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Want Talent? Drink at Lunch! - Urbanophile
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jungaroo
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I think the idea of a drink at lunch on a workday depends on the work culture, not the other way around. If you have an organization where everyone is committed and passionate about its mission, a drink or two would be fine. On the other hand, if it's a 9-5 organization where everyone's counting minutes, partaking in Cyber Monday and other shenanigans, then it would be a disaster.
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JonMyers
Ao Nang, Krabi, Thailand
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@Jung - I agree. It also doesn't hurt to take a look at the dominant work cultures around Columbus. They're conservative. We have government, banking, insurance and retail. Retail has the potential to be an exception and go for the drink at lunch thing, but the work is usually done on giant retail campuses and based on my conversations people rarely leave these facilities.
The peripheral businesses like creative firms whose bread and butter is reliant upon banking, insurance and government usually have to suck it up and play the game to a certain extent. Thus, I don't see a lot of room for progressive initiatives like a drink at lunch.
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lifeontwowheels
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JonMyers wrote >>
@Jung - I agree. It also doesn't hurt to take a look at the dominant work cultures around Columbus. They're conservative. We have government, banking, insurance and retail. Retail has the potential to be an exception and go for the drink at lunch thing, but the work is usually done on giant retail campuses and based on my conversations people rarely leave these facilities.
The peripheral businesses like creative firms whose bread and butter is reliant upon banking, insurance and government usually have to suck it up and play the game to a certain extent. Thus, I don't see a lot of room for progressive initiatives like a drink at lunch.When I was at the Statehouse, I remember reading a piece about a state legislature whose Speaker of the House (at the time) would do pizza and beer for the members outside his office once a week.
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Rastapasta
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Many people used to drink heavily in finance and banking, including in house corporate positions throughout the 70's and 80's. From what I know, this is limited to only special folks (pedigreed) now..
I think lawyers are the only professionals I know who drink regularly at lunch these days.
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sugarplumclarey
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What does "attracting talent" mean to companies? What sort of talent? Is it referring to the young, hip, creative class?
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Rastapasta
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sugarplumclarey wrote >>
What does "attracting talent" mean to companies? What sort of talent? Is it referring to the young, hip, creative class?It would depend on the city and industry within that city.
"Young talent" means something different in each industry-- for lawyers,bankers,accountants it means willing to work 70+ hours a week to make the partners $. For those in creative industries, young talent is a motivated person with fresh ideas.
I might be wrong, but I don't think there are many companies here in Columbus clamoring for young, hip and creative talent. These jobs are created by entrepreneurs. I really think we need to continue to attract and encourage entrepreneurs (whom already have their own ability to decide if they'd like to drink at lunch or not).
I don't think this article really applies to Columbus at the angle I see it at. Lunch drinking could be a tactic for cities that are competing against New York firm's to draw top quality talent to big law, accounting, etc. Less prestigious firms already try luring talent by promising less hours, a better work/life balance; lunch drinking would be a great addition.
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JonMyers
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Rastapasta wrote >>
Many people used to drink heavily in finance and banking, including in house corporate positions throughout the 70's and 80's. From what I know, this is limited to only special folks (pedigreed) now..
I think lawyers are the only professionals I know who drink regularly at lunch these days.I remember when I took a tour of the Modern Finance building many of the executive offices had hidden mini-bars in the walls that would sort of swing out all bat cave style. The walls were that awesome St. James Tavern style wood paneling. It was awesome.
I remember after the tour thinking how lame and dull we've become on issues like drinking.
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ZHC
101 East Main Street, Downtown
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JonMyers wrote >>
I remember when I took a tour of the Modern Finance building many of the executive offices had hidden mini-bars in the walls that would sort of swing out all bat cave style. The walls were that awesome St. James Tavern style wood paneling. It was awesome.
.I liked the mini-fridge on the second floor that had a pink interior . Very 50's kind of thing.
I did think the air raid sirens on the roof were even cooler though.
back on topic- I have a hard time seeing this become wide spread in the litigious age and town we live in. But even if it did I don't know if that would give Columbus much of a competitive advantage, as this would be something that would be very easily copied...
To be honest it seems to vary firm by firm anyway than city by city. I know a few places that are cool with it around town and I know others that aren't.
So I agree with Jon and Jungaroo
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Walker
The KLD / Downtown
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ZHC wrote >>
I don't know if that would give Columbus much of a competitive advantage, as this would be something that would be very easily copied...I dunno... I think we're already a step ahead of most cities...
- Forbes Ranks Columbus as Third Drunkest City (2006)
- Ohio Liquor Sales Hit Record High in 2009
;)
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DCist
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agtw31 wrote >>
here in Columbus,a drink at lunch is like a Lay's potato chip.
you can't have just one.I find it hilarious that ONE beer a lunch is EVIL in the business world. I LIKE the taste of wine/beer/martini and yes, I am a young person. I think its been given a bad name by people who get sloppy drunk. I dont know why everyone's talking about it like its a horrible, evil, immoral thing.
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Walker
The KLD / Downtown
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Anyone remember this commercial from a few years back?
http://adland.tv/commercials/sam-adams-samuel-adams-business-lunch-short-2003-015-usa
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arenn
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While we're on a topic from my blog, I thought I would share my latest piece too. I did an op-ed for the Oregonian and wrapped it with a comparison of Indianapolis and Portland. I didn't pull the numbers, but I have a feeling that if you dropped Columbus in there instead of Indy, you'd get the same trend. The two cities are nearly identical in so many ways. In short, Columbus has got nothing to be ashamed of.
http://www.urbanophile.com/2010/01/17/portland-and-the-limits-of-urban-planning-policy/
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sugarplumclarey
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I moved here when I was 24, and for the life of me I couldn't find a job in the creative sector; the only options seemed to be retail/fashion, which isn't my box of cookies. Having lived here a while, I'm now aware that there are a lot of options for creative-type job seekers. But they weren't readily visible to me as a new transplant. The only jobs with growth options seemed to be with Battelle, Nationwide, etc. I couldn't find a company that seemed "cool" enough to work for (though I did find great nonprofit work.)
Would've loved to have a central location where I could go to learn about Columbus' creative scenes (a la CU, but for job seekers and transplants), living options, etc. You can only turn up so many stones on Craigslist, and I didn't know a ton of people to help me connect before I moved here either.
Rastapasta, I totally agree with what you said
(there are many companies here in Columbus clamoring for young, hip and creative talent.)
Existing creative types and leaders of the young/hip/urban sector are doing some amazing stuff. The problem is that outsiders don't know about it, and not having lived here yet, they may not have as much of an incentive to participate in the creatively entrepreneurial initiatives going on, since it can be a risk to do so. Even if it were protocol to drink scotch at breakfast here, nobody would know about it until they moved here, you get my drift? Either way, forcing that sort of cultural phenomenon thing never works too well in my experience.
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agtw31
columbus
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arenn wrote >>
While we're on a topic from my blog, I thought I would share my latest piece too. I did an op-ed for the Oregonian and wrapped it with a comparison of Indianapolis and Portland. I didn't pull the numbers, but I have a feeling that if you dropped Columbus in there instead of Indy, you'd get the same trend. The two cities are nearly identical in so many ways. In short, Columbus has got nothing to be ashamed of.
http://www.urbanophile.com/2010/01/17/portland-and-the-limits-of-urban-planning-policy/make this another topic,it is interesting
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jamesbickford
N/E Cbus
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When I worked in real estate it wasn't uncommon to witness a "three martini lunch"
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