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A new joint venture between Elford Development and Wagenbrenner Development recently announced that they have entered into a purchasing agreement with Apex Realty Enterprises on the former Ibiza condo development site, located at 830 North High Street in the Short North.
Their proposed project includes a five-story mixed-use building that includes four stories of residential units and ground level retail and restaurant space facing High Street. The project also includes a parking garage structure for residential use and an additional 250 parking spaces for public use.
This new proposal follows a similar development proposal announced in March by Schiff Capital Group, who wants to develop something closer to the original Ibiza proposal with an eight-to-ten story residential tower.
Which of the two proposals do you think would be a better fit for the site?
Some additional discussion on this new development, HERE: http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/topic/ibiza-will-this-project-ever-happen/page/32#post-386136
Again Mehhhh
The Waggenbrenner proposal looks kind of “safe”, although I do like those warehouse-type windows. I just hope, if built, it doen’t resemble the Dakota and its half ass attempt. Have their been any renderings of the Schiff proposal anywhere? I’d personally rather see the tower go in but again, I’ve yet to hear much of anything on the other proposal. In any case, I hope whoever wins over the commision can get this built ASAP. That corner is an eyesore. The public parking will be a great addition for businesses as well.
Boring it may be, but with the way the market is headed, erecting anything on that site would be a miracle. I’d take a smaller, less flashy building over another Ibiza saga.
Yeah, at this point, I’m kind of in the “whatever has a better chance of being built” camp. I am so tired of that empty lot. I like the Schiff render better, but if this has a better chance of actually happening, I’m fine with it.
I’m glad they went with brick and the older style architecture. Much prefer that over the modernist tripe we’ve gotten a little further north. Nice also that it’s only five stories. I’d hate for the Short North to turn into an urban canyon. Overdevelopment isn’t a sign of a neighborhood’s success, and I think Ibiza demonstrates that.
great idea. just think it should be rental units because Short North already has enough condos available for purchase. Just look at the Windsor in Grandview that is rental only …. filled up in months flat.
My wife and I have looked at two homes that sit just behind that empty lot over the last year or so. Had this news come out earlier I’m sure it would’ve influenced our decision at least a little. Waking up to that empty gravel pit every day was a depressing thought. Nice to think that (someday soon) this project will not only bolster the home values immediately surrounding it but that of the Short North and Italian Village as well.
I agree with comments surrounding the choice of materials. Brick is better! Now if we could just whitewash it….
@KellyOrtman
It is designated for apartments at the present time.
I for one think it looks great.
I think whatever will have a best chance to sell in this market with room for improvement as the Real Estate market gets better.
I think this is a better scale for the neighborhood. I can’t wait to see some activity on this property, but fear that the court issues will hold-up progress for a long, long time.
This will look nice in the short north,,, property value will go up,, and rent will increase… living in a nice area will break you
Good choice to scale down the height but maybe 4 is better than 5, especially sitting so close to the street/sidewalk. And apartments are smart, glad to see that. I also echo concerns / comments about the exterior. Does the entity exists in the Short North to guide / direct the look of a building have sufficient power? I remember reading some good comments from it that helped the Hubbard Grill. Feel like more influence is definitely needed to keep a bit of the historical touch and architectural flourishes that makes the Short North interesting. The Dakota and Jackson on High both fail to conjour up the spirit of the Short North, or much character in general. So while this building is ok, its just boring and safe. Nothing that will stand out or add to the character of the neighborhood.
Hmmm. I like the Jackson. To each his own. But yea, the Dakota is a sorry excuse.
i don’t necessarily like the jackson, but i do like that it has some depth and isn’t completely flush with the sidewalk. this building seems rather monolithic, much like the dakota, and will once again prove to outsiders that columbusites will always settle with the pragmatic “what’s best for now” rather than the “what’s best” argument.
I don’t understand…what is wrong with having 8-11 stories? I think such density would be good for the short north, especially given the location nearer the southern end closer to downtown. I think the short north is screaming for density. And it’s not like it’s in either of the villages…it’s on High Street, the vital spine of Columbus for chrissakes. Also as others have pointed out, the façade is quite uninspiring. However, as much as I hate it, I must admit that some development is better than none, and remembering what used to be there (notwithstanding the current gross empty lot…) well, yeah. But honestly, I find buildings that don’t sit flush with the sidewalk to be an odd design. Why do you need that extra space? Unless you want to widen the sidewalks to accomodate increased pedestrian traffic. That’s the only reason I’d scale back the side of the building. :D Whatever. Hope something gets built there…it would be a great addition to the neighborhood. Just hope Columbus doesn’t just settle. It deserves awesome.
boring and risky. more demoralizing than an empty lot would be an ugly vacant building that eventually has tacky signage all over it signaling that they cant sell the spaces and they are now available for “0% down”, “lease to purchase”, etc. i think the area is dense enough, plus this would further skew the demographic toward a homogenous yuppieville and leave behind the “arts district” it once was.
how bout a small park with a subtle water feature sculpted by locals, tables/chairs/benches, wifi?
Just curious… without knowing the costs, amenities, or really anything else about the proposed residential units… what makes you think that they wouldn’t sell?
Furthermore, I don’t think it’s even been said if these would be apartments or condos. It sounds like your doomsday scenario is making a lot of assumptions this far out.
As far the the whole arts district goes, who’s to say that gallery spaces or creative businesses won’t inhabit some of the retail spaces in this building?
I think it looks great. What makes the short north so special is the storefronts and the stores within it. More stores/galleries/creative businesses the better.