Development, Shopping| Published on April 26, 2008 1:45 pm

Weinland Park Kroger to be Rebuilt

By: cmhcow


The following discussion is about Kroger’s plans to demolish and rebuild their store near 5th Ave in the Short North/Weinland Park area. Many have thought this store could use a revamp or major cleaning up for a long time. Changing this store will be a boon for the area.

125 Comments

  • dru wrote yes.

    +1

  • i think this is HUGE! its gonna redefine that part of high street in such a positive way. i can’t wait to see the site plan.

  • wow. they’re going to do the library too?

  • Again, opening day party at my house!!! Yeah!!!!

  • dru wrote yes.

    I had something more long-winded in mind.

    After careful consideration, I think I’ll just stick with this.

    +1. :D

  • Lovely! :wink:

  • So who is the developer and where do we petition for real bike racks and not the concrete wheel benders?

    This will be wonderful for the area. Lived on Euclid a year or so ago and walking to the “Kroghetto” for some late night snacks was always fun.

  • I had heard that the Library was at one time trying to buy the building directly to the North of it, that holds WingsXtreme and used to be a barber shop. Now it looks like a tattoo parlor is going in where the barber shop used to be (corner of 8th and High). That library needs to get bigger though for the use it gets between Weiland Park and Campus.

  • YES! This is awesome and absolutely necessary! I am really excited to see this dead zone become a functional bridge between OSU and SN.

  • How did this happen without a streetcar?

  • JohnWirtz wrote How did this happen without a streetcar?

    haha

    Kroger will give us a dressed up Kroghetto now and then when streetcars come they will redevelop it into a “Urban Marketplace Fresh Krogers” to get the maxiumn return. The buzz of redevelopment almost wore off so this seems to be Kroger’s latest attempt to squeeze the last bit of money out of that store.

    If we can start a running list of what we would dream of in the store, I’d like that.

    I would like to see:

    -A two level kroger complete LEED certification (This could leave a huge amount of land open for other urban big box retail.)

    -A responsible design + practicies like no plastic bags, a huge new bus stop sponsored by Kroger, the gas program with the option of free bus rides instead of just cheaper gas.

    -Bike / scooter parking

    -second floor outdoor seating so you could have lunch there.

    -A lot of programmatic Whole Food decisions — like a whole bunch of chef stations.

    -A fine wine, cigar department

    -A large selection of very fresh produce (They could work with local farmers, or at least say they do– I’d be just as happy)

    -More than 1 cashier at 9pm.

  • I take my recycling to the doomed Kroghetto several times a week. I hope its replacement retains recycling bins. Ideally they would be cleaner and better arranged for easy drop off.

  • garrettbe wrote
    JohnWirtz wrote How did this happen without a streetcar?

    haha

    Kroger will give us a dressed up Kroghetto now and then when streetcars come they will redevelop it into a “Urban Marketplace Fresh Krogers” to get the maxiumn return. The buzz of redevelopment almost wore off so this seems to be Kroger’s latest attempt to squeeze the last bit of money out of that store.

    If we can start a running list of what we would dream of in the store, I’d like that.

    I would like to see:

    -A two level kroger complete LEED certification (This could leave a huge amount of land open for other urban big box retail.)

    -A responsible design + practicies like no plastic bags, a huge new bus stop sponsored by Kroger, the gas program with the option of free bus rides instead of just cheaper gas.

    -Bike / scooter parking

    -second floor outdoor seating so you could have lunch there.

    -A lot of programmatic Whole Food decisions — like a whole bunch of chef stations.

    -A fine wine, cigar department

    -A large selection of very fresh produce (They could work with local farmers, or at least say they do– I’d be just as happy)

    -More than 1 cashier at 9pm.

    I personally would like for that store to lower prices instead of adding those upscale amenities. Thats a poorer area which should be catered to, and in fact, I think a Sav-a-lot or Aldi would be more appreciated by the locals, but then again, thats just me.

  • Khanra wrote
    garrettbe wrote I would like to see:

    -A fine wine, cigar department

    -A large selection of very fresh produce (They could work with local farmers, or at least say they do– I’d be just as happy)

    I personally would like for that store to lower prices instead of adding those upscale amenities. Thats a poorer area which should be catered to, and in fact, I think a Sav-a-lot or Aldi would be more appreciated by the locals, but then again, thats just me.

    It seems to me that this is precisely the sort of opportunity that the Mayor’s office should be looking for to make good on the language in his State of the City speech from last month:

    The Mayor wrote You know, there are too many neighborhoods in Columbus today where the only healthy food you can buy is the lettuce and the pickle that comes on a fast food hamburger. Ketchup is not a vegetable! Poor eating habits endanger the health of our residents, so we’re going to bring Farmers’ Markets right into the neighborhoods of Columbus. At Farmers Markets, our residents can buy an ear of corn, a head of lettuce, a tomato or my favorite – collard greens, rather than 2 all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions, on a sesame seed bun. The Health Department tested a farmers’ market concept last summer and folks lined up down the block to buy fresh fruits and vegetables.

    We’re also bringing some healthier choices to the East Side, bringing something every neighborhood should have – fresh fruits and vegetables at their neighborhood grocery store.

    Every neighborhood should have affordable fresh fruits and vegetables, and this one is no exception. The location of this Kroger, between the University and the Short North, and the fact that it’s part of a large corporation, make it a pretty low-risk proposition: if they start stocking fresh local produce, the turnover should allow them to offer it at affordable prices.

    Unless there’s something about this location that I haven’t taken into account that makes it less than ideal.

    Or unless that was just empty rhetoric. (I’m not saying it was or it wasn’t — but I’d really like to see it not be.)

  • Those other stores are not even options (thank the lord!) so you should focus on your suggestions to Kroger.

  • Khanra wrote
    garrettbe wrote
    JohnWirtz wrote How did this happen without a streetcar?

    haha

    Kroger will give us a dressed up Kroghetto now and then when streetcars come they will redevelop it into a “Urban Marketplace Fresh Krogers” to get the maxiumn return. The buzz of redevelopment almost wore off so this seems to be Kroger’s latest attempt to squeeze the last bit of money out of that store.

    If we can start a running list of what we would dream of in the store, I’d like that.

    I would like to see:

    -A two level kroger complete LEED certification (This could leave a huge amount of land open for other urban big box retail.)

    -A responsible design + practicies like no plastic bags, a huge new bus stop sponsored by Kroger, the gas program with the option of free bus rides instead of just cheaper gas.

    -Bike / scooter parking

    -second floor outdoor seating so you could have lunch there.

    -A lot of programmatic Whole Food decisions — like a whole bunch of chef stations.

    -A fine wine, cigar department

    -A large selection of very fresh produce (They could work with local farmers, or at least say they do– I’d be just as happy)

    -More than 1 cashier at 9pm.

    I personally would like for that store to lower prices instead of adding those upscale amenities. Thats a poorer area which should be catered to, and in fact, I think a Sav-a-lot or Aldi would be more appreciated by the locals, but then again, thats just me.

    I completely agree with what you are saying, and understand where you are coming from. I mean cigars and wine in Weiland Park? Let’s be real, this serves mostly campus students and those of a lesser income. However, I also see the writing on the wall. Weiland park is not going to be an area for lower class residents in another 10 years. Since it is my belief that this is inevitably going to happen, let’s put in a project that will last us twenty or thirty or forty years, not one that we will want to tear down in another ten years, as the neighborhood continues to be improved.

  • Ashland wrote

    I completely agree with what you are saying, and understand where you are coming from. I mean cigars and wine in Weiland Park? Let’s be real, this serves mostly campus students and those of a lesser income. However, I also see the writing on the wall. Weiland park is not going to be an area for lower class residents in another 10 years. Since it is my belief that this is inevitably going to happen, let’s put in a project that will last us twenty or thirty or forty years, not one that we will want to tear down in another ten years, as the neighborhood continues to be improved.

    I agree that this neighborhood will look different in 10 years, so I would suggest changing your inventory to reflect the demographic changes in that neighborhood. As wealthier people move in (and I hope they don’t just displace the current residents), then more upscale things can be offered, but for now, the neighborhood is poor and upscale goods probably won’t do many favors for the current residents. In fact, I think if that K. Rogers gets too “upscale” for that area as it currently is, then it will be doomed to failure because the market isn’t yet there in Weinland Park to sustain that sort of store.

    I’m all for development and redevelopment, but I want it to serve the current community, not a future community – just yet.

  • Keep in mind that the construction itself will take a few years. There will still be many years to go after the renovations are finished, especially more than a block or two east of High, but I think their move to get both larger and a notch more upscale is probably a reasonable business decision.

    We could all make a wish list. I’d actually love to see it rebuilt as a multistory building with a few floors of residential above the store, but I’m sure the engineering challenges make that problematic. Still, it’s right on High, which is where a great number of people want to live, and I think that while some people would find the heavy foot traffic (and car traffic in the parking lot, which will now be in the back) annoying, others would be absolutely thrilled to have a full-service grocery–especially with the expansions–right downstairs. I lived right across the street from a Harris Teeter in Charlottesville and let me tell you, that convenience was worth real money.

  • What is the typical customer reach of a grocery store in an urban area? Because while the Weinland Park area is still very much “up-and-coming”, this is the closest Kroger to all of campus, all of the Short North, as well as the south-campus/Dennison/Victorian Village neighborhoods located immediately west of the store. I think Kroger must be realizing that they’re missing out on a pretty large group of people in the area who will either venture towards the nearby Giant Eagles for their groceries or who will go out of their way to go to a further away Kroger.

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