Development| Published on March 14, 2008 11:34 am

Lifestyle building affordable downtown housing

By: Walker


Lifestyle Communities Ltd. will spend $25 million to build 130 apartments and 76 condos on 2.8 acres along South Front Street between West Town and Rich streets.

The project will target a market of young, professional workers with condos selling for less than $200,000 on average and rent beginning at $750 a month.

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  • CDS sherman wrote well that was what some CEO said for the company.. who knows maybe so but i still want to hear valid complaints about wood construction. any builders or architechs on here……

    I’m the one that originally mentioned having an issue with wood construction, and i’m an architect. I don’t have an issue with wood construction in general, just with its application here. I don’t think its an appropriate method for multi-unit projects, because the developer grade housing is a “slap it up quickly and cheaply” mentality that only serves one purpose, to make as much money per dollar spent as possible. That mentality won’t serve us well, or the future owners of these condos.

    Wood construction on single family homes built by custom builders is a different story.

  • OTE is ghetto.

    Franklinton Is ghetto .

    right before Bexly Ghetto

    Campus may look pretty with it’s flashy buildings but it is still ghetto .

    thats 4 sides

    Columbus is a shit ball place flat out they can try to make it better but they like spending money on stuff that should come at a later date . thats all i am saying

  • misskitty wrote OTE is ghetto.

    Franklinton Is ghetto .

    right before Bexly Ghetto

    Campus may look pretty with it’s flashy buildings but it is still ghetto .

    thats 4 sides

    Columbus is a shit ball place flat out they can try to make it better but they like spending money on stuff that should come at a later date . thats all i am saying

    you offer a very compelling argument.

  • Oh! Well if you would have just come out and said that “Columbus is a shit ball place”, then I would have ignored your comment from the beginning. I thought you might be working towards using logic to make a point. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

  • gee, what do you think the term “ghetto” means in this particular argument?

  • I might have to change the location in my avatar to “Shit Ball Place”…. yep, I do

  • it is the truth people who visit columbus from other places will say it is a slum and dirty place the point i was trying to make was, if you build to quick and to many places with the market being as tarnished as it is. It will not hold up and will be infultrated with people who dont care how it looks.

    thats the point , i know right you think i am just insane but you have not paid any attention to what I said about surrounding areas Vicky village was at one point the ghetto as well in case you forgot.

    at One point Franklinton was a up class place Look at it now.

  • victorian gate is wood construction. now im saying there qaulity built. but ive been in them. there not bad. i see your point, i really do. one thing to keep in mind is that there not being built to residential single family building code. beefier floor joists, if were lucky maybe 2×6 walls. then its all clad in brick. multi family unit buildings obviosly are built with the commercial code in mind. i mean if you look at 60 spring, dakota, so on and so forth. 25gauge steel framing for walls is too flimsy, too much deflection. but its allowed. steal buildings are better im not going to argue that. its the partition framing that bothers me. the doors become loose. have to use anchors for everything. im just not a huge fan of the methods that are being used in these condo buildings.

  • misskitty wrote

    at One point Franklinton was a up class place Look at it now.

    franklinton has always been a working class neighborhood. ive lived here my whole life, shortnorth, OTE, born and raised . and your generalized statements really sound very ignorant. im sorry but i calls it as i sees it…..

  • Ok. Back on topic.

    Thanks,

    Walker

  • So how about that affordable housing, eh?

    A block off the Scioto Mile Promenade. A block off of the propose streetcar line. A couple blocks from the dead center of downtown at Broad and High. A couple blocks from a redeveloped city center mall.

    They sure do know how to pick the spots for low cost units!

    How long does everyone think these units will remain “low cost”? 6 months? 2 years? Forever?

  • CDS sherman wrote victorian gate is wood construction. now im saying there qaulity built. but ive been in them. there not bad. i see your point, i really do. one thing to keep in mind is that there not being built to residential single family building code. beefier floor joists, if were lucky maybe 2×6 walls. then its all clad in brick. multi family unit buildings obviosly are built with the commercial code in mind. i mean if you look at 60 spring, dakota, so on and so forth. 25gauge steel framing for walls is too flimsy, too much deflection. but its allowed. steal buildings are better im not going to argue that. its the partition framing that bothers me. the doors become loose. have to use anchors for everything. im just not a huge fan of the methods that are being used in these condo buildings.

    I had a little trouble following this, and I’m actually interested in what some of those terms mean, so I’m not trying to play the miss-kitty-card on you.

    VG is not being built to residential single family building code? Are the standards lower for multifamily, which is what VG is?

    Why are beefier floor joists a bad thing?

    Also, first you knock wood-frame construction, then you also say 25-gauge steel framing is too flimsy …

    Anyway. Confused, but actually interested.

  • rightly said….

  • sorry, VG or any muti fam unit building has to be built to higher standards then a single family home. now higher standards dont mean stone counters and bamboo floors. it means rather than using a 2×8 floor joist for a 10 ft span at 16 on center, the use of engineered joists or slab and pillar construction. fire ratings are different. mechanicals are spec’ed differently. like rather than a 14/2 with ground romex, you have to use bx or mc clad wire. fire stop is used everywhere theres a penetration to another level or unit. 4in drains not 3in. the list goes on and on. the code tends to follow commercial guidlines.

    i dont think i was knocking wood construction, i was just wondering what all the negativity about wood construction was about. i think people tend to lump that method in with cheaply built homes. they are a primarly a suburban developer, but there are many projects around town that are wood stick built [meaning built on site mostly piece by piece] or wood panelized [ meaning large portions such as floors and load walls are prefabed in a plant] projects that are beautiful and very high end. i was reffering to the 25gauge steel framing as very lightweight and really not a good fit for division walls for condos or apartments as the material tends to be flexable and noisy even after sheetrock.

    i know i can be all over the place in my posts so im sorry for the lack of sentence structure and grammer. :lol:

  • gosh back on topic i guess lol .

    my house is about 80 years old the structure of it is fine it is made of a good qulity so I am sure the wood constuction would hold up. I think that the suburbin homes tend to be weakly made sometimes only becouse , some of them if you drive by on a rainy day and look at the roofs you can see the shape of the beems in them . IDK i am sure thease will trur out ok .

    I do agree with someone who mentioned the design and making them more unique I myself am a fan of design.

    *edit*

  • Walker wrote Ok. Back on topic.

    Thanks,

    Walker

    am i the only one walker picks on here? :lol:

  • misskitty wrote it is the truth people who visit columbus from other places will say it is a slum and dirty place the point i was trying to make was, if you build to quick and to many places with the market being as tarnished as it is. It will not hold up and will be infultrated with people who dont care how it looks.

    thats the point , i know right you think i am just insane but you have not paid any attention to what I said about surrounding areas Vicky village was at one point the ghetto as well in case you forgot.

    at One point Franklinton was a up class place Look at it now.

    Really, who are you talking to? All the visitors that come to Columbus? After 5pm and on weekends I would say Columbus is quiet, almost desolate in the downtown, but I would not say its dirty. But this is coming from someone who said that Franklinton was once for the upper class…sorry not since Lucas Sullivant himself lived there has it been decent.

  • BetsyB wrote

    But this is coming from someone who said that Franklinton was once for the upper class…sorry not since Lucas Sullivant himself lived there has it been decent.

    log cabins, factories and flood plains were real upper class… :lol:

  • BetsyB wrote
    misskitty wrote it is the truth people who visit columbus from other places will say it is a slum and dirty place the point i was trying to make was, if you build to quick and to many places with the market being as tarnished as it is. It will not hold up and will be infultrated with people who dont care how it looks.

    thats the point , i know right you think i am just insane but you have not paid any attention to what I said about surrounding areas Vicky village was at one point the ghetto as well in case you forgot.

    at One point Franklinton was a up class place Look at it now.

    Really, who are you talking to? All the visitors that come to Columbus? After 5pm and on weekends I would say Columbus is quiet, almost desolate in the downtown, but I would not say its dirty. But this is coming from someone who said that Franklinton was once for the upper class…sorry not since Lucas Sullivant himself lived there has it been decent.

    sorry for before i got a little off track but sometimes it happens.

    it was thriving so you must agree that at one point it was better then it is now witch was my point in the first few posts but you missed the fact that we are now back on topic thanks

  • CDS sherman wrote the code tends to follow commercial guidlines.

    If I remember correctly from my Columbus multi-family days, 4 or more residential units in a building is considered commercial code and must be built to meet commercial code. Might be 3 or more, but you get the point. It’s commercial code, not residential for these puppies. These ugly, un-lovable puppies.

    For this size of building, there’s nothing wrong with wood frame construction. The problems will come when the developer builds them with the cheapest grade lumber they can buy, with the cheapest most unskilled labor they can find, and wrap it all up with the cheapest finishes they can find. Which I can guarantee they will do. I can’t wait for them to use cheap brick that looks pink instead of red. And the vinyl siding on the back side of the buildings. Zexy!

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