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  • #362854

    Alex Silbajoris
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    As you get older, you don’t bother to roll down your tinted SUV window before you honk the horn.

    #362855

    berry
    Member

    GW_Justice wrote >>
    As you grow older, you get more conservative and that rebellion becomes exhausting and annoying. So you move back to be with people who may not challenge you – but at least they aren’t in your face.

    Maybe I am just the exception that proves the rule – but personally, I think I am getting less conservative as I grow older…

    #362856

    lifeontwowheels
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    GW_Justice wrote >>
    Just to elaborate on the “nice” factor – age is a big part of it too.
    Young kids are trained to be nice here, and for the most part follow along. Then as young adults they rebel and get sick of the nice, and the “certain sense of cynicism, skepticism, and free thinking” becomes important. A lot of them move away to experience life outside the midwest nice bubble.
    As you grow older, you get more conservative and that rebellion becomes exhausting and annoying. So you move back to be with people who may not challenge you – but at least they aren’t in your face.

    You haven’t met my preschool kids…

    #362857

    GW_Justice
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    berry wrote
    Maybe I am just the exception that proves the rule – but personally, I think I am getting less conservative as I grow older…

    I’m with you on the feeling that I have not moved more to the conservative side, but House/Family/Career/Taxes changes the priorities. And since the center of conservative has shifted way right, there is nothing that makes me feel connected to those people.

    #362858

    LBOWACC
    Member

    Andrew Hall wrote >>

    joev wrote >>

    Sandersen wrote >> That’s a great clarification. To assume that anyone is arrogant, an asshole, or both, requires an inherent belief that you yourself are not any of those things (for the most part, apart from the Gordon Gecko crowd). And if the Midwest as a general body believes that they have an excellent bullshit detector they can deploy on any victim they deem an asshole…it begs the question: What fucking basis does the Midwest (or anyone) have to claim divining status like that?

    I can tell if a person is an asshole by watching how they treat other people. It’s easy. Someone who treats others like shit when he or she can get away with it is an asshole.

    Your version is anodyne.
    The problem is that Midwesterners – as a general rule – have over-sensitivities (compared to others) as to what constitutes treating like shit. That subjectivity is the real rub which constitutes the subject, not examples of assholery which would be universal.
    A.

    +1 so true

    #362859
    alove
    alove
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    I think you can find nice and mean people in any city and that’s certainly the case here. I have met some amazing, open-minded, lively people from Columbus. I have also encountered A LOT of hate from strangers… Despite our increasing diversity people still think it’s okay to push their beliefs onto others.

    #362860

    joev
    Participant

    Andrew Hall wrote >>

    joev wrote >>

    Sandersen wrote >> That’s a great clarification. To assume that anyone is arrogant, an asshole, or both, requires an inherent belief that you yourself are not any of those things (for the most part, apart from the Gordon Gecko crowd). And if the Midwest as a general body believes that they have an excellent bullshit detector they can deploy on any victim they deem an asshole…it begs the question: What fucking basis does the Midwest (or anyone) have to claim divining status like that?

    I can tell if a person is an asshole by watching how they treat other people. It’s easy. Someone who treats others like shit when he or she can get away with it is an asshole.

    Your version is anodyne.
    The problem is that Midwesterners – as a general rule – have over-sensitivities (compared to others) as to what constitutes treating like shit. That subjectivity is the real rub which constitutes the subject, not examples of assholery which would be universal.
    A.

    I don’t buy this one bit. When I see someone being an asshole, the problem is not with me or my alleged insecurities. It’s with the asshole. I and ever other person who hasn’t been raised by wolves is qualified to make this distinction.

    #362861

    Sandersen
    Member

    I don’t buy this one bit. When I see someone being an asshole, the problem is not with me or my alleged insecurities. It’s with the asshole. I and ever other person who hasn’t been raised by wolves is qualified to make this distinction.

    It doesn’t matter if you don’t buy it because you’re not a legitimate source to be making that claim.

    Think about it this way: let’s say someone holds the exact same opinion you do about pointing out assholes…..but they think that you’re an asshole. Would you give them authority to make that declaration?

    You wouldn’t. That’s why people who hold the opinion you do generally tend to prefer the company of like-minded people (i.e. “The Midwest”), because it’s not just you making the judgment call, it’s you and all your friends.

    And for the record I’m not saying that you are a groupthinker etc. I’m just pointing out that your argument is kind of flawed.

    #362862

    joev
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    Sandersen wrote >>
    I don’t buy this one bit. When I see someone being an asshole, the problem is not with me or my alleged insecurities. It’s with the asshole. I and ever other person who hasn’t been raised by wolves is qualified to make this distinction.
    It doesn’t matter if you don’t buy it because you’re not a legitimate source to be making that claim.
    Think about it this way: let’s say someone holds the exact same opinion you do about pointing out assholes…..but they think that you’re an asshole. Would you give them authority to make that declaration?
    You wouldn’t. That’s why people who hold the opinion you do generally tend to prefer the company of like-minded people (i.e. “The Midwest”), because it’s not just you making the judgment call, it’s you and all your friends.
    And for the record I’m not saying that you are a groupthinker etc. I’m just pointing out that your argument is kind of flawed.

    If someone thinks I’m an asshole, of course I’d give them the authority to make that decision. It’s every person’s individual decision. But our society creates most of the norms for people to make the decision, and we’re all aware that we have to live with the consequences if we’re identified as an asshole.

    #362863

    lisathewaitress
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    joev wrote
    I don’t buy this one bit. When I see someone being an asshole, the problem is not with me or my alleged insecurities. It’s with the asshole. I and ever other person who hasn’t been raised by wolves is qualified to make this distinction.

    i totally agree. an asshole = asshole. doesn’t matter who is making the judgement. i think the difference is that some people don’t mind hanging out with assholes, which is why they are most always in groups. wearing ed hardy shirts.

    seems funny that everyone is giving the assholes the benefit of the doubt here by saying those who can’t stand them are part of an insecure group who can’t handle others being mean.

    #362864
    rus
    rus
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    Sandersen wrote >>

    I don’t buy this one bit. When I see someone being an asshole, the problem is not with me or my alleged insecurities. It’s with the asshole. I and ever other person who hasn’t been raised by wolves is qualified to make this distinction.

    It doesn’t matter if you don’t buy it because you’re not a legitimate source to be making that claim.
    Think about it this way: let’s say someone holds the exact same opinion you do about pointing out assholes…..but they think that you’re an asshole. Would you give them authority to make that declaration?
    You wouldn’t. That’s why people who hold the opinion you do generally tend to prefer the company of like-minded people (i.e. “The Midwest”), because it’s not just you making the judgment call, it’s you and all your friends.
    And for the record I’m not saying that you are a groupthinker etc. I’m just pointing out that your argument is kind of flawed.

    Think it’s safe to say most people generally prefer the company of those they’re comfortable with. Not always, of course, but generally.

    The “raised by wolves” comment reminds me of the no true scotsman fallacy; in other words, no one in “my” group would be an asshole.. so anyone who is an asshole can’t be “my” group. They have to have been “raised by wolves”.

    #362865

    joev
    Participant

    rus wrote >>

    Sandersen wrote >>

    I don’t buy this one bit. When I see someone being an asshole, the problem is not with me or my alleged insecurities. It’s with the asshole. I and ever other person who hasn’t been raised by wolves is qualified to make this distinction.

    It doesn’t matter if you don’t buy it because you’re not a legitimate source to be making that claim.
    Think about it this way: let’s say someone holds the exact same opinion you do about pointing out assholes…..but they think that you’re an asshole. Would you give them authority to make that declaration?
    You wouldn’t. That’s why people who hold the opinion you do generally tend to prefer the company of like-minded people (i.e. “The Midwest”), because it’s not just you making the judgment call, it’s you and all your friends.
    And for the record I’m not saying that you are a groupthinker etc. I’m just pointing out that your argument is kind of flawed.

    Think it’s safe to say most people generally prefer the company of those they’re comfortable with. Not always, of course, but generally.
    The “raised by wolves” comment reminds me of the no true scotsman fallacy; in other words, no one in “my” group would be an asshole.. so anyone who is an asshole can’t be “my” group. They have to have been “raised by wolves”.

    Believe me, even an asshole can tell when someone else is being an asshole.

    #362866
    rus
    rus
    Participant

    joev wrote >>

    rus wrote >>

    Sandersen wrote >>

    I don’t buy this one bit. When I see someone being an asshole, the problem is not with me or my alleged insecurities. It’s with the asshole. I and ever other person who hasn’t been raised by wolves is qualified to make this distinction.

    It doesn’t matter if you don’t buy it because you’re not a legitimate source to be making that claim.
    Think about it this way: let’s say someone holds the exact same opinion you do about pointing out assholes…..but they think that you’re an asshole. Would you give them authority to make that declaration?
    You wouldn’t. That’s why people who hold the opinion you do generally tend to prefer the company of like-minded people (i.e. “The Midwest”), because it’s not just you making the judgment call, it’s you and all your friends.
    And for the record I’m not saying that you are a groupthinker etc. I’m just pointing out that your argument is kind of flawed.

    Think it’s safe to say most people generally prefer the company of those they’re comfortable with. Not always, of course, but generally.
    The “raised by wolves” comment reminds me of the no true scotsman fallacy; in other words, no one in “my” group would be an asshole.. so anyone who is an asshole can’t be “my” group. They have to have been “raised by wolves”.

    Believe me, even an asshole can tell when someone else is being an asshole.

    Even if they were raised by wolves? ;)

    #362867

    joev
    Participant

    rus wrote >>
    Even if they were raised by wolves? ;)

    We all know the last person raised by wolves was Remus.

    #362868
    rus
    rus
    Participant

    joev wrote >>

    rus wrote >>
    Even if they were raised by wolves? ;)

    We all know the last person raised by wolves was Remus.

    So… assholes are killed so their brother can found a city? ;)

    OK, might have just tied that metaphor in knots ;)

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