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  • #1116326

    drew
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    Can anyone refresh my memory as to what 5xNW needs to be celebrating?

    They do all of this work creating sidewalks, parks, incorporating bike racks into development and get none of the credit.

    I drove through 5XNW and I did see a bike rack. So, yeah – lets party!

    #1116338
    Posole
    Posole
    Participant

    I get a kick out of that car wash that looks like a big barn.

    #1116340
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
    Keymaster

    I want to open a dive bar called The 5xNW Tavern.

    Except have it be located within Grandview Heights, proper.

    #1116346

    NEOBuckeye
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    My claim was that folding Grandview into City of Columbus would eliminate Grandview as it is known, ruin the schools, drive property values down by a ton in both Grandview and the 5th by NW area and basically have no discernable benefits whatsoever to the City of either Columbus or Grandview.

    If Columbus resembled the current economic and social circumstances position of say, Dayton, Akron, or Toledo, you might have a valid concern here. But it doesn’t, and in fact the city of Columbus is thriving as one of the few Midwestern cities actually growing both population-wise and economically.

    Even Columbus City Schools seems to be trending upwards now with respectable and inspiring new leadership after a period of scandal, turmoil and embarrassment.

    Your concerns are not only unsupported, they are comically steeped in absurdities and paranoia.

    The fact is, derm, Grandview owes what it has to its proximity to a economically thriving, socially vibrant Columbus. Even if metropolitan consolidation never happens–and it doesn’t by any account seem to be on anyone’s agenda in Central Ohio right now–you need to grasp that what you have in Grandview Heights does not exist in a vacuum that somehow magically begins and ends at an invisible municipal line.

    #1116352
    spfld_expat
    spfld_expat
    Participant

    Even Columbus City Schools seems to be trending upwards now with respectable and inspiring new leadership after a period of scandal, turmoil and embarrassment.

    The phrase “trending upwards” devoid of context is all but meaningless. Its like when a fledgling company says it doubled sales, but in reality sold one widget last year and two this year. When you have a school system in such dire straits as CSC, you can point to any positive change and say, “hey, look, we’re trending upwards!”

    What’s the number one reason we bought a house in Grandview? The good CSC schools are based on a lottery. A lottery! Some people are willing to gamble with their children’s future (or have no choice due to economics etc.), but some people are willing and able to pay more for a sure thing.

    Hence, Grandview.

    #1116355
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
    Keymaster

    Some people are willing to gamble with their children’s future (or have no choice due to economics etc.), but some people are willing and able to pay more for a sure thing.

    That’s an unnecessary and condescending way to put it. A parent can choose to stay in Columbus, apply for a lottery school, and fall back on private or charter schools as a backup plan if the lottery doesn’t work. There’s no gambling involved with a child’s future.

    If you want to see CCS improve (who wouldn’t), then insulting parents and families who are working to make a difference is actively working against that cause.

    #1116371
    spfld_expat
    spfld_expat
    Participant

    You and I will just have to agree to disagree. Those options you describe sound very much like a gamble to me, and when you are talking about schools the currency is the education of our children.

    My hats off to you for fighting the good fight. But like I said, I’ll take the sure thing every time.

    #1116381
    derm
    derm
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    Your concerns are not only unsupported, they are comically steeped in absurdities and paranoia.

    The fact is, derm, Grandview owes what it has to its proximity to a economically thriving, socially vibrant Columbus. Even if metropolitan consolidation never happens–and it doesn’t by any account seem to be on anyone’s agenda in Central Ohio right now–you need to grasp that what you have in Grandview Heights does not exist in a vacuum that somehow magically begins and ends at an invisible municipal line.

    Wondering when we would get to the insult part of the argument on your part.

    What fact are you citing in your argument?

    I just realized you are correct however. Duh, me. Grandview does owe its existence to City of Columbus. We are what we are(for 100 plus years) because of our schools. People left City of Columbus for our schools. We actually owe everything to the City of Columbus. If their schools were not the way they are, we would be a much different community.

    Why did you not state that right off the bat?

    PS: Grandview does actually begin and end at a magical municipal line. Just ask anyone who is not a Grandview resident who has been stopped by one of our wonderful peace officers ;)

    #1116382
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
    Keymaster

    But like I said, I’ll take the sure thing every time.

    That’s fine. Just try not to spend too much time looking down at everyone else as being inferior to you based on your own personal choices/opinions.

    The holier-than-thou suburbanite stereotype does not look good on anyone.

    #1116385
    spfld_expat
    spfld_expat
    Participant

    The holier-than-thou suburbanite stereotype does not look good on anyone.

    Glass houses.

    #1116388
    Walker Evans
    Walker Evans
    Keymaster

    Glass houses.

    I never said my choices or opinions were better than others. In fact, I clearly said your choice is fine.

    To each their own.

    #1116389

    NEOBuckeye
    Participant

    I just realized you are correct however. Duh, me. Grandview does owe its existence to City of Columbus. We are what we are(for 100 plus years) because of our schools. People left City of Columbus for our schools. We actually owe everything to the City of Columbus. If their schools were not the way they are, we would be a much different community.

    Why did you not state that right off the bat?

    PS: Grandview does actually begin and end at a magical municipal line. Just ask anyone who is not a Grandview resident who has been stopped by one of our wonderful peace officers ;)

    You know, I’m just wondering when public education became something to be so jealously guarded, as if the very core of one’s essence and well-being not only depends on getting a good quality public education, but also being able to be petty and condescending in elevating onesself in relationship to one school, at the expense of other people and other schools.

    You have every reason to be proud of what Grandview’s schools have accomplished. But your behavior and attitude here almost seems to suggest that Grandview Schools cannot be successful without Columbus’ public schools having to be and remain some kind of maligned and feared “other.”

    Maybe you need to ask yourself why this is, and how it constrains you and the schools you so cherish from being even better.

    #1116391
    derm
    derm
    Participant

    You know, I’m just wondering when public education became something to be so jealously guarded, as if the very core of one’s essence and well-being not only depends on getting a good quality public education, but also being able to be petty and condescending in elevating onesself in relationship to one school, at the expense of other people and other schools.

    You have every reason to be proud of what Grandview’s schools have accomplished. But your behavior and attitude here almost seems to suggest that Grandview Schools cannot be successful without Columbus’ public schools having to be and remain some kind of maligned and feared “other.”

    Maybe you need to ask yourself why this is, and how it constrains you and the schools you so cherish from being even better.

    I have said no such thing. Each new post from you contains some new straw man that you are outraged against. You construct an argument in your mind that you attribute to me then you get mad at me for it.

    Makes it hard to debate. I have no fear, or paranoia, or whatever you have fabricated to attribute to me. My experiences are my own and actually happened, and still happen. I have experience here: school, city, neighborhood, community. I am not making up anything.

    Do you actually live in 5th by NW? Do you have kids in the CofC schools? I do not live in 5th by NW anymore, but used to for 5 years. I do not have kids in CofC but have volunteered on their behalf for many years. Purely based on altruism. I want them to succeed as I call the Columbus area my home, and I am pro-kid.

    What is your basis for debate and argument here. Post up some experiences.

    #1116393

    NEOBuckeye
    Participant

    I have said no such thing. Each new post from you contains some new straw man that you are outraged against. You construct an argument in your mind that you attribute to me then you get mad at me for it.

    Makes it hard to debate. I have no fear, or paranoia, or whatever you have fabricated to attribute to me. My experiences are my own and actually happened, and still happen. I have experience here: school, city, neighborhood, community. I am not making up anything.

    I’m not the one who feels a need to respond to short answers with a series of diatribes.

    You are, after all, the one who took very personal exception within this thread to the mere suggestion of a merger between Grandview Heights and Columbus, both the municipal entities as well as the school districts. Whether it ever happens or not is no skin off my back. I’m a resident of the area and I probably know more than most care to about the ins and outs of education and government policy in general, but that’s aside from the point. CU is a casual arena, not a formal one. I suspect though that you’re not so much interested in a debate per se, but rather defending your emotional and perhaps material investments in the status quo as it were. If that is indeed the case, then by all means, have at it. Just don’t expect me to play the straight man in order for you to reaffirm in your own mind, your apparently brittle sensitivities.

    #1116394
    derm
    derm
    Participant

    You are, after all, the one who took very personal exception within this thread to the mere suggestion of a merger between Grandview Heights and Columbus, both the municipal entities as well as the school districts. Whether it ever happens or not is no skin off my back. I’m a resident of the area and I probably know more than most care to about the ins and outs of education and government policy in general, but that’s aside from the point. CU is a casual arena, not a formal one. I suspect though that you’re not so much interested in a debate per se, but rather defending your emotional and perhaps material investments in the status quo as it were. If that is indeed the case, then by all means, have at it. Just don’t expect me to play the straight man in order for you to reaffirm in your own mind, your apparently brittle sensitivities.

    So that would be “no” on kids and “no” on location and “no” on schools and “no” on volunteering to help other peoples kids, schools and neighborhoods. I am not denigrating your opinion. And I am quite sure that you think you know a ton on the subject. You have stated how much you know as “fact” in many posts.

    I am not brittle, or emotional, or all the stuff you fabricate and attribute to me. But you have no skin in the game. It is quite fun to pontificate about all the knowledge and experience you have with schools and policy and government but lets be real honest here. You have book knowledge. You regurgitate facts you read about per pupil costs you read on the internet. It is different when the rubber meets the road. Have some kids, buy a house, build a neighborhood, invest yourself in something that your life actually depends on. If that is the case and I misjudged you then I apologize, but I dont think that is the case here. You are trolling. Do something real. Then post.

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