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NBC4 is reporting that the proposed Arena District Casino would be branded as a “Hollywood Casino”, similar to its Indiana counterpart. In the article, a representative says that renderings won’t be made available before election day, but states that the casino will be a single-story structure with an attached parking garage, and will include a performance stage and dining options.
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Proposed Casino to be Branded as Hollywood Casino
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Casinos are DESIGNED to keep you from leaving. Confusing floorplans, no clocks, no windows, oxygen in the ventilation system…every element is intended to keep asses on stools in front of slot machines for as long as possible.
A bus will drop off a load of seniors at the front door, they’ll go inside, and maybe they’ll come out for a smoke or ten until it’s time for them to get back on the bus. They won’t be leaving to wander up Nationwide Boulevard for lunch or a drink.
I’d love to see stats that support a direct causational relationship between casino-building and development in the surrounding area. People still think of Windsor as a success story, but in my opinion that’s due to A) the then-favorable $USD/$CAD exchange rate, B) the lower drinking age and C) the rarity of a casino in the region more than any inherent “energizing” effect. If Windsor is still a bustling town, it’s because American college kids can go there for a weekend and get booze and Cuban cigars. Detroit’s casino areas aren’t exactly hotspots of prosperity, and I can’t think of a time anyone got excited about the idea of visiting Florence, Indiana because of the area AROUND Belterra.
Ethan Says: I’ve heard that Nationwide is not thrilled about a casino potentially coming to the Arena District – is this true?
Yes – LINK
If we all vote no this time, the casino-men will be back next year. Maybe then they’ll offer us a better plan, which i hope would be away from our downtowns – since casinos pretty much only attract strip clubs. Maybe they’ll also offer a better tax rate?
I might vote for a casino bill that doesn’t specify which gambling companies get to benefit, a bill that doesn’t guarantee an extremely low tax burden for casinos and a bill that mandates that communities in which casinos are to be located to be an equal partner in building design. Also, a bill that doesn’t get passed by lying about the benefits in ads.
I think it says something that they’ve already cleared out one building and are doing work on the other building at the site already. It’s like they already know the outcome of the election. While I have always been in favor of Casino’s in Ohio, having one literally in my backyard doesn’t really sit well with me. I like to gamble as well, but I don’t know if I want to be able to walk to the casino.
The clearing of the land has to do with a grant from the state to clean it up. Those buildings were coming down no matter what. That said ….. does anyone remember the Buggyworks final plans that included a tower (the drawings were amazing)? I still have dreams of that and with that land cleared I see it as one more step in that direction. BUT if that casino goes in … I think you can kiss those dreams goodbye. My NO vote has been solidified.
Yep, the grant was won by the current property owners, Plaza Properties. Their original plans were to build around 1,000 residential units on this 22-acre piece of land. I’m guessing that if the casino gets voted down and if the housing market and economy starts to rebound, we may still see this happen (their original timeline was get phase one under way by 2010).
Oh, and here’s a link to those renderings of the Buggworks Tower. It sounds like it’s on indefinite hold at the moment. Would love to see it eventually happen though. Would be a nice “sky view” addition on the other side of Huntington Park.
If you are on the fence, click that link that Walker provided and just ask yourself …. do I want a 1 story Casino or the possibility of that tower.
I don’t believe the Buggyworks tower is on the land owned by Plaza Properties, so those two aren’t mutually exclusive. Although I can imagine that the casino would make that next phase less likely to happen due to the negative impact the casino will have on the ability to sell high-end condos in that immediate area.
Still, if I had a choice between the casino and the 1000-unit residential neighborhood originally planed by Plaza Properties for that site, I’d gladly take the residences. Downtown would see a much greater benefit from a population increase of 1,500 people rather than this proposed Hollywood Casino.
While Plaza Properties is planning a 1000 units on the property, I doubt anything will happen in the next several years. If they were planning to break ground in the next year or two, wouldn’t there be a website showing renderings of this potential development?
What is Plaza Properties view on Issue 3? Are they looking forward to selling their property or would they rather hold onto the land for future residential development? NRI is opposed to the issue, but they don’t technically own the land.
I would imagine any hotel or other development attached would, obviously, be larger, but virtually every casino in Vegas is 1 story. Seriously. All of them. I think Planet Hollywood has a few slots on the lounge area over looking the main floor, but besides that, every strip casino is one story. Riverboat casinos have multiple floors, because they have to.
Sometimes I wish we could have a law limiting the number of votes we can have on freakin’ casinos in a given twenty-year period.
Seems like these guys have made the calculation that all they need to do is keep pushing and pushing and pushing, and as long as there’s any chance of success for any one initiative, the infinite revenue stream on the other side justifies the expense. But if you don’t want casinos, that one successful vote would be hard to undo.
@Bear – I agree. At the very least there should be a law in place to make such redundant attempts cost prohibitive.
Does everyone realize that the forces behind the push for a ‘yes’ vote on Issue #3 are Republican driven? The big ‘R’s’ in our state want a deep-pocketed donor (ie out state casinos) who will help fund their fear mongering initiatives. I am gobsmacked that no one has picked up on this. Focusing on renderings of what the casino will look like is not the point! Casinos siphon off money that would otherwise be spent in businesses within the city. Do you really believe 34,000 jobs will be created? If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is!
Why is it that politicians can’t seem to collaborate on common, basic ideas to benefit all? There have been some REALLY good ideas posted just on this thread! Um…make a design/plan that will enhance the downtown. FAIL. Propose a Bill that will have real economic impact and still be market-driven. FAIL. Let competition determine the best partnerships and vendors. FAIL. Consider existing taxpayer businesses, when looking at new concepts for growth. FAIL.
Anyway…There was a question about a hotel for AD and the location. I found this link: http://www.downtowncolumbus.com/progress.
Nothing is going to make everyone happy and how deeply can the buckeye hall of fame be marketed? This is the same layout as in IN and PA.
1. i have a higher tax rate than the casinos
2. i also hold the Ohio Constitution in high regard and do not wish to see it altered by ANY out of state business interest that is trying to circumvent the scrutiny this issue would receive if it actually was legislated.
one story or five. a concrete block building or the palace of versailles, is doesn’t make it a good economic deal for ohio.
I want the big sexy building!
Screw the casino!
If we’re going to legalize casinos in Ohio, why not just legalize casinos in Ohio, and leave it up to local zoning boards as to where they are? Why should the entire state of Ohio decide on whether or not there is a casino a mile from my home? Why amend the constitution so that there is a monopoly on casinos? The whole thing stinks. I’ve already marked my ballot “NO”.
“If we’re going to legalize casinos in Ohio, why not just legalize casinos in Ohio, and leave it up to local zoning boards as to where they are? ”
I agree with you Barbara, the location was a turn-off for me as well. Maybe if I had more time to consider it, I could come up with a better location….