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So with the development of the casino anyone with ideas that could improve the west side can post here!
To start off I have a picture of what West Broad Street could look like with the construction of new restaurants and other things.
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somebuckeye said:
Is that place big enough for a bowling alley? I haven't been there since I was a kid. There's a bowling alley at momo in University Village, but they're not full sized lanes. lame. I have also bowled downtown at two "secret" bowling alleys. There's one in the basement of the Athletic Club, and there was one at the Salesian Center (closed). They were pretty warped and I think small as well, but it was cool to bowl downtown!I would love a close bowling option that didn't suck to fill the void from when Fiesta closed. I usually go to stardust in Grove City, but that's pretty far. Also, I'm not good at bowling.
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kcrissinger
Brookshire
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Western Lanes is just south of the casino site. It sits at the northeast corner of Sullivant and Georgesville roads. It is still a pretty nice bowling alley. It has been there since at least the early 70s.
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kcrissinger
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Oh, and I have a suggestion to improve the casino area. Tear down all Section 8 housing within two miles of the casino site. That would work wonders for the area.
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jpizzow
580 N. Park St.
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Open up Westland Mall (Eastonize it), add a street grid, shrink Broad Street and move development closer to Broad. In a nutshell, create a livable, walkable, sustainable neigbhborhood in place of a relic. Do the same thing across the street as well. A couple of new stand alone restaurants to support casino traffic isn't going to cut it.
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kcrissinger
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jpizzow said:
Open up Westland Mall (Eastonize it), add a street grid, shrink Broad Street and move development closer to Broad. In a nutshell, create a livable, walkable, sustainable neigbhborhood in place of a relic. Do the same thing across the street as well. A couple of new stand alone restaurants to support casino traffic isn't going to cut it.I was visiting the BMV in the mall last month and they told me that they're moving because Westland is going to be razed beginning in October. I'm not sure exactly what the plans are though.
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johnwirtz
Evanston, IL
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jpizzow said:
In a nutshell, create a livable, walkable, sustainable neigbhborhood in place of a relic. Do the same thing across the street as well.Heresy. Such places would never work in Columbus. It's obvious that more people would go to the west side if they would just build some parking garages.
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cbustransit
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i saw a picture of the weston plan from the tradeshow. It's pretty far set back. Everything except the sears is destroyed and built into an easton-like development. But its set back from both broad and georgesville by some fountains, retention ponds, and parking. and the casino is too. so there isn't a whole lot of connectivity. and odot wants to widen the roads around the casino also. street trees :) but real wide. they are all good developments. but they are all so far apart. At least the county is going after better development standsards...and the city is too
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kcrissinger said:
Oh, and I have a suggestion to improve the casino area. Tear down all Section 8 housing within two miles of the casino site. That would work wonders for the area.Kcriss, I totally agree with you on the tear down of all the buildings that WE PAY FOR, but they won't do that because the welfares will be the first ones in the casino spending their monthy checks.
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johnwirtz
Evanston, IL
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This is a bit cryptic without a drawing, but it looks like Broad has about 150 feet of ROW near Westland and only enough traffic to justify two through lanes in each direction. Why not convert it into a grand boulevard? I would suggest a cross-section like this:
S-P-L-M-T-T-CM-T-T-M-L-P-S
13.5-8-14-12-11-11-11-11-11-12-14-8-13.5where:
S = Sidewalk with trees, landscaping, light poles, street furniture, etc...
P = On-street parking
L = Local travel lane with shared bike lane markings
M = Median with trees and grass. Bus stops would also be on this strip.
T = Through lane
CM = Center landscaped median or left turn lanes where necessaryMajor intersections may vary.
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lifeontwowheels
Highland West
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CalebR said:
So with the development of the casino anyone with ideas that could improve the west side can post here!------------------------------------------------------------------
To start off I have a picture of what West Broad Street could look like with the construction of new restaurants and other things.I'd encourage you to get involved with the various neighborhood groups out here and get a feel for the area.
As much as I would love to see a revitalized Westland Mall, can't say I am looking forward to a continuation of Polaris/Easton like sprawl if that's what ultimately occurs. Thankfully my strip of W. Broad is a little more sane. Now if we can just get some businesses out here beyond the tat shops and Stop n' Robs.
I think I mentioned this in your other thread Walker closed: If the mall stays in tact I would love to see the food court (heck even some of the storefronts or kiosk space) utilized as a business incubator. ECDI, OSU Fisher, CSCC, Franklin...some business group or partnership that could lease a chunk of space and offer it to entrepreneurs looking to get a start. The reality is that any major investor rehabbing the property is going to want the consistence provided by a national franchise vs. the potential turnover created by local start-ups. But I can dream right?
John,
Do you know of anywhere that's done something similar? Sounds like a neat concept that could work. The sprawl and monstrosity of W. Broad that way is downright depressing.Posted 9 months ago # -
KingLincolnUrbanEnthusiast
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cotton candy and honey roasted nut kiosks
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johnwirtz
Evanston, IL
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lifeontwowheels said:
I'd encourage you to get involved with the various neighborhood groups out here and get a feel for the area.As much as I would love to see a revitalized Westland Mall, can't say I am looking forward to a continuation of Polaris/Easton like sprawl if that's what ultimately occurs. Thankfully my strip of W. Broad is a little more sane. Now if we can just get some businesses out here beyond the tat shops and Stop n' Robs.
I think I mentioned this in your other thread Walker closed: If the mall stays in tact I would love to see the food court (heck even some of the storefronts or kiosk space) utilized as a business incubator. ECDI, OSU Fisher, CSCC, Franklin...some business group or partnership that could lease a chunk of space and offer it to entrepreneurs looking to get a start. The reality is that any major investor rehabbing the property is going to want the consistence provided by a national franchise vs. the potential turnover created by local start-ups. But I can dream right?
John,
Do you know of anywhere that's done something similar? Sounds like a neat concept that could work. The sprawl and monstrosity of W. Broad that way is downright depressing.I think I can find multiple examples of boulevards that are configured like this, but probably not many that were converted from horrible multi-lane arterials in sprawl. Chicago has a system of boulevards with a similar, though slightly wider, cross-sections:
Humboldt Blvd
Logan BlvdOne of the best ways to make an obnoxiously wide street into a pedestrian friendly place is by making it a boulevard. It allows pedestrians to be buffered from the through traffic by trees, parking, a local traffic lane, and more trees. They can cross Broad in much shorter distances instad of seven lanes at one time. See if the library has a copy of Great Streets by Alan Jaccobs.
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Twixlen
Westgate, Columbus
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Walker said:
I'd be surprised if there's plans for parallel on-street parking on that stretch of West Broad. There's really no need for it if all businesses are going to continue to be set back behind a big parking lot in front.I'm looking for the street plans & hopefully will find them. They were presented at one of the casino meetings.
Essentially - There will be a curving walkway/sidewalk built along the casino side of W Broad from 270 to Wilson, with some dedicated greenspace/trees. There are plans to change the whole set up of the lanes (already in stage one) where 270 meets W Broad. (Really, there needs to be some serious construction there, as the off ramps from 270 to W Broad are far too short.) The sidewalk is meant to be both a walking & bike lane, I do believe.
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Twixlen
Westgate, Columbus
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Also - that whole area has been rezoned. Basically changing the whole configuration of how the parking lots meet the buildings - buildings to the street, parking in the back is how it's to be changed. Of course, that won't take place until a building is razed or more than a certain percentage of it is to be structurally altered.
To second what LifeonTwoWheels said - the best way to affect change (and know what's going on) is to get involved in the process. The city & casino people have been holding meetings, looking for feedback from residents, and presenting what plans they come up with. Those meetings get announced thru the Weston group that Haydocy set up, thru the Greater Hilltop Area Commission, Highland West Neighbor's Association, and Westgate Neighbors Association, at the very least.
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Walker
The KLD / Downtown
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Twixlen said:
Also - that whole area has been rezoned. Basically changing the whole configuration of how the parking lots meet the buildings - buildings to the street, parking in the back is how it's to be changed. Of course, that won't take place until a building is razed or more than a certain percentage of it is to be structurally altered.Sounds good, but still sounds like on-street parking would be a long way off.
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johnwirtz
Evanston, IL
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johnwirtz said:
This is a bit cryptic without a drawing, but it looks like Broad has about 150 feet of ROW near Westland and only enough traffic to justify two through lanes in each direction. Why not convert it into a grand boulevard? I would suggest a cross-section like this:S-P-L-M-T-T-CM-T-T-M-L-P-S
13.5-8-14-12-11-11-11-11-11-12-14-8-13.5where:
S = Sidewalk with trees, landscaping, light poles, street furniture, etc...
P = On-street parking
L = Local travel lane with shared bike lane markings
M = Median with trees and grass. Bus stops would also be on this strip.
T = Through lane
CM = Center landscaped median or left turn lanes where necessaryMajor intersections may vary.
This should be more clear:
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