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Federal Government Tracking all U.S. Verizon Calls for 3 Months

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    Going Courtless
    The NSA searches its mass database of phone records without real judicial oversight. That’s unacceptable.







    Here’s how the House of Representatives vote went down on the Amash Amendment, an effort to curtail NSA data gathering. A “No” vote is in favor of current guidelines.

    Chabot – Yes
    Fudge – Yes
    Johnson – Yes
    Jordan – Yes

    Boehner – No
    Gibbs – No
    Joyce – No
    Kaptur – No
    Latta – No
    Renacci – No
    Ryan – No
    Stivers – No
    Tiberi – No
    Turner – No
    Wenstrup – No

    Beatty – DNV


    Mister Shifter

    Mister Shifter said:
    Great article from The Atlantic today regarding US Surveillance.


    By observing Obama’s condescension, I don’t mean to suggest tone was the most objectionable part of the speech. The disinformation should bother the American people most. The weasel words. The impossible-to-believe protestations. The factually inaccurate assertions.

    They’re all there.



    Apparently the NSA was spying on everybody.

    The National Security Agency monitored the phone conversations of 35 world leaders after being given the numbers by an official in another US government department, according to a classified document provided by whistleblower Edward Snowden.

    The confidential memo reveals that the NSA encourages senior officials in its “customer” departments, such the White House, State and the Pentagon, to share their “Rolodexes” so the agency can add the phone numbers of leading foreign politicians to their surveillance systems.

    The document notes that one unnamed US official handed over 200 numbers, including those of the 35 world leaders, none of whom is named. These were immediately “tasked” for monitoring by the NSA.

    The revelation is set to add to mounting diplomatic tensions between the US and its allies, after the German chancellor Angela Merkel on Wednesday accused the US of tapping her mobile phone.

    After Merkel’s allegations became public, White House press secretary Jay Carney issued a statement that said the US “is not monitoring and will not monitor” the German chancellor’s communications. But that failed to quell the row, as officials in Berlin quickly pointed out that the US did not deny monitoring the phone in the past.

    The NSA memo obtained by the Guardian suggests that such surveillance was not isolated, as the agency routinely monitors the phone numbers of world leaders – and even asks for the assistance of other US officials to do so.

    It will be interesting if this drip drip drip of NSA leaks keeps going until the midterms.



    Germany has become the latest government to demand answers from the United States about NSA spying after reports the U.S. may have monitored the cell phone of Chancellor Angela Merkel.

    On Wednesday, Merkel placed a call to President Barack Obama to request “immediate clarification” on U.S. surveillance, according to her spokesman, who said the German government had obtained information about the possible tap into Merkel’s phone.

    According to White House spokesman Jay Carney, Obama assured Merkel that the United States “is not monitoring and will not monitor her communications,” although he fell short of disclosing any past practices.

    “The United States greatly values our close cooperation with Germany on a broad range of shared security challenges,” a White House statement said. “As the President has said, the United States is reviewing the way that we gather intelligence to ensure that we properly balance the security concerns of our citizens and allies with the privacy concerns that all people share.”

    It did not appear, however, that the German government was fully satisfied with the response and Merkel issued a strongly worded statement through her spokesman:

    “She made clear that she views such practices, if proven true, as completely unacceptable and condemns them unequivocally.”

    Italy seems to be the latest one, though.


    ROME, Oct 24 (Reuters) – U.S. and British intelligence services have monitored Italian telecoms networks, targeting the government and companies as well as suspected terrorist groups, Italian weekly L’Espresso reported on Thursday.

    The report, based on evidence from former U.S. intelligence operative-turned whistleblower Edward Snowden, is likely to fuel growing anger among Washington’s European allies over the activities of the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA).

    “The NSA has many spying operations, also on European governments and including the Italian government,” journalist Glenn Greenwald, who first published documents leaked by Snowden, told L’Espresso in a preview of an article due to be published in full on Friday.

    The summary issued on Thursday did not contain specific evidence but said documents held by Snowden “contain a great deal of information on the control of Italian telecommunications which will be released in the next few weeks”.



    It strikes me that listening to Berlusconi’s phone conversations would be far more interesting than listening to Merkel’s.


    jackoh said:
    It strikes me that listening to Berlusconi’s phone conversations would be far more interesting than listening to Merkel’s.



    Barack Obama ‘approved tapping Angela Merkel’s phone 3 years ago’

    President Barack Obama was told about monitoring of German Chancellor in 2010 and allowed it to continue, says German newspaper

    President Barack Obama was dragged into the trans-Atlantic spying row after it was claimed he personally authorised the monitoring of Angela Merkel’s phone three years ago.

    The president allegedly allowed US intelligence to listen to calls from the German Chancellor’s mobile phone after he was briefed on the operation by Keith Alexander, director of the National Security Agency (NSA), in 2010.

    The latest claim, reported in the German newspaper Bild am Sonntag, followed reports in Der Spiegel that the surveillance of Mrs Merkel’s phone began as long ago as 2002, when she was still the opposition leader, three years before being elected Chancellor. That monitoring only ended in the weeks before Mr Obama visited Berlin in June this year, the magazine added.

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