lizless
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It's the unsubstantiated sexual harassment that's making me uncomfortable. And if the source is an ex-girlfriend (as many, many sources tell me, including some that admit to be involved with TOOP), it makes the motives behind the obsessive reporting that much less credible to me.
Again, I love public discourse and questions, it's the motives driving the conversation that are concerning me.
lizless
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cc said:
Adding to the rumor mill is very rarely the way to go.
Agree. But the sexual harassment is some serious allegations. I can't help but be uneasy about that type of reporting without anything substantiating it. Personally, as an ardent feminist, my pitchforks and torches would be lit if I believed it to be true.
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lizless said:
Agree. But the sexual harassment is some serious allegations. I can't help but be uneasy about that type of reporting without anything substantiating it. Personally, as an ardent feminist, my pitchforks and torches would be lit if I believed it to be true.
I suspect you are uneasy because the truth is worthy of making a strong woman uneasy.
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HopperFan
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"We've been discussing Wonderland for two years running right here on CU."
Sure - but since TOOP focuses on just Wonderland, it's easier to find info there. I'm sure there was some discussion here of their new non-profit status etc..., but at least for me, it gets buried, since I'm not on here every day.
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HopperFan said:
"We've been discussing Wonderland for two years running right here on CU."Sure - but since TOOP focuses on just Wonderland, it's easier to find info there. I'm sure there was some discussion here of their new non-profit status etc..., but at least for me, it gets buried, since I'm not on here every day.
depends how you like your 'info', i guess. I prefer well done.
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lizless said:
I've spoken to some folks who claim to be affiliated with TOOP in the past day or two. They all claim that TOOP is actually the work of Adam's ex-girlfriend. This rumor seems to be widely circulated among a lot of folks in the art community. I'm hoping that the author of TOOP comes forward so that parties who might not be involved aren't continuing to be blamed for the public libel. I like the idea of public, open discourse...but not if folks simply have a personal ax to grind.
As a visible member of the business community I am surprised you would also be throwing around accusations and rumors without concrete facts, based mostly on hearsay. All you are doing is stooping to the level of TOOP, and doing pretty much exactly what they are doing. It's disappointing and childish, frankly.
lizless
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Campbell said:
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rightofleft said:
As a visible member of the business community I am surprised you would also be throwing around accusations and rumors without concrete facts, based mostly on hearsay. All you are doing is stooping to the level of TOOP, and doing pretty much exactly what they are doing. It's disappointing and childish, frankly.
Public libel is much more criminal than childish, it is appalling, yes.
The only way to prove/disprove slander is with truth. So I'd like to hear it.
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lizless said:
Public libel is much more criminal than childish, it is appalling, yes.The only way to prove/disprove slander is with truth. So I'd like to hear it.
The TOOP site is certainly dedicated to its pursuit of the 'truth' about Wonderland that's for sure, but it appears that at least there is some research being done by the author, in terms of looking thru public records, etc. I have never seen that much effort go into anything written on this messageboard before. There are people on that site who are openly critical of you too Mrs. Lessner, so your outward dismissal of that website makes it all the more apparent that you are suffering from as much hurt feelings and an ego blow, as you are editorial improprieties.
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