Comments on: The City Center Scheduled for Demolition http://www.columbusunderground.com/the-city-center-scheduled-for-demolition News, opinions and reviews on all things Columbus, Ohio. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 05:01:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Walker http://www.columbusunderground.com/the-city-center-scheduled-for-demolition/comment-page-7#comment-80873 Walker Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:01:21 +0000 http://www.columbusunderground.com/?p=5481#comment-80873 <strong>Elegant City Center slips into memory</strong> Friday,  March 6, 2009 3:15 AM BY ANN FISHER <em>Now, beached between State and Town streets like a mortally wounded whale, one of the city's greatest disappointments will be leveled for future development.</em> <em>At 7 p.m. yesterday, the mall closed to the public forever. Today, the meager remnants go on the auction block.</em> <a href="http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2009/03/06/ann06_ART_03-06-09_B1_CFD4RQ3.html?type=rss&cat=&sid=101&title=Ann+Fisher+commentary%3A+Elegant+City+Center+slips+into+memory">READ MORE</a> Elegant City Center slips into memory
Friday,  March 6, 2009 3:15 AM
BY ANN FISHER

Now, beached between State and Town streets like a mortally wounded whale, one of the city’s greatest disappointments will be leveled for future development.

At 7 p.m. yesterday, the mall closed to the public forever. Today, the meager remnants go on the auction block.

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]]> By: surber17 http://www.columbusunderground.com/the-city-center-scheduled-for-demolition/comment-page-7#comment-78889 surber17 Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:06:42 +0000 http://www.columbusunderground.com/?p=5481#comment-78889 Ran around the proposed space today ..... cant wait for this to be a park!! Ran around the proposed space today ….. cant wait for this to be a park!!

]]> By: johnwirtz http://www.columbusunderground.com/the-city-center-scheduled-for-demolition/comment-page-7#comment-78826 johnwirtz Fri, 06 Feb 2009 17:29:18 +0000 http://www.columbusunderground.com/?p=5481#comment-78826 Columbusite, the nice thing about C-shaped buildings is that they create a lot of rooms inside with windows on two sides.  That allows a lot of natural light in and makes for a nice place to live or work.  Why do you think corner offices are so desirable? Columbusite, the nice thing about C-shaped buildings is that they create a lot of rooms inside with windows on two sides.  That allows a lot of natural light in and makes for a nice place to live or work.  Why do you think corner offices are so desirable?

]]> By: lifeontwowheels http://www.columbusunderground.com/the-city-center-scheduled-for-demolition/comment-page-7#comment-78813 lifeontwowheels Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:39:53 +0000 http://www.columbusunderground.com/?p=5481#comment-78813 Also, when posting a mindless rant online don't FORGET to capitilize an entire word to drive your point home. Speeling mistakes also lend credibility.  John,  Thanks for the link. Interesting read.  Also, when posting a mindless rant online don’t FORGET to capitilize an entire word to drive your point home. Speeling mistakes also lend credibility. 

John, 
Thanks for the link. Interesting read. 

]]> By: surber17 http://www.columbusunderground.com/the-city-center-scheduled-for-demolition/comment-page-7#comment-78811 surber17 Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:21:06 +0000 http://www.columbusunderground.com/?p=5481#comment-78811 Ha, yeah, I've learned just not to read those comments ..... I get way to angry at how stupid some people are ..... then I get more angry that when election day rolls around they actually have a say in things.  I really believe that if you dont know all the facts about what you're voting for, you shouldnt be allowed to vote. Ha, yeah, I’ve learned just not to read those comments ….. I get way to angry at how stupid some people are ….. then I get more angry that when election day rolls around they actually have a say in things.  I really believe that if you dont know all the facts about what you’re voting for, you shouldnt be allowed to vote.

]]> By: johnwirtz http://www.columbusunderground.com/the-city-center-scheduled-for-demolition/comment-page-7#comment-78809 johnwirtz Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:17:50 +0000 http://www.columbusunderground.com/?p=5481#comment-78809 We made Streetsblog: http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/02/06/columbus-and-its-mall-this-marriage-cant-be-saved/ We made Streetsblog:
http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/02/06/columbus-and-its-mall-this-marriage-cant-be-saved/

]]> By: lifeontwowheels http://www.columbusunderground.com/the-city-center-scheduled-for-demolition/comment-page-7#comment-78781 lifeontwowheels Fri, 06 Feb 2009 05:01:08 +0000 http://www.columbusunderground.com/?p=5481#comment-78781 Just go to NBC4i and read the comments. You'll get plenty of comments trashing Columbus. All these comments are the same: -trash downtown as being drug and crime ridden -trash any infrastructure project that doesn't involve a highway -rant about the rich folks and their downtown condos -then completely ignore any of the number of given facts and argue a point that logical doesn't make sense. Like arguing to put this project to a vote, followed by a comment on how great a casino would be. Despite that being voted down. What, 3 times? -then top it off with some ludicrous rant about Columbus not being the next [Chicago, NYC, etc.], even though no one has really ever argued for us to be the next [insert city] Just go to NBC4i and read the comments. You’ll get plenty of comments trashing Columbus. All these comments are the same:

-trash downtown as being drug and crime ridden
-trash any infrastructure project that doesn’t involve a highway
-rant about the rich folks and their downtown condos
-then completely ignore any of the number of given facts and argue a point that logical doesn’t make sense. Like arguing to put this project to a vote, followed by a comment on how great a casino would be. Despite that being voted down. What, 3 times?
-then top it off with some ludicrous rant about Columbus not being the next [Chicago, NYC, etc.], even though no one has really ever argued for us to be the next [insert city]

]]> By: Roland http://www.columbusunderground.com/the-city-center-scheduled-for-demolition/comment-page-7#comment-78780 Roland Fri, 06 Feb 2009 04:50:38 +0000 http://www.columbusunderground.com/?p=5481#comment-78780 Wow. Needle Parks? I knew those Shakespeare in the Park people were up to no good. I can't wait to hear more of Anna's crap. Wow. Needle Parks? I knew those Shakespeare in the Park people were up to no good.

I can’t wait to hear more of Anna’s crap.

]]> By: lifeontwowheels http://www.columbusunderground.com/the-city-center-scheduled-for-demolition/comment-page-7#comment-78770 lifeontwowheels Fri, 06 Feb 2009 04:00:04 +0000 http://www.columbusunderground.com/?p=5481#comment-78770 Always a great way to introduce yourself. Anna, welcome to CU. Spend some time here and you'll see a lot of great discussions on many of the topics you spoke of. A simple search for streetcar or light rail will give you plenty of arguments for the why. Always a great way to introduce yourself.

Anna, welcome to CU. Spend some time here and you’ll see a lot of great discussions on many of the topics you spoke of. A simple search for streetcar or light rail will give you plenty of arguments for the why.

]]> By: Walker http://www.columbusunderground.com/the-city-center-scheduled-for-demolition/comment-page-7#comment-78768 Walker Fri, 06 Feb 2009 03:50:10 +0000 http://www.columbusunderground.com/?p=5481#comment-78768 Anna: When was the last time you set foot downtown? It sounds like you're talking about a different city. <div> </div> <div>Anyway... If you've got better ideas to share, by all means share them. It's easy to complain about something. Let's hear your solution to the problems you've mentioned.</div> Anna: When was the last time you set foot downtown? It sounds like you’re talking about a different city.

Anyway… If you’ve got better ideas to share, by all means share them. It’s easy to complain about something. Let’s hear your solution to the problems you’ve mentioned.
]]> By: Anna http://www.columbusunderground.com/the-city-center-scheduled-for-demolition/comment-page-7#comment-78766 Anna Fri, 06 Feb 2009 03:31:20 +0000 http://www.columbusunderground.com/?p=5481#comment-78766 This project is absurd and it would be more absurd if we used stimulus money to fund or partially fund it. The park would turn into another needle park, junkies and homeless, as it stands now there are so many brand new condos for sale the developers couldn't even unload them at auctions . As for retail...Hello, Hello wasn't that what city center was. Where do these terrible ideas come from? And, why do we need a new transportation system down high??? Did the buses stop running? How about money for the police, how about money for education, how about money to keep the rec centers opened so kids have a safe place to go? Why don't we just have another Ameria Flora - that was a big success - not. Downtown Columbus is just not a draw and will never be a Chicago, New York or San Francisco and is Gahanna Creekside will never be San Antonio River Walk. This project is absurd and it would be more absurd if we used stimulus money to fund or partially fund it. The park would turn into another needle park, junkies and homeless, as it stands now there are so many brand new condos for sale the developers couldn’t even unload them at auctions . As for retail…Hello, Hello wasn’t that what city center was. Where do these terrible ideas come from? And, why do we need a new transportation system down high??? Did the buses stop running? How about money for the police, how about money for education, how about money to keep the rec centers opened so kids have a safe place to go? Why don’t we just have another Ameria Flora – that was a big success – not. Downtown Columbus is just not a draw and will never be a Chicago, New York or San Francisco and is Gahanna Creekside will never be San Antonio River Walk.

]]> By: lifeontwowheels http://www.columbusunderground.com/the-city-center-scheduled-for-demolition/comment-page-7#comment-78742 lifeontwowheels Fri, 06 Feb 2009 01:47:41 +0000 http://www.columbusunderground.com/?p=5481#comment-78742 Someone once asked me how I biked from OSU to Bexley without a bullet proof vest. The misconception is often amusing. Someone once asked me how I biked from OSU to Bexley without a bullet proof vest. The misconception is often amusing.

]]> By: surber17 http://www.columbusunderground.com/the-city-center-scheduled-for-demolition/comment-page-6#comment-78739 surber17 Fri, 06 Feb 2009 01:27:58 +0000 http://www.columbusunderground.com/?p=5481#comment-78739 Ha, I just had that convo with someone at work today.  I run through downtown nearly every night.  I've never felt unsafe once.  Ha, I just had that convo with someone at work today.  I run through downtown nearly every night.  I’ve never felt unsafe once. 

]]> By: Pablo http://www.columbusunderground.com/the-city-center-scheduled-for-demolition/comment-page-6#comment-78707 Pablo Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:54:32 +0000 http://www.columbusunderground.com/?p=5481#comment-78707 You're right Walker, the 9 acre park is a place holder for the ultimate plan.  It's easier to sell parcels of lawn to developers than a chunk of a dead mall.  IMO this plan gives the city maximum flexibility to react to needs over the next 10 years.  If the economy turns around there might be a need for more housing than offices (or the opposite). I was a bit bored at work so I wandered over to the Dispatch Hot Topic.  I'm glad I don't rely on those folks for impressions of the city.  I had no idea how much crime and prostitution there is downtown!  One poster suggested we need more parking, not parks, downtown.  Another wanted the mall turned into a jail.  It's a wonder that these people ever leave their homes.  Yikes! You’re right Walker, the 9 acre park is a place holder for the ultimate plan.  It’s easier to sell parcels of lawn to developers than a chunk of a dead mall.  IMO this plan gives the city maximum flexibility to react to needs over the next 10 years.  If the economy turns around there might be a need for more housing than offices (or the opposite).

I was a bit bored at work so I wandered over to the Dispatch Hot Topic.  I’m glad I don’t rely on those folks for impressions of the city.  I had no idea how much crime and prostitution there is downtown!  One poster suggested we need more parking, not parks, downtown.  Another wanted the mall turned into a jail.  It’s a wonder that these people ever leave their homes.  Yikes!

]]> By: Walker http://www.columbusunderground.com/the-city-center-scheduled-for-demolition/comment-page-6#comment-78704 Walker Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:37:09 +0000 http://www.columbusunderground.com/?p=5481#comment-78704 I think the initial 9 acre park without anything else around it will be underused. I think the final 1 acre park with 30,000 sqft of retail 40,000 sqft of restaurant, 400 residential units, and 400,000+ sqft office space will be a much better fit. From my understanding, the larger 9 acre park we'll get out of step one is an interim step. We either have a large underused park while we wait for the rest of the infill, or we have a large abandoned mall while we wait for the rest. I think the initial 9 acre park without anything else around it will be underused.

I think the final 1 acre park with 30,000 sqft of retail 40,000 sqft of restaurant, 400 residential units, and 400,000+ sqft office space will be a much better fit.

From my understanding, the larger 9 acre park we’ll get out of step one is an interim step. We either have a large underused park while we wait for the rest of the infill, or we have a large abandoned mall while we wait for the rest.

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