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mrpoppinzs
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What’s next here?
December 9, 2012
The southern end of Weinland Park, or more appropriately the borderlands area between Italian Village and Weinland Park is undergoing some change lately and much more is probably due. Between High and Summit, Out of the Closet is going to build their thrift store at Fifth Avenue and High Street. The G&L Carryout on Fifth and Indianola is on the verge of losing their liquor license.
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mrpoppinzs
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The section of Hamlet St that runs from 5th Ave to the actual park is probably the nicest block in all of Weinland Park. The section of Summit that runs between 5th Ave and the school is also on a major upswing. I am all for mixed low income housing, but I think making that section of 5th 'market rate' apartments would do a lot to speed the further revitalization of the corridor.
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AMEEKER said:
Would someone please take that old bar for lease and make it a coffee shop / coworking space? It's three floors - there's plenty of room for it.+1 The ground floor is in great shape and the upstairs is gutted and ready for renovations from what I have heard. The only issue may be a lack of dedicated parking.
The location is pretty central to both OSU and downtown.
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rory
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AMEEKER said:
Would someone please take that old bar for lease and make it a coffee shop / coworking space? It's three floors - there's plenty of room for it.That would be great. I've always thought that space might be more successful serving a more local audience rather than being a destination.
And the vacant building at North Fourth and 7th can be a sports bar and the neighborhood will have it going on.
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labi
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And in other non-dry news at the other end of WP, Tiffany and Charlie have sold Oldfield's (at Chittenden and N 4th). The new owner plans to turn all ten taps over to in-state beers; kitchen to be reopened in January.
Open for discussion: Is Weinland Park Ready for Five-Dollar Pints? :)
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jpizzow
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^^ That entire block needs a redux.
As for Summit and 5th, I would love to see Bristol get a new tenant and the other three corners redeveloped to similar density. It would make for a nice gateway into Italian Village. The same could be done for 4th and 5th as a new gateway into Weinland Park. I suspect that with the new influx of residents from the Waggenbrenner devevopment, some new retail will pop up in the viscinity. In fact, Waggenbrenner had plans for retail on the NE corner, if I'm not mistaken.
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mrpoppinzs
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Agree on the whole block needing a redux. Last time I was at Oldfield's it was pretty dead, just a couple of old guys at the bar. If they can keep it from turning into another campus student bar then I am all for it.
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The section of Hamlet St that runs from 5th Ave to the actual park is probably the nicest block in all of Weinland Park. The section of Summit that runs between 5th Ave and the school is also on a major upswing. I am all for mixed low income housing, but I think making that section of 5th 'market rate' apartments would do a lot to speed the further revitalization of the corridor.
I'm all for mixed income housing too, so in WP that means more market rate. WP already has enough low-income and subsidized housing. I'm all for making The Hamlet market rate and not extend its life as low income housing. It's a very cool block of townhouses all with their own off-street parking spaced along the alley behind them. Converting it to market rate would take it to its best use.
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The section of Hamlet St that runs from 5th Ave to the actual park is probably the nicest block in all of Weinland Park. The section of Summit that runs between 5th Ave and the school is also on a major upswing. I am all for mixed low income housing, but I think making that section of 5th 'market rate' apartments would do a lot to speed the further revitalization of the corridor.
I'm all for mixed income housing too, so in WP that means more market rate. WP already has enough low-income and subsidized housing. I'm all for making The Hamlet market rate and not extend its life as low income housing. It's a very cool block of townhouses all with their own off-street parking spaces along the alley behind them. Converting it to market rate would take it to its best use. It would hasten the improved development of the Summit/5th Ave. gateway as others advocate. It would also likely contribute more improvements eastward on 5th Ave to N.4th St.
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bucki12
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+1 WP needs more market rate housing. The good news is that the revitalization of Italian Village seems to be moving northward. I have been noticing a trend as I have seen more young people with apparent means move into the southern area around 5th. Hopefully the G&L and the S&K will lose their liquor licenses, changing ownership of nuisance stores will help a lot.
I wouldn't mind a bar going into the former Bristol space. Anything that can divert people from High St will probably help the area.
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I don't think it will take much for the momentum of IV to cross 5th Ave. I think the real question is how far north it will go. I assume most people will see 7th Ave as a new boundary. There are a lot of factors at work in WP and despite its small size I think the different sections will end up fairly different.
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rory
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cbus11 said:
I don't think it will take much for the momentum of IV to cross 5th Ave. I think the real question is how far north it will go. I assume most people will see 7th Ave as a new boundary. There are a lot of factors at work in WP and despite its small size I think the different sections will end up fairly different.
11th Avenue is the new 7th Avenue. Wagenbrenner is building new houses on Hamlet and Eighth and restoring the row houses on 11th Avenue so that should pull things farther north.
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11th Avenue is the new 7th Avenue. Wagenbrenner is building new houses on Hamlet and Eighth and restoring the row houses on 11th Avenue so that should pull things farther north.
What is concerning is all of the party decks starting at 7th and Indianola/Summit. I agree that the N4E8 development will be nice and hopefully bring in some stable long term homeowners. I do wonder who will rent the row houses on 11th and what they will rent for.
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rory
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cbus11 said:
What is concerning is all of the party decks starting at 7th and Indianola/Summit.It does get pretty student laden in the northwest corner by the South Campus Gateway. But on the other hand it's almost impossible to buy a house in that portion because of the rental income they produce. Consequently all the rehabs and new builds in WP are well away from that quarter. The sophomore rule ought to thin out the student population too. And the civic association has been talking with every board and commission to halt the building of new party decks and other student infrastructure as well as talking to landlords about the broadening their target demographic from students to everyone else. It seems to be working too.
The row houses on 11th will go from $800-1000 I think for one and two bedrooms if I remember correctly. Although they still have to rehabbed and construction costs can always change. I believe the target audience is for young professionals etc. It's thought to be out of student range after the sophomore rule. And it's going to be impossible to cram in 12 of your buddies in a one-two bedroom. And it will be the gateway for the market rate Coated Fabrics site
FYI: We've starting calling them verandas instead of party decks. Loaded term and all. ;)
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mrpoppinzs
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^That is good to hear about the row houses on 11th. I think they would be great for grad students though, but I am not sure what the fiscal means of a grad student is these days.
The new Jeffrey project will probably spur more development in the southern section of WP. I really would love a street car on Summit.
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jimbach
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goldenidea said:
The section of Hamlet St that runs from 5th Ave to the actual park is probably the nicest block in all of Weinland Park. The section of Summit that runs between 5th Ave and the school is also on a major upswing. I am all for mixed low income housing, but I think making that section of 5th 'market rate' apartments would do a lot to speed the further revitalization of the corridor.
I'm all for mixed income housing too, so in WP that means more market rate. WP already has enough low-income and subsidized housing. I'm all for making The Hamlet market rate and not extend its life as low income housing. It's a very cool block of townhouses all with their own off-street parking spaces along the alley behind them. Converting it to market rate would take it to its best use. It would hasten the improved development of the Summit/5th Ave. gateway as others advocate. It would also likely contribute more improvements eastward on 5th Ave to N.4th St.
Thank you for noticing that, for WP, "mixed income" means more middle-class and more market rate. The reasoning behind that seems lost on a lot of people, it seems.
I am completely in favor of mixed income neighborhoods and low-income housing. However, I oppose the concentration of poverty into a select few neighborhoods. I suppose it's convenient enough if you don't live, work, or commute in those neighborhoods, but for the rest of us it just spells tragedy.
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