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Pizzuti proposes Short North hotel
Project would include garage, office building
Thursday, February 14, 2008
BY MIKE PRAMIK
A local developer wants to build a hotel in the Short North across from Goodale Park, a major project that also would include a cultural center, office building and parking garage.
Pizzuti Cos. will unveil the project tonight to the Victorian Village Commission. It would occupy nearly an entire block of the Short North that includes the 1920s building housing the Order of the United Commercial Travelers of America, a fraternal society that offers insurance to its members.
Pizzuti Cos.’ preliminary concept for the project includes a 10-story, 160-room hotel fronting High Street, a parking garage with up to 500 spaces, a 40,000-50,000-square-foot office/residential building, Retail space totaling 12,000 square feet, and a cultural center in a restored portion of the United Commercial Travelers building, which faces the park.
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Pizzuti proposes Short North hotel
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We need 20 of these places on every main aterial of town. 7-10 stroy buildings. High, Broad, Sullivant, Summit, 4th, Niel, Mound, Livingston, Parsons, Lockbourne, Central, Main, 5th, Cleveland, Long, allova!
If we get to the point where we’re putting up a 10-story residence at the corner of 5th and Cleveland, I think we’ll seriously have moved up a league or two.
The parcel on that corner is big enough to put a skyscraper on … or three. I don’t know what is/was there, but that blasted, vacant lot (southeast corner) is bigger than the entire Jeffery Place project. (Google spy satellite it.)
I hope the Pizzuti’s have looked into places like the Chambers in Minneapolis:
[url]http://www.chambersminneapolis.com/[/url]
Considering Pizzuti’s own art collection, this could be a reality to combine the hotel with a gallery. At the Chambers, the lobby and public areas feature a 200 piece collection from the owner’s private collection.
Now I could not afford the Chambers. But if they want to build a really distinct boutique hotel, this is a route to look at.
Why would you have to? You live here! :D
Why would you have to? You live here! :D
Well, I guess I should say that when I was in MSP last June I could not afford the Chambers.
As for the Pizzuti project, I would like it to be high-end, just not so hoity-toity that is was obnoxious (which I am sure is a great variable and will be the subject of debate amongst all us denziens of the SN).
Did anyone go to the meeting Thursday?
Pau’s got an update posted on RetroMetro.
So this is sounding more and more like a sure thing.
Between this 500 space garage and the 250 space garage a few blocks down at Ibiza, can we stop talking about parking problems in the Short North? Would we still need on street parking?
i e-mailed a representative at pizzuti and got this response:
“Thank you for your interest in the mixed use/boutique hotel we are currently planning for in the Short North. We are advancing the project and moving forward with the overall project planning. We anticipate having an initial community meeting in late June to gather input from the neighbors to be incorporated in the plan and then will come back to the residents and business owners with the concepts we expect to submit to the Victorian Village Commision. The second meeting will be in mid-July. The community meetings will be held in the shelter at Goodale Park.
We will have more detailed information to you once the dates are set.”
sounds to me like this is a go. i asked for rendering, any rendering to give us some sort of idea, but i guess they don’t have any available.
+10!
+10!
from someone who does not live in the hood that is a strange opinion…it would be better from a neighborhood perspective if Goodale remained the jewel of the SN and was not overwhelmed by tall buildings. It is nice every once in a while to have nature and the trees be the dominant element in the landscape.
+10!
from someone who does not live in the hood that is a strange opinion…it would be better from a neighborhood perspective if Goodale remained the jewel of the SN and was not overwhelmed by tall buildings. It is nice every once in a while to have nature and the trees be the dominant element in the landscape.
Hmmm… would one large apartment building with reasonable rent (except perhaps making the top floors luxury penthouses) destroy the neighborhood aesthetics? That was all I was thinking. I’m not advocating turning Goodale Park into one massive block of skyscrapers. It isn’t like Central Park is threatened each time a new building goes up in the nearby vicinity.
Bring it on!
+10!
from someone who does not live in the hood that is a strange opinion…it would be better from a neighborhood perspective if Goodale remained the jewel of the SN and was not overwhelmed by tall buildings. It is nice every once in a while to have nature and the trees be the dominant element in the landscape.
Goodale Park is massive; it would take a lot of really high buildings to turn it into anything resembling a shadowy canyon. You could easily go up ten stories on all sides of it without cutting out significant amounts of sunlight.
sounds to me like this is a go. i asked for rendering, any rendering to give us some sort of idea, but i guess they don’t have any available.
it isnt designed yet. :wink:
+10!
from someone who does not live in the hood that is a strange opinion…it would be better from a neighborhood perspective if Goodale remained the jewel of the SN and was not overwhelmed by tall buildings. It is nice every once in a while to have nature and the trees be the dominant element in the landscape.
Goodale Park is massive; it would take a lot of really high buildings to turn it into anything resembling a shadowy canyon. You could easily go up ten stories on all sides of it without cutting out significant amounts of sunlight.
yikes, I doubt you truly understand the park and its nature. It is 33 acres hardly massive…it is not just about sunlight, but more about ambiance. Since you are an unfettered supporter of free market capitalism, I doubt externalities like that figure into the equation….also endless growth is unsustainable. The kicker is the historic nature of the park, 2nd oldest public park in the US, by some definitions. It is worth preserving as a historic area, not some post modern conglomeration of styles and sizes. There is tons of fallow land in the SN and in town for developers and the sky rise set to build up, it would be great for these folks to get in on the ground floor of redevelopment, instead of being the end stage parasites.
sounds to me like this is a go. i asked for rendering, any rendering to give us some sort of idea, but i guess they don’t have any available.
it isnt designed yet. :wink:
the development has not been designed yet. they have not even announced an architect. i am sure that the taller part of the building will be set back far enough that the height does not overwhelm Park Street or High Street. the Pizzuti’s have a good eye and care about aesthetics and flow. They have built one of the most architecturally significant buildings downtown (the AIA award-winning Miranova) and are overseeing the development of the new Franklin County Courthouse, which will also be a world class design.
They also own the Carlile building, which they have renovated to maintain the look and feel of the neighborhood.
They will add something really important to the Short North that only enhances the location. They also will be adding a Cultural Arts Center, which will feature the family’s collection. Ron Pizzuti has been named a top 200 collector in the world by ArtNews for many years. This, too, will be an outstanding addition to the Short North.
sounds to me like this is a go. i asked for rendering, any rendering to give us some sort of idea, but i guess they don’t have any available.
it isnt designed yet. :wink:
the development has not been designed yet. they have not even announced an architect. i am sure that the taller part of the building will be set back far enough that the height does not overwhelm Park Street or High Street. the Pizzuti’s have a good eye and care about aesthetics and flow. They have built one of the most architecturally significant buildings downtown (the AIA award-winning Miranova) and are overseeing the development of the new Franklin County Courthouse, which will also be a world class design.
They also own the Carlile building, which they have renovated to maintain the look and feel of the neighborhood.
They will add something really important to the Short North that only enhances the location. They also will be adding a Cultural Arts Center, which will feature the family’s collection. Ron Pizzuti has been named a top 200 collector in the world by ArtNews for many years. This, too, will be an outstanding addition to the Short North. Yep, love most of what pizzuti has done, I mean comparatively speaking, he cares about downtown (unlike Casto and Kass) and he gets it done (unlike Recchie.) For a developer, what more can you ask for, well other than mixed use appropriate urban design. But at least he gets the density right (unlike Edwards and Lifestyles.)
agreed. Pz at least tries to get it right.
The light issue is a serious consideration even though a single building’s shadow really wouldn’t be that big compared to the size of the park. More buildings alongside though, and it starts to get really noticeable. Anything on the southeast side would shade the park more in the winter, when it least needs the shade, but frankly I dont see where else you could really put a building there without taking out an entire row of houses. If you put a 10 story building there in the corner south of poplar it would cast quite a shadow in the mornings. Now, if you put a 10 story building on the northwest corner you could provide shade on summer evenings when it would be nice to have the park space cool down faster, but doing that would be amazingly disruptive to the neighborhood culture.
just kinda thinking “out loud” here.
I agree with Grammaraye for the first time ever.
It would take lots of very tall building to block out the sun in the park.
Plus, don’t people like the shade?
I approve of this project thus far.