound up on the ground, hands cuffed behind her back. That was Friday, July 10. On Monday, she was found dead in her Waller County jail cell. Her death is under investigation.<br>
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    READ MORE: http://mashable.com/2015/07/16/sandra-bland-death-texas-jail

    Well I certainly don’t know all of the details, but this is HORRIBLE! Why would she kill herself when she is starting a new job? And the cops should know better than to tell someone to stop recording-it just makes them look hella suspect when they do that.

    #1085854
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
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    #1087119

    News
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    University of Cincinnati Cop Charged With Murder
    By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS • 2 HOURS AGO

    A University of Cincinnati police officer who shot a motorist during a traffic stop over a missing front license plate has been indicted on murder charges. Hamilton County’s prosecutor says Wednesday that the grand jury indicted Officer Ray Tensing on a charge of murder in the shooting of 43-year-old Samuel DuBose.

    READ MORE: http://radio.wosu.org/post/university-cincinnati-cop-charged-murder

    #1087120

    News
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    TUE JUL 28, 2015 AT 07:03 AM PDT
    The video of police killing of Sam Dubose is apparently so bad, Cincinnati is preparing for riots
    by Shaun King

    After a routine traffic stop by a University of Cincinnati Police Officer, Sam Dubose ended up dead with his face blown off. The officer was wearing a body camera, but the city refuses to release the video. In the meantime, everybody who sees it is deeply disturbed, including the city wide police chief.

    READ MORE: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/28/1406408/-The-video-of-the-police-murder-of-Sam-Dubose-is-apparently-so-bad-Cincinnati-is-preparing-for-riots

    #1087130

    WJT
    Participant

    The video is up, and it is bad. The guy starts to shut his car door and the officer appears to reach in to struggle with him, and then just shoots him in the head. The car was not even moving until after the guy was shot-it appears a reflex reaction cause his foot to hit the accelerator after being shot and the car zooms off with the guy already dead in it. Ugh.

    Hopefully the indictment will help prevent any civil disorder.

    #1087159

    Nancy H
    Participant

    The video is up, and it is bad. The guy starts to shut his car door and the officer appears to reach in to struggle with him, and then just shoots him in the head. The car was not even moving until after the guy was shot-it appears a reflex reaction cause his foot to hit the accelerator after being shot and the car zooms off with the guy already dead in it.

    That was not a reflex reaction to start the car rolling. The police ALWAYS make you shut off the engine when you are pulled over.

    Officer Ray Tensing was indicted for murder this afternoon.

    I just watched the video for the sixth time.

    19 seconds into the video, Dubose turns the engine off and uses the key to unlock the glove compartment. I assume to look for his driver’s license and/or registration. He relocked the glove compartment and put the key back in the ignition.

    40 seconds into the video, he hands Tensing a pint of Gin that was on the floor on the driver’s side.

    One minute and ten seconds pass. During this time I assume Tensing is trying to get Dubose to produce a driver’s license, registration and proof of insurance. Meanwhile Dubose is checking various places where those things might be.

    At 150 seconds into the video, Dubose very clearly puts his left hand over the lock on the door while using his right hand to start the engine.

    The next few seconds are unclear (at least to me). I can’t tell if the car started to move before or after the gun fired. Tensing obviously doesn’t even know he killed Dubose. He still has his weapon drawn when he catches up to the car where it came to a stop further down the street.

    Tensing is a University of Cincinnati officer, not a City of Cincinnati officer. Since nobody has mentioned it, it sounds like the UC patrol cars do not have video cameras the way most State Highway Patrol and City patrol cars do.

    #1087190

    jackoh
    Participant

    I have one question in regard to all of these incidents and the various takes on them. How is it that in the United States of America a traffic stop for a very minor infraction can get you killed by an officer of the state?

    #1087204

    WJT
    Participant

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>WJT wrote:</div>
    The video is up, and it is bad. The guy starts to shut his car door and the officer appears to reach in to struggle with him, and then just shoots him in the head. The car was not even moving until after the guy was shot-it appears a reflex reaction cause his foot to hit the accelerator after being shot and the car zooms off with the guy already dead in it.

    That was not a reflex reaction to start the car rolling. The police ALWAYS make you shut off the engine when you are pulled over.

    Officer Ray Tensing was indicted for murder this afternoon.

    I just watched the video for the sixth time.

    19 seconds into the video, Dubose turns the engine off and uses the key to unlock the glove compartment. I assume to look for his driver’s license and/or registration. He relocked the glove compartment and put the key back in the ignition.

    40 seconds into the video, he hands Tensing a pint of Gin that was on the floor on the driver’s side.

    One minute and ten seconds pass. During this time I assume Tensing is trying to get Dubose to produce a driver’s license, registration and proof of insurance. Meanwhile Dubose is checking various places where those things might be.

    At 150 seconds into the video, Dubose very clearly puts his left hand over the lock on the door while using his right hand to start the engine.

    The next few seconds are unclear (at least to me). I can’t tell if the car started to move before or after the gun fired. Tensing obviously doesn’t even know he killed Dubose. He still has his weapon drawn when he catches up to the car where it came to a stop further down the street.

    Tensing is a University of Cincinnati officer, not a City of Cincinnati officer. Since nobody has mentioned it, it sounds like the UC patrol cars do not have video cameras the way most State Highway Patrol and City patrol cars do.

    Bullshit-you say ‘while using his right hand to start the engine.’ So he started the car, got shot, and the car took off. If you can’t tell if the car started to move before or after(as you say) then how the hell can you say what I said was wrong?

    You called it the way you saw it, I called it the way I saw it. The man’s face was blown off and he was killed instantly. Also when is it policy to drop you weapon after you have shot someone? Damn!

    Another officer may be indicted in the coverup as well(you know, how he was dragged for his life and all-another cop lied about it also).

    And the man’s name was Samuel Dubose. You saw fit to introduce “Officer Ray Tensing”…but the one murdered was not just a statistic-he was a human being with a full name too….’Dubose’…his name was Samuel Dubose.

    #1087205
    Snarf
    Snarf
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    As with politicians, “those most qualified aren’t interested,” often rings true with these thugs we pay to wear a badge and protect us.

    What a pussy that officer is – he’ll have a good time in prison.

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