Nitsud Regnifloh
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i mean this. no offense to anyone who loves the SN, or Gallery Hop...but, i personally feel that it is a little overrated and to reference Walker, i have become a little jaded by the G. Hop.
i would much rather stroll around the SN on a lazy Sunday or Saturday. no way will you find me among the crowds on 1st Saturday.
i feel for Paul Robinett...it's a shame. now watch, that restaurant will become the next high end to bote the dust. 6 months.
aaronpitcock
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Lots of good points made in this thread. There are still many affordable places coming available for rent in Short North, and the property owners really do value the arts and galleries. The High Street storefronts might be best suited for restaurants now, but going right around the corner leads to many artistic spaces. I'm also seeing more young professionals leasing office space in SN, which helps the daytime vibe, provides a good lunch crowd, and also patronizes the galleries/boutique shops. It really is an amazing example of a true "mixed use" neighborhood. There are also some very cool projects coming in the near future that will boost the overall experience of SN even more!
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von wrote >>
i mean this. no offense to anyone who loves the SN, or Gallery Hop...but, i personally feel that it is a little overrated and to reference Walker, i have become a little jaded by the G. Hop.
i would much rather stroll around the SN on a lazy Sunday or Saturday. no way will you find me among the crowds on 1st Saturday.
i feel for Paul Robinett...it's a shame. now watch, that restaurant will become the next high end to bote the dust. 6 months.
Which restaurant?
Nitsud Regnifloh
Valerio Heights
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byJody wrote >>
Link to the WOSU story mentioned
the one mentioned in here.
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manticore33
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Honestly, I really enjoy the gallery hop (parking aside, though if you park North, it is easier). It is nice to be in the Short North late and having more options than food or drinks. I like the latter, but I also love roaming stores and living out-of-town making the 5-7 p.m. close time is difficult. We did some shopping this past hop and highly recommend Undone; the ladies were very nice and took good care of the wife. Plus, they are a SBB partner.
Walker
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The audio from All Sides is now online:
First hour: http://streaming.osu.edu/wosu/allsides/030810aOL.mp3
WOSU TV airs the Columbus Neighborhoods documentaryâ€â€The Short North this evening at 8 PM, the largest project in WOSU history, and the history of the revitalized Short North neighborhood that inspired the first documentary, with WOSU TV Producer Mary Rathke and WOSU Arts Programming Executive Producer Cindy Gaillard, and Short North Developer Sandy Wood. Recorded March 8, 2010.
Second Hour: http://streaming.osu.edu/wosu/allsides/030810bOL.mp3
The role of art galleries in the development of the Short North arts district, and the importance of the arts to urban living in the U.S., with Studios on High manager Judy Hoberg, Mahan Gallery owner Jacquie Mahan, and ColumbusUnderground.com founder Walker Evans. Recorded March 8, 2010.
Rastapasta
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Natural cycle of gentrification --- no surprise here.
We are already seeing the art scene expand to other neighborhoods throughout the city which I think is exciting.
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gramarye
In Exile
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alove wrote >>
Rastapasta wrote >>
Natural cycle of gentrification --- no surprise here.
We are already seeing the art scene expand to other neighborhoods throughout the city which I think is exciting.Such a shame. Once bohemian, now yuppie central.
What up Franklinton??!
I don't think it's a shame at all. One neighborhood redeveloped + more now redeveloping as the wave spreads in search of cheaper square footage > no neighborhoods redeveloped.
The gentrification of the Short North, Victorian Village, Italian Village, German Village, and a lot of the other inner neighborhoods are one major reason Columbus' finances are in better shape than many other Ohio cities. If we had enacted anti-gentrification measures to cap the growth at some point in order to preserve "character" or "affordability" or some other such nebulous concept, not only would the revitalization wave never had to spread, but the existing Short North would be less of a blessing for the city.
I can only look forward to the day when the artists are all forced out of Weinland Park because a new Weinland Park condo sells for $280,000 and rents for $1600/mo., and Sweeney and Sherman are grumbling about how their property taxes are skyrocketing because Franklinton has been completely redeveloped and is starting to run short on land for new development or restoration. As "problems" go, that's the kind of "problem" you have when you win the lottery and suddenly friends are asking you for money. It might lead to a few awkward moments, but you wouldn't be about to return the ticket.
cyclist II
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gramarye wrote >>
alove wrote >>
Rastapasta wrote >>
Natural cycle of gentrification --- no surprise here.
We are already seeing the art scene expand to other neighborhoods throughout the city which I think is exciting.Such a shame. Once bohemian, now yuppie central.
What up Franklinton??!I don't think it's a shame at all. One neighborhood redeveloped + more now redeveloping as the wave spreads in search of cheaper square footage > no neighborhoods redeveloped.
The gentrification of the Short North, Victorian Village, Italian Village, German Village, and a lot of the other inner neighborhoods are one major reason Columbus' finances are in better shape than many other Ohio cities. If we had enacted anti-gentrification measures to cap the growth at some point in order to preserve "character" or "affordability" or some other such nebulous concept, not only would the revitalization wave never had to spread, but the existing Short North would be less of a blessing for the city.
I can only look forward to the day when the artists are all forced out of Weinland Park because a new Weinland Park condo sells for $280,000 and rents for $1600/mo., and Sweeney and Sherman are grumbling about how their property taxes are skyrocketing because Franklinton has been completely redeveloped and is starting to run short on land for new development or restoration. As "problems" go, that's the kind of "problem" you have when you win the lottery and suddenly friends are asking you for money. It might lead to a few awkward moments, but you wouldn't be about to return the ticket.
Sherman is already grumbling about his property taxes.
berdawn
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gramarye wrote >>
alove wrote >>
Rastapasta wrote >>
Natural cycle of gentrification --- no surprise here.
We are already seeing the art scene expand to other neighborhoods throughout the city which I think is exciting.Such a shame. Once bohemian, now yuppie central.
What up Franklinton??!I can only look forward to the day when the artists are all forced out of Weinland Park because a new Weinland Park condo sells for $280,000 and rents for $1600/mo., and Sweeney and Sherman are grumbling about how their property taxes are skyrocketing because Franklinton has been completely redeveloped and is starting to run short on land for new development or restoration.
From you lips to Gods' ears...but as I've posted in other threads, that scenario isn't very likely in WP. There is too much money being made by keeping that area as is. If someone had been turning a profit on the SN or in GV BEFORE it gentrified, s/h would have worked to make sure the status quo was undisturbed.
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Walker wrote >> And lastly, we briefly discussed the parking issues in the Short North and how crowded it gets during Gallery Hop. We ran out of time to explore that topic further, but I'm of the belief that we have more of a "transit" problem than we do a "parking" problem. Adding 500 new parking spaces in the Ibiza Garage & Boutique Hotel Garage will be nice in a few years, but it doesn't take a transportation engineer to tell you that when you make new room for automobiles, traffic and usage will rise more quickly to fill that usage. We're not going to be able to build enough parking garages to accommodate all of the traffic that will be coming to the neighborhood as the area continues to grow. What we really need is a revamped bus plan though the Short North that streamlines travel times (actuated signals for bus priority) and another good hard look at rail transit, be it streetcars on High Street or Light Rail on Third & Fourth Streets.
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gramarye
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berdawn wrote >>
gramarye wrote >>
alove wrote >>
Rastapasta wrote >>
Natural cycle of gentrification --- no surprise here.
We are already seeing the art scene expand to other neighborhoods throughout the city which I think is exciting.Such a shame. Once bohemian, now yuppie central.
What up Franklinton??!I can only look forward to the day when the artists are all forced out of Weinland Park because a new Weinland Park condo sells for $280,000 and rents for $1600/mo., and Sweeney and Sherman are grumbling about how their property taxes are skyrocketing because Franklinton has been completely redeveloped and is starting to run short on land for new development or restoration.
From you lips to Gods' ears...but as I've posted in other threads, that scenario isn't very likely in WP. There is too much money being made by keeping that area as is. If someone had been turning a profit on the SN or in GV BEFORE it gentrified, s/h would have worked to make sure the status quo was undisturbed.
Just because there's money being made in the area "as is" doesn't mean there couldn't *also* be money to be made in redeveloping it. There's more than one way to make money on real estate. There were also people making substantial amounts of money as absentee landlords in Victorian Village 20 years ago by subdividing gorgeous old Victorians into 4 units and renting them for more than the mortgages on what were, at the time, somewhat run-down properties. Ultimately, that didn't stop the revitalization forces. Weinland Park doesn't have quite the same housing stock that Vickiville did, but the same thing could happen there. It's a process that is often derided, but I think it does more good than harm: improving neighborhoods nearby push up the property taxes on the properties rented out by absentee landlords, threatening their race-to-the-bottom business model by making other neighborhoods more competitive in the market for rents under $250/bed. That creates pressure to sell to individuals and investors who can pay the increasing taxes and are willing to pay the expense to live in a better neighborhood. Gradually, new businesses catering to the new residents filter in and the old businesses either catering to the old residents or taking advantage of the low costs of the previously downscale neighborhood filter out.
The process takes years, decades even, but that's fine: gradual change is generally easier to accept and easier on vulnerable populations than sudden change, anyway.
TaraK
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berdawn wrote >>
gramarye wrote >>
alove wrote >>
Rastapasta wrote >>
Natural cycle of gentrification --- no surprise here.
We are already seeing the art scene expand to other neighborhoods throughout the city which I think is exciting.Such a shame. Once bohemian, now yuppie central.
What up Franklinton??!I can only look forward to the day when the artists are all forced out of Weinland Park because a new Weinland Park condo sells for $280,000 and rents for $1600/mo., and Sweeney and Sherman are grumbling about how their property taxes are skyrocketing because Franklinton has been completely redeveloped and is starting to run short on land for new development or restoration.
From you lips to Gods' ears...but as I've posted in other threads, that scenario isn't very likely in WP. There is too much money being made by keeping that area as is. If someone had been turning a profit on the SN or in GV BEFORE it gentrified, s/h would have worked to make sure the status quo was undisturbed.
Well, significant changes are coming to the WP area in the next 5 years, for better or worse. Developers will begin working on vacant houses in the next year and attempting to up the neighborhood value in the next three. Long-term, the new homes that are coming (where the rubble heaps are) won't sell for $280k, but they will have various financing options. However, whether or not these options make it more feasible for people in the neighborhood to buy them, there will still be displacement.
myliftkk
Columbus, OH
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gramarye wrote >>
alove wrote >>
Rastapasta wrote >>
Natural cycle of gentrification --- no surprise here.
We are already seeing the art scene expand to other neighborhoods throughout the city which I think is exciting.Such a shame. Once bohemian, now yuppie central.
What up Franklinton??!I don't think it's a shame at all. One neighborhood redeveloped + more now redeveloping as the wave spreads in search of cheaper square footage > no neighborhoods redeveloped.
The gentrification of the Short North, Victorian Village, Italian Village, German Village, and a lot of the other inner neighborhoods are one major reason Columbus' finances are in better shape than many other Ohio cities. If we had enacted anti-gentrification measures to cap the growth at some point in order to preserve "character" or "affordability" or some other such nebulous concept, not only would the revitalization wave never had to spread, but the existing Short North would be less of a blessing for the city.
I can only look forward to the day when the artists are all forced out of Weinland Park because a new Weinland Park condo sells for $280,000 and rents for $1600/mo., and Sweeney and Sherman are grumbling about how their property taxes are skyrocketing because Franklinton has been completely redeveloped and is starting to run short on land for new development or restoration. As "problems" go, that's the kind of "problem" you have when you win the lottery and suddenly friends are asking you for money. It might lead to a few awkward moments, but you wouldn't be about to return the ticket.
I guess I'm curious why more people don't objectively see economic value in gentrification. For example, it isn't like there aren't any art galleries left in Chelsea. They may not be ones I can personally afford, but it certainly doesn't hurt the wider local art economy if say a higher end gallery moves into the priciest end of the SN and sets up shop, especially if they manage to cultivate local buyers and improve the art buying end of the economy specifically by making it less difficult to move higher priced work in town. It's also pretty naive for people to be on this continual SN deathwatch when there still places on High renting for under $600/mo. They may not be right at the corner of Buttles/High, but that's not a bad thing in any real economic respect for anybody.
When people get nostalgic for the "bohemian" character being lost I think they're forgetting that the SN of not that long ago was also the home of child prostitution, street corner dealers, and quite a number of other non-"bohemian" traits.
berdawn
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TaraK wrote >>
berdawn wrote >>
gramarye wrote >>
alove wrote >>
Rastapasta wrote >>
Natural cycle of gentrification --- no surprise here.
We are already seeing the art scene expand to other neighborhoods throughout the city which I think is exciting.Such a shame. Once bohemian, now yuppie central.
What up Franklinton??!I can only look forward to the day when the artists are all forced out of Weinland Park because a new Weinland Park condo sells for $280,000 and rents for $1600/mo., and Sweeney and Sherman are grumbling about how their property taxes are skyrocketing because Franklinton has been completely redeveloped and is starting to run short on land for new development or restoration.
From you lips to Gods' ears...but as I've posted in other threads, that scenario isn't very likely in WP. There is too much money being made by keeping that area as is. If someone had been turning a profit on the SN or in GV BEFORE it gentrified, s/h would have worked to make sure the status quo was undisturbed.
Well, significant changes are coming to the WP area in the next 5 years, for better or worse. Developers will begin working on vacant houses in the next year and attempting to up the neighborhood value in the next three. Long-term, the new homes that are coming (where the rubble heaps are) won't sell for $280k, but they will have various financing options. However, whether or not these options make it more feasible for people in the neighborhood to buy them, there will still be displacement.
The first round of housing to be build are going to be low-income rentals; they will not be eligible to be sold for 15 years.
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