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CMAX - Cleveland Avenue Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) - News & Updates

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  • #471771

    johnwirtz
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    MHJ said:
    Am I the only one who finds it completely inexplicable that this Cleveland Ave BRT line would stop at the Ohio Health Westerville Campus instead of jogging 3 miles to the west and stopping at Polaris? That defies logic to me. I understand that the medical center is a job center, but so is Polaris.

    I assume it’s related to operating costs to provide a 3 mile extension. Cost will be related to the the number of service hours, which is determined by bus speed and frequency.

    Speed-related: (6 miles per bus trip)/ (15 mph average bus speed) = 0.4 hours per bus trip

    Frequency-related: [(2 buses/hour)*(14 hours/weekday)*(251 weekdays/year)]+[(1 bus/hour)*(12 hours/weekend-holiday)*(114 days/year)] = 7028 + 1368 = 8396 trips per year

    (8396 trips/year)*(0.4 service hours/trip) = 3,358.4 service hours per year

    (3,358.4 service hours per year)*($109.58 per service hour)= $368 K per year

    I’m not sure what the ridership would be, but I’m guessing that’s fairly expensive compared to the number of new riders they might get.

    #471772

    johnwirtz
    Participant

    Eugene_C said:
    I would wonder about the Chase/Bank One center in the area though. That seems like the kind of thing that could anchor one end of a route.

    I also think this would be a good place to serve. Maybe a #2 extension or a new route connecting to the #2 and the express routes at the Crosswoods.

    #471773

    johnwirtz
    Participant

    NerosNeptune said:
    It still just baffles me that this line, which isn’t even actually BRT, and as far as I can tell will require no road-changes or major construction, isn’t expected to open until 2017.

    Federal funding slows down the process a lot.

    #471774

    bjones7
    Participant

    johnwirtz said:
    I also think this would be a good place to serve. Maybe a #2 extension or a new route connecting to the #2 and the express routes at the Crosswoods.

    Are you talking about the purposed “all day #31 express route” ?

    #471775

    johnwirtz
    Participant

    bjones7 said:
    Are you talking about the purposed “all day #31 express route” ?

    I meant the existing #31 and #32 express routes, but an all day #31 sounds like a good idea.

    #471776

    heresthecasey
    Participant

    For those interested, there is an upcoming public meeting regarding this project,

    Everyone is invited to learn more about the proposed BRT project.

    Public Open House
    Thursday, February 27, 2014
    5:30-7:30 p.m. (presentation at 6:00 p.m.)

    Columbus Baptist Temple Church
    5075 Cleveland Ave.
    Columbus, OH 43231

    COTA Line 1 Cleveland Local serves this facility.

    For questions, comments or concerns about the project, or to be added to our mailing list for project updates, email us at [email protected].

    More here, http://www.cota.com/Cleveland_Ave_BRT.aspx

    #951063

    heresthecasey
    Participant

    COTA recently posted this video update of the project on YouTube. It contains some more details and renderings of particular amenities to be included at specific bus stops along the route,

    #951554

    jbcmh81
    Participant

    Meh, without dedicated lanes and priority signaling, this is still just a regular bus with a bit nicer stops.

    #951656

    heresthecasey
    Participant

    Meh, without dedicated lanes and priority signaling, this is still just a regular bus with a bit nicer stops.

    I agree that it’s being significantly oversold as “rapid transit,” but the upgrades nonetheless will be a welcome improvement to bus service in the corridor.

    #960286
    Caleb
    Caleb
    Participant

    Meh, without dedicated lanes and priority signaling, this is still just a regular bus with a bit nicer stops.

    It will have priority signaling.

    #971595

    Achekov
    Participant

    Meh, without dedicated lanes and priority signaling, this is still just a regular bus with a bit nicer stops.

    That was my first thought. Being on a regulars street it is no faster than a normal bus because it’s stuck in the same traffic as everyone else.

    #972339

    jbcmh81
    Participant

    That was my first thought. Being on a regulars street it is no faster than a normal bus because it’s stuck in the same traffic as everyone else.

    Yep. Even with priority signaling, without dedicated lanes, what prevents these buses from getting stuck in traffic? Priority signaling doesn’t mean anything if the bus is behind another 20 cars.

    56 minutes from Downtown to Westerville seems very slow to me. Perhaps better than a standard bus, but it doesn’t scream the type of speed that BRT is supposed to be about.

    #1030934

    heresthecasey
    Participant

    Apparently COTA is considering several (quite ghastly) 1990s-era WordArt options, with which to brand our new BRT service,

    http://www.cota.com/BRTpresentations.aspx

    #1030945
    Josh Lapp
    Josh Lapp
    Participant

    Apparently COTA is considering several (quite ghastly) 1990s-era WordArt options, with which to brand our new BRT service,

    http://www.cota.com/BRTpresentations.aspx

    Kansas City MAX Brt was the model for this line according to COTA’s planning documents. Apparently the model for the branding too.

    Columbus creative community PLEASE HELP! I see great branding coming out for all kinds of things, perhaps someone can mock something up to show us what it could be? An artist/branding contest for this by COTA would be great.

    #1030958

    jbcmh81
    Participant

    Given that it’ll barely be BRT at all, it’s hard to get offended by the branding.

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