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The following discussion is about the state of Ohio providing Franklin County money from their share of the federal economic stimulus package. Franklin County has desires to use the money for the Rich Street bridge and other road interchanges.
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“The largest single project among them is a $29.9 million reconstruction of the interchange at Interstate 71 and Route 665 in Grove City.”
ARRRGGGH!
Business as usual. $29 million for an exurban interchange project!
Note that 665 is one number from 666. :roll:
ARRRGGGH!
Business as usual. $29 million for an exurban interchange project!
Note that 665 is one number from 666. :roll:
I’m not sure you read that correctly.
ARRRGGGH!
Business as usual. $29 million for an exurban interchange project!
Note that 665 is one number from 666. :roll:
I’m not sure you read that correctly.
How so?
ARRRGGGH!
Business as usual. $29 million for an exurban interchange project!
Note that 665 is one number from 666. :roll:
I’m not sure you read that correctly.
How so?
It was stating that the largest project among them…meaning the exurban interchange projects…was the interchange at 71 and 665, not the largest project among all projects overall.
Also, they’re not getting 29 million from this stimulus package, nor was this project created by the stimulus package…they’re simply hoping to get a little of the money from the package for this already existing project. (the package itself is less than total cost of this single project).
ARRRGGGH!
Business as usual. $29 million for an exurban interchange project!
Note that 665 is one number from 666. :roll:
I’m not sure you read that correctly.
How so?
It was stating that the largest project among them…meaning the exurban interchange projects…was the interchange at 71 and 665, not the largest project among all projects overall.
Also, they’re not getting 29 million from this stimulus package, nor was this project created by the stimulus package…they’re simply hoping to get a little of the money from the package for this already existing project. (the package itself is less than total cost of this single project).
I understand all that. I have the same opposition that I do with any project the consumes loads of money to simply re-enforce autocentricity and not any other transportation methods. I’m against it in principle.
You do know, the death of driving would also mean the death of radio most likely ;)
Sorry for the lame internet liingo, but OMFG, are you f*ckin kidding me. A bridge right next to another bridge is our top project? This is still going forward, for $48 million? We already have a replacement for the crumbling Town St. bridge: it’s called the Main St. bridge. Speaking of safety concerns, where’s the concern for my safety when I want to cross the river at Goodale or 3rd Ave or 5th Ave or King Ave or Lane Ave etc, etc or when I ride on “bike routes” like Front or Summit or 4th?. This is why when the city gives the reply that they’re strapped for cash regarding road infrastructure for bikes I call bullshit. Those city officials will be hearing from me shortly.
Might want to make sure you’re bitching at the right people first. I could be wrong, but it sounds like the county allocates what the money is to be used for.
ohhh scary!
Sorry for the lame internet liingo, but OMFG, are you f*ckin kidding me. A bridge right next to another bridge is our top project? This is still going forward, for $48 million? We already have a replacement for the crumbling Town St. bridge: it’s called the Main St. bridge. Speaking of safety concerns, where’s the concern for my safety when I want to cross the river at Goodale or 3rd Ave or 5th Ave or King Ave or Lane Ave etc, etc or when I ride on “bike routes” like Front or Summit or 4th?. This is why when the city gives the reply that they’re strapped for cash regarding road infrastructure for bikes I call bullshit. Those city officials will be hearing from me shortly.
(1) Get a car and get around like normal people.
(2) Stop whining.
(3) Problem solved. :P 8) :twisted: :evil:
Might want to make sure you’re bitching at the right people first. I could be wrong, but it sounds like the county allocates what the money is to be used for.
I just assumed “city officials” meant city officials. That $6 million they’re chasing for he total cost can be used for much better purposes.
Sorry for the lame internet liingo, but OMFG, are you f*ckin kidding me. A bridge right next to another bridge is our top project? This is still going forward, for $48 million? We already have a replacement for the crumbling Town St. bridge: it’s called the Main St. bridge. Speaking of safety concerns, where’s the concern for my safety when I want to cross the river at Goodale or 3rd Ave or 5th Ave or King Ave or Lane Ave etc, etc or when I ride on “bike routes” like Front or Summit or 4th?. This is why when the city gives the reply that they’re strapped for cash regarding road infrastructure for bikes I call bullshit. Those city officials will be hearing from me shortly.
(1) Get a car and get around like normal people.
(2) Stop whining.
(3) Problem solved. :P 8) :twisted: :evil:
There is an attitude I like. Who defines normal? A healthy, vibrant city should provide a range of options and choices to meet a variety of needs and budgets. It’s BS thinking like this that creates the issues we have in this state and city. Like COTA’s funding being gutted and the system struggling to meet demand now because of public thinking of what is “normal” when they voted on previous levies.
Sorry for the lame internet liingo, but OMFG, are you f*ckin kidding me. A bridge right next to another bridge is our top project? This is still going forward, for $48 million? We already have a replacement for the crumbling Town St. bridge: it’s called the Main St. bridge. Speaking of safety concerns, where’s the concern for my safety when I want to cross the river at Goodale or 3rd Ave or 5th Ave or King Ave or Lane Ave etc, etc or when I ride on “bike routes” like Front or Summit or 4th?. This is why when the city gives the reply that they’re strapped for cash regarding road infrastructure for bikes I call bullshit. Those city officials will be hearing from me shortly.
(1) Get a car and get around like normal people.
(2) Stop whining.
(3) Problem solved. :P 8) :twisted: :evil:
There is an attitude I like. Who defines normal? A healthy, vibrant city should provide a range of options and choices to meet a variety of needs and budgets. It’s BS thinking like this that creates the issues we have in this state and city. Like COTA’s funding being gutted and the system struggling to meet demand now because of public thinking of what is “normal” when they voted on previous levies.
Fair enough, I think gram was partially joking…however…
It’s being reported that Columbus is way ahead of the curve in servicing a biking community, they’ve made new commitments consistently to do so over the last couple years as well.
i don’t bike, but yet I also don’t post every time a bike path thread starts about the evils of bikers spending my tax dollars.
People drive. Making driving safer and making driving more convenient is still important, unless you consider companies wanting to locate here or businesses wanting to set up shop here as trivial.
Again, people way overestimate the “cycling dollar” here in town. I’m all for it, I think dumping the car is great for the people who can do it…but I wouldn’t open a store selling anything but spoke cards that couldn’t be accessed by drivers.
p.s.
Both will be pedestrian-friendly. The Main Street bridge features a pedestrian walkway that’s separated from traffic lanes by the overhead arch. The Town-Rich Street bridge will have two 10-foot sidewalks and three lanes of traffic.
http://www.columbusdispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/03/09/bridge.ART_ART_03-09-08_B1_LU9JADK.html?sid=101
You can read my response at CB to this same post
I kind of got that gram was joking to an extent. I ride the bike and bus through some pretty impoverished parts of Columbus, areas of lower income where driving a car is not as normal as some would like to think. The #1 going through E. Livingston into downtown was packed this afternoon.
I get the feeling, at least in the midwest and other areas of the states where things are decidedly auto-centric, that the transit and other alternatives fall more into a public welfare program than an actual part of the city’s infrastructure. And I think Columbus has suffered for this until late.
That said, we do need to look at the benefit to the whole community. The 665/71 project is probably being done to help facilitate Rickenbacker’s growth and development as a significant part of our economy.
The city is going in a good directions and is doing some great work to really take the lead on a new style of thinking. Hopefully with their emphasis on Complete Street policies, we’ll see the inclusion of cyclists and pedestrians on the bridge projects. Regardless, that Franklinton-Downtown connection is going to help in moving people and hopefully help stimulate Franklinton.
I kind of got that gram was joking to an extent. I ride the bike and bus through some pretty impoverished parts of Columbus, areas of lower income where driving a car is not as normal as some would like to think. The #1 going through E. Livingston into downtown was packed this afternoon.
I get the feeling, at least in the midwest and other areas of the states where things are decidedly auto-centric, that the transit and other alternatives fall more into a public welfare program than an actual part of the city’s infrastructure. And I think Columbus has suffered for this until late.
That said, we do need to look at the benefit to the whole community. The 665/71 project is probably being done to help facilitate Rickenbacker’s growth and development as a significant part of our economy.
The city is going in a good directions and is doing some great work to really take the lead on a new style of thinking. Hopefully with their emphasis on Complete Street policies, we’ll see the inclusion of cyclists and pedestrians on the bridge projects. Regardless, that Franklinton-Downtown connection is going to help in moving people and hopefully help stimulate Franklinton.
I’ve learned to disregard your posts like this, because it’s absolutely no fun arguing with a reasonable, thoughtful cycling advocate
:lol:
I kind of got that gram was joking to an extent. I ride the bike and bus through some pretty impoverished parts of Columbus, areas of lower income where driving a car is not as normal as some would like to think. The #1 going through E. Livingston into downtown was packed this afternoon.
I get the feeling, at least in the midwest and other areas of the states where things are decidedly auto-centric, that the transit and other alternatives fall more into a public welfare program than an actual part of the city’s infrastructure. And I think Columbus has suffered for this until late.
That said, we do need to look at the benefit to the whole community. The 665/71 project is probably being done to help facilitate Rickenbacker’s growth and development as a significant part of our economy.
The city is going in a good directions and is doing some great work to really take the lead on a new style of thinking. Hopefully with their emphasis on Complete Street policies, we’ll see the inclusion of cyclists and pedestrians on the bridge projects. Regardless, that Franklinton-Downtown connection is going to help in moving people and hopefully help stimulate Franklinton.
I’ve learned to disregard your posts like this, because it’s absolutely no fun arguing with a reasonable, thoughtful cycling advocate
:lol:
:D
Aren’t you glad it’s me headed to the bike to work week meeting tonight?
God yes. :D
Lo2W: Biker of the Year ;)
Friday, December 12, 2008
By Elizabeth Gibson
The Ohio Public Works Commission is awarding governments in Franklin County $35 million next year to fix up roads, rebuild bridges and repair leaking pipes.
The recommended winners of that money are 12 projects in Columbus, Bexley, Grove City, Hilliard, Westerville, Whitehall and Prairie Township.
The commission is passing out more money for projects that would begin in 2009 — and doing it earlier — to keep construction workers employed and help local governments struggling to maintain their infrastructure.
“We get a good perspective on this when we look back at the New Deal under Roosevelt,” said Lucia Dunn, an economics professor at Ohio State University. “The government is the employer of last resort. When the private sector is not putting out enough jobs — like now — then there’s a role for the government to step in.”
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I find it hard to believe that a bridge can’t be built for the mere $6MM allocated in the article. $40+MM, really? Really?