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Average Gas Mileage Regulations Set to 54.5MPG by 2025

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  • #93476

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    Fuel Efficiency Standards: Obama Administration Finalizes New Regulations For Cars And Trucks

    AP | By TOM KRISHER

    Posted: 08/28/2012 12:07 pm

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The average gas mileage of new cars and trucks will have to nearly double by 2025 under regulations that were finalized Tuesday by the Obama administration.

    The new rules will require the fleet of new cars and trucks to average 54.5 miles per gallon in 13 years, up from 28.6 mpg at the end of last year.

    The regulations will bring dramatic changes to the cars and trucks in U.S. showrooms and drive automakers to introduce new technology to make vehicles cleaner and more efficient.

    READ MORE: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/28/new-mileage-standards-obama_n_1836546.html

    #511603

    Anonymous
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    From the article;
    “In the arcane world of government regulations, the rules don’t mean that cars and trucks will average 54.5 mpg in 13 years. It’s actually closer to 40 mpg in real-world driving.”

    The Prius got about 54 mpg round trip to Cedar Point a couple weekends ago. A little better than it’s 52 mpg average. It’s hard to imagine a fleet average of 40 mpg if minivans and SUVs are included.

    #511604

    Analogue Kid
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    0Angle said:
    It’s hard to imagine a fleet average of 40 mpg if minivans and SUVs are included.

    What do you mean? Super efficient SUVs do exist, see the Ford Escape Hybrid which would definitely comply with the new standards.

    #511605

    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Well Howzabout that. I saw a reference on the googles of 47 mpg. Haven’t heard of anything comparable. In the year 2000, we towed a Four Runner through the Doo Dah parade with bicycles and I don’t think it even got that kinda mileage.

    #511606

    GCrites80s
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    They’ll be able to figure it out. If they can get 300 horsepower out of average V6s today, they can get that kind of mileage years from now. They will have to take 1000 pounds out of the average vehicle to do it. And maybe normal people will have to admit that they don’t do 13-second quarter miles everywhere they go.

    #511607

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    Rising Fuel Economy Standards and Their Potential Transportation Funding Impacts
    Posted September 17, 2012

    Newly passed fuel economy standards that will help reduce oil consumption will negatively affect the amount of motor fuel tax (MFT) revenues available to fund transportation projects in the future, highlighting the need for better ways to fund improvements.

    On August 28, 2012, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) issued a rule finalizing higher fuel economy standards for passenger vehicles and light duty trucks. Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards in this rule, together with projected U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (U.S. EPA) standards for carbon dioxide emissions, set the stage for a reduction in carbon dioxide emissions equivalent to 54.5 miles per gallon (MPG) for passenger cars by model year 2025.

    READ MORE: http://sustainablecitiescollective.com/chicago-metropolitan-agency-planning/66301/rising-fuel-economy-standards-and-their-potential-transpo

    #511608

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    Fuel economy of cars sold in October at record level
    By Jerry Hirsch
    November 6, 2012, 9:48 a.m.

    Americans continue to look for fuel-efficient vehicles when they go car shopping. The average fuel economy – what is on the window sticker of a new car — of new vehicles sold in the U.S. in October was 24.1 mpg — the highest level yet. It was up 4 mpg, or 20%, from October 2007, according to the University of Michigan Transportation Research Institute.

    READ MORE: http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-mo-autos-fuel-economy-hyundai-20121106,0,6450141.story

    #511609

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    Fuel efficiency for US vehicles steadily improving
    By Bill Vlasic | NEW YORK TIMES SEPTEMBER 11, 2013

    DETROIT — The average fuel economy of new vehicles sold in the United States hit a new high of 24.9 miles per gallon in August, according to a University of Michigan study released Tuesday.

    The results indicate that automakers are producing more fuel-efficient models and consumers are continuing a trend of buying vehicles that use less gasoline. The industry is not only producing more hybrid and electric vehicles but also reducing the fuel consumption of traditional gas-guzzlers, like pickups and large SUVs.

    READ MORE: http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2013/09/10/fuel-economy-hits-six-year-high/sjJfAcgbbyTdkvVqNq7DwI/story.html

    #511610

    GCrites80s
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    Full size trucks aren’t getting any better. If you threw the V6 engine from a new truck into an ’80s truck you’d probably get 35 mpg but the new trucks have gotten so fat that they still get the same 15-20 mpg (in practice, not just some number you got by Googling) they always have.

    #511611

    Analogue Kid
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    GCrites80s said:
    Full size trucks aren’t getting any better. If you threw the V6 engine from a new truck into an ’80s truck you’d probably get 35 mpg but the new trucks have gotten so fat that they still get the same 15-20 mpg (in practice, not just some number you got by Googling) they always have.

    The 2014 models will also protect you in a multitude of different crash types from significant injury that would have been fatal in a truck from the 80’s (or even 90’s).

    Exhibit 1:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix-JjIRWOBU

    compared to:

    #511612

    tdziemia
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    I really wonder if this is achievable. For all the bellyaching Americans do about gas prices, it seems to me that the there has not been a comensurate chift in buying choices for cars (but I’ve yet to look at the statistics to back that up).

    It seems for the average to hit 50 mpg, it means the “average” car will need to be a hybrid, or electric, or diesel, not a gasoline-only power source. It means that a minority of our vehicles will be what most Americans are now driving.

    When I made the change to being a hybrid owner (the previous car was a Subaru wagon), I made a conscious choice to give up certain things. As a society we are not very good at that kind of thinking.

    #511613

    GCrites80s
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    Analogue Kid said:
    The 2014 models will also protect you in a multitude of different crash types from significant injury that would have been fatal in a truck from the 80’s (or even 90’s).

    Exhibit 1:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix-JjIRWOBU

    compared to:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwfapfaGR7U

    Die behind the wheel or die in the Middle East — both ways you’re dead.

    #511614

    Alex Silbajoris
    Participant

    The 2014 models will also protect you in a multitude of different crash types from significant injury that would have been fatal in a truck from the 80’s (or even 90’s).

    Speaking of which, did you see this one?

    #511615

    tdziemia
    Participant

    OK … some facts on the Americans’ appetite for fuel efficient vehicles …

    The first ten years of hybrid availability saw the average price of gas (in current dollars, not inflation adjusted) increase from about $1.30 to about 3.40. As a result, hybrid market share skyrocketed from nada all the way up to 3% (2012 sales data). And not a single one of those hybrid vehicles sold in 2012 meets the CAFE average set for 2025! The vehicles that DO meet that target are electric, and had a market share of 0.4% in 2012.

    There is not a snowball’s chance in hell that the target will be met.

    #511616

    GCrites80s
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    Oh it’s not that hard. There were several models that did it in the ’80s such as the Topaz and CRX HF. The average, everyday person will have to admit, though, that they don’t need an off road vehicle for everyday use and that it doesn’t need to be faster than all of the legendary muscle cars of the ’60s either.

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