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		<title>By: Invisible Parking &#171; Xing Columbus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Invisible Parking &#171; Xing Columbus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 20:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] park&#8221; in Columbus. The first place that comes to mind is the Short North, where new parking garages are periodically discussed as a way to ease a supposed parking crunch.  But is is really hard to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] park&#8221; in Columbus. The first place that comes to mind is the Short North, where new parking garages are periodically discussed as a way to ease a supposed parking crunch.  But is is really hard to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 13:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I can&#039;t wait to see this new place go up! ;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://columbusretrometro.typepad.com/columbus_retrometro/images/urbanoasis.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait to see this new place go up! ;)</p>
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		<title>By: dru</title>
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		<dc:creator>dru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;did anyone else notice that the AAA rental service has finally moved out of this building?  we walked by saturday afternoon during the hop, and all of the brass candelabras, popcorn machines and other inventory was gone.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;looks like demolition might be in the near future? i hope it comes soon, if we have a few more harsh storms, and that overhand might collapse on its own.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;oh, and 1st floor - yeehah.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>did anyone else notice that the AAA rental service has finally moved out of this building?  we walked by saturday afternoon during the hop, and all of the brass candelabras, popcorn machines and other inventory was gone.  </p>
<p>looks like demolition might be in the near future? i hope it comes soon, if we have a few more harsh storms, and that overhand might collapse on its own.  </p>
<p>oh, and 1st floor &#8211; yeehah.</p>
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		<title>By: Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;art lyfe wrote &lt;/cite&gt;That spot was used to house a buisness that never relied on a storefront identity. They were a banquet service company that rented equipment for large events. The owner is a dear friend of my family and organizer of OSU best tailgate for years. He recently became very ill and is now bound to a wheelcair. His service and tailgate will be missed by many, but I&#039;m quick to agree that it would help the face of the short north to improve to cosmetics of that storefront.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I actually remember seeing some equipment in there that looked like catering equipment when I peeked in when walking by awhile ago, but I wasn&#039;t sure if it was a business, or just being used for storage space since I don&#039;t ever remember seeing the lights on in there (or are the windows just THAT dark?). Either way, I&#039;m not wishing for the business to go away, just the ugly building. If the business could stick around and just relocate that would be cool. Sorry to hear about your family friend though. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; :?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><cite>art lyfe wrote </cite>That spot was used to house a buisness that never relied on a storefront identity. They were a banquet service company that rented equipment for large events. The owner is a dear friend of my family and organizer of OSU best tailgate for years. He recently became very ill and is now bound to a wheelcair. His service and tailgate will be missed by many, but I&#8217;m quick to agree that it would help the face of the short north to improve to cosmetics of that storefront.</p></blockquote>
<p>I actually remember seeing some equipment in there that looked like catering equipment when I peeked in when walking by awhile ago, but I wasn&#8217;t sure if it was a business, or just being used for storage space since I don&#8217;t ever remember seeing the lights on in there (or are the windows just THAT dark?). Either way, I&#8217;m not wishing for the business to go away, just the ugly building. If the business could stick around and just relocate that would be cool. Sorry to hear about your family friend though. </p>
<p> :?</p>
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		<title>By: art lyfe</title>
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		<dc:creator>art lyfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Walker wrote &lt;/cite&gt;It&#039;s really not too bad to park when you know where to look. Anne &amp; I hit the gallery hop nearly every month and we&#039;re always parked within a few minutes, and just have a short walk to high.  8) &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But yeah, I&#039;d love to see this new development happen. I&#039;ve been a fan of tearing down that FUGLY building for a long time. It&#039;s always looked like such a waste of space.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img width=&quot;500&quot; src=&quot;http://209.51.193.89/photo/20031012/OC094725.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That spot was used to house a buisness that never relied on a storefront identity. They were a banquet service company that rented equipment for large events. The owner is a dear friend of my family and organizer of OSU best tailgate for years. He recently became very ill and is now bound to a wheelcair. His service and tailgate will be missed by many, but I&#039;m quick to agree that it would help the face of the short north to improve to cosmetics of that storefront.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><cite>Walker wrote </cite>It&#8217;s really not too bad to park when you know where to look. Anne &amp; I hit the gallery hop nearly every month and we&#8217;re always parked within a few minutes, and just have a short walk to high.  8) </p></blockquote>
<p>But yeah, I&#8217;d love to see this new development happen. I&#8217;ve been a fan of tearing down that FUGLY building for a long time. It&#8217;s always looked like such a waste of space.</p>
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<p>That spot was used to house a buisness that never relied on a storefront identity. They were a banquet service company that rented equipment for large events. The owner is a dear friend of my family and organizer of OSU best tailgate for years. He recently became very ill and is now bound to a wheelcair. His service and tailgate will be missed by many, but I&#8217;m quick to agree that it would help the face of the short north to improve to cosmetics of that storefront.</p>
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		<title>By: Likes Old Houses</title>
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		<dc:creator>Likes Old Houses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Did anyone go to the Italin Village Commission meeting last night to see of this got approved?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 22:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s really not too bad to park when you know where to look. Anne &amp; I hit the gallery hop nearly every month and we&#039;re always parked within a few minutes, and just have a short walk to high.  8) &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But yeah, I&#039;d love to see this new development happen. I&#039;ve been a fan of tearing down that FUGLY building for a long time. It&#039;s always looked like such a waste of space.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img width=&quot;500&quot; src=&quot;http://209.51.193.89/photo/20031012/OC094725.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really not too bad to park when you know where to look. Anne &amp; I hit the gallery hop nearly every month and we&#8217;re always parked within a few minutes, and just have a short walk to high.  8) </p>
<p>But yeah, I&#8217;d love to see this new development happen. I&#8217;ve been a fan of tearing down that FUGLY building for a long time. It&#8217;s always looked like such a waste of space.</p>
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		<title>By: gramarye</title>
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		<dc:creator>gramarye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 22:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Certainly looks like a good spot to me ... from the diagram in that Dispatch article, it looked like it was set about a half-block back from High St., enough to be nearly completely hidden from view by the tower but close enough to be an effortless walk.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I was lucky while I was at OSU; COTA was free and it was an easy ride down the #2 to get to the Short North.  Most folks who wanted to go to Gallery Hop (or, heaven forbid, just to shop or grab an overpriced cup of coffee) didn&#039;t have it so well; the few times I drove down there with others, it often took a darn long while to find a parking spot.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly looks like a good spot to me &#8230; from the diagram in that Dispatch article, it looked like it was set about a half-block back from High St., enough to be nearly completely hidden from view by the tower but close enough to be an effortless walk.</p>
<p>I was lucky while I was at OSU; COTA was free and it was an easy ride down the #2 to get to the Short North.  Most folks who wanted to go to Gallery Hop (or, heaven forbid, just to shop or grab an overpriced cup of coffee) didn&#8217;t have it so well; the few times I drove down there with others, it often took a darn long while to find a parking spot.</p>
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		<title>By: Walker</title>
		<link>http://www.columbusunderground.com/new-project-proposed-for-short-north-italian-village/comment-page-1#comment-244</link>
		<dc:creator>Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 21:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.dispatch.com/2006/11/20/20061120-Pc-G4-0800.jpg&quot; align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;Condo developer hopes to include garage with Short North project&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Monday, November 20, 2006&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mike Pramik&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Public parking is in short supply in the Short North. But a central Ohio development team plans to address that need as part of a residential proposal.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Arms Properties is floating an idea to build a 250-space public-parking garage as part of a project that would include a 10-story, 179-unit condominium building. Ibiza Urban Oasis would rise in the place of a nondescript office building in the 800 block of N. High Street.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The classic urban-infill project is across the street from Arms PropertiesÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ Dakota condo building, which is expected to be occupied in February. Rajesh Lahoti, a co-owner of the development company, said he thinks IbizaÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s biggest asset could be a three-level, publicparking garage.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;The lack of public parking in the Short North has held us back, especially the business district,&quot; Lahoti said. &quot;ItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s hurt merchants a lot. This would solve that problem.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lahoti, who with his partners owns three Short North nightclubs and three residential projects including the Dakota, said Arms Properties would operate the garage through a third-party company. He said theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re still working out financial details, but he thinks the condos and garage could be built by the end of 2008.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Condominium owners would have access to underground parking between the building and the garage. The plans also call for a row of townhouses running along Hubbard Street.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dispatch.com/business-story.php?story=dispatch/2006/11/20/20061120-G4-01.html&quot;&gt;READ MORE&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><img src="http://www.dispatch.com/2006/11/20/20061120-Pc-G4-0800.jpg" align="right"/>Condo developer hopes to include garage with Short North project</p></blockquote>
<p>Monday, November 20, 2006</p>
<p>Mike Pramik</p>
<p>THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH</p>
<p>Public parking is in short supply in the Short North. But a central Ohio development team plans to address that need as part of a residential proposal.</p>
<p>Arms Properties is floating an idea to build a 250-space public-parking garage as part of a project that would include a 10-story, 179-unit condominium building. Ibiza Urban Oasis would rise in the place of a nondescript office building in the 800 block of N. High Street.</p>
<p>The classic urban-infill project is across the street from Arms PropertiesÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ Dakota condo building, which is expected to be occupied in February. Rajesh Lahoti, a co-owner of the development company, said he thinks IbizaÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s biggest asset could be a three-level, publicparking garage.</p>
<p>&#8220;The lack of public parking in the Short North has held us back, especially the business district,&#8221; Lahoti said. &#8220;ItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s hurt merchants a lot. This would solve that problem.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lahoti, who with his partners owns three Short North nightclubs and three residential projects including the Dakota, said Arms Properties would operate the garage through a third-party company. He said theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re still working out financial details, but he thinks the condos and garage could be built by the end of 2008.</p>
<p>Condominium owners would have access to underground parking between the building and the garage. The plans also call for a row of townhouses running along Hubbard Street.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dispatch.com/business-story.php?story=dispatch/2006/11/20/20061120-G4-01.html">READ MORE</a></p>
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		<title>By: gramarye</title>
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		<dc:creator>gramarye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I do not know this Borat.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But he seems to me to be a wise man.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;NIIICE indeed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>But he seems to me to be a wise man.</p>
<p>NIIICE indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In the words of Borat: &quot;NIIICE!&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; 8)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the words of Borat: &#8220;NIIICE!&#8221;</p>
<p> 8)</p>
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		<title>By: Columbusite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Columbusite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here&#039;s a rendering from CRM:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;http://columbusretrometro.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/urbanoasis.jpg&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a rendering from CRM:</p>
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		<title>By: Columbusite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Columbusite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 18:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the insight. And you&#039;re right about streets going east/west vs Highh St, but if/when shops/retail/etc are vying for locations on the streetcar route on those streets the residential demand will be there too, though not necessarily for 10 story buildings. It will certainly be quite some time before that happens if it does, but it looks like a streetcar route would speed up gentrification. Sure, the area may not offer much in the way of interesting things nearby, but just being on the route to places that do have a lot to offer  is quite an incentive.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the insight. And you&#8217;re right about streets going east/west vs Highh St, but if/when shops/retail/etc are vying for locations on the streetcar route on those streets the residential demand will be there too, though not necessarily for 10 story buildings. It will certainly be quite some time before that happens if it does, but it looks like a streetcar route would speed up gentrification. Sure, the area may not offer much in the way of interesting things nearby, but just being on the route to places that do have a lot to offer  is quite an incentive.</p>
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		<title>By: gramarye</title>
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		<dc:creator>gramarye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 23:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe.  There&#039;s some truth to the fact that poorer neighborhoods tend to be less politically powerful, even within their own borders.  However, there&#039;s also the more basic issue of supply and demand to consider.  The reason these developers want to put up 10 stories of residential along High St. in the Short North is that there are that many people that really want to live along High St. in the Short North.  That corner is a very marketable address.  Streetcar or no streetcar, random corners on the East and West side don&#039;t have the same potential.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Supporters of neighborhood governments on these issues can tell euphonic stories about &quot;preserving neighborhood character,&quot; etc., but there&#039;s usually a darker side: by creating government-mandated supply shortages (forcing there to be 3 stories where there&#039;s demand for 10), insiders (those who&#039;ve already bought in) can artificially increase the value of their own properties in elections where they wield all the power because the interests of prospective residents are unrepresented.  It&#039;s the same principle underlying exclusionary zoning.  You get to effectively soak the &quot;outsiders,&quot; those on the outside looking in, by making sure there&#039;s not enough housing for everyone who wants in, forcing them to bid up prices to buy into the neighborhood ... at which time, they become the next &quot;insiders&quot; because they paid the supply-shortage premium to get in, and will want everyone else to have to do so, too (and will need to keep that premium in place to recover the price they paid, ceteris paribus), perpetuating the cycle.  It&#039;s a hard cycle to break, and often requires action by a higher authority (i.e., state government, which represents a broader sphere, placing limits on exclusionary zoning by local authorities), but this is very difficult to accomplish.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe.  There&#8217;s some truth to the fact that poorer neighborhoods tend to be less politically powerful, even within their own borders.  However, there&#8217;s also the more basic issue of supply and demand to consider.  The reason these developers want to put up 10 stories of residential along High St. in the Short North is that there are that many people that really want to live along High St. in the Short North.  That corner is a very marketable address.  Streetcar or no streetcar, random corners on the East and West side don&#8217;t have the same potential.</p>
<p>Supporters of neighborhood governments on these issues can tell euphonic stories about &#8220;preserving neighborhood character,&#8221; etc., but there&#8217;s usually a darker side: by creating government-mandated supply shortages (forcing there to be 3 stories where there&#8217;s demand for 10), insiders (those who&#8217;ve already bought in) can artificially increase the value of their own properties in elections where they wield all the power because the interests of prospective residents are unrepresented.  It&#8217;s the same principle underlying exclusionary zoning.  You get to effectively soak the &#8220;outsiders,&#8221; those on the outside looking in, by making sure there&#8217;s not enough housing for everyone who wants in, forcing them to bid up prices to buy into the neighborhood &#8230; at which time, they become the next &#8220;insiders&#8221; because they paid the supply-shortage premium to get in, and will want everyone else to have to do so, too (and will need to keep that premium in place to recover the price they paid, ceteris paribus), perpetuating the cycle.  It&#8217;s a hard cycle to break, and often requires action by a higher authority (i.e., state government, which represents a broader sphere, placing limits on exclusionary zoning by local authorities), but this is very difficult to accomplish.</p>
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		<title>By: Columbusite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Columbusite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think we&#039;ll see more higher density development in the future when we have a streetcar line along Broad, mostly because poorer neighborhoods tend to get ignored, so whether they want a bunch of 10 story buildings or not they &#039;d get built.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#8217;ll see more higher density development in the future when we have a streetcar line along Broad, mostly because poorer neighborhoods tend to get ignored, so whether they want a bunch of 10 story buildings or not they &#8216;d get built.</p>
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