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Columbus is getting to the point where better public transportation could lead to more development without a 1-1 ratio (or sometimes 2-1) of parking to units.
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The Wood Companies Short North Apartment Building - News & Updates
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columbusmike
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Posted 6 months ago # -
Saint Murrays
Harrison West
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Rode by here the other day, man do I love the look of the building. Really fits in with the neighborhood and enhances the urban feel.
Posted 6 months ago # -
heresthecasey
Funkytown
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Something needs to happen with the massive White Castle parking lot next door. Happy to have them in the neighborhood, but what a terrible site plan for that prime lot.
Posted 6 months ago # -
columbusmike
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heresthecasey said:
Something needs to happen with the massive White Castle parking lot next door. Happy to have them in the neighborhood, but what a terrible site plan for that prime lot.I'm surprised White Castle hasn't tried a more "urban" restaurant concept here. Sell the lot to a developer and put in a storefront White Castle. Might be too classy for them....
Posted 5 months ago # -
goldenidea
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goldenidea said:
Isn't SNBA working on an initative to cobble together enough parcels to build a garage? That can't happen soon enough.
There's two garages in development, one at The Joseph and one at the Hubbard, each with some private and some public parking.
I'm aware of these additions but wonder if that's enough. Also, timing is important. I assume the Wood's building will soon be ready to lease. That's going to bring, what perhaps 60 more cars into that area of High Street every night? With Northstar and all the other existing activity, where will those cars go? The Joseph and Hubbard garages are years away opening.
Posted 5 months ago # -
Pablo
Crestview Addition
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goldenidea
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I'm surprised White Castle hasn't tried a more "urban" restaurant concept here. Sell the lot to a developer and put in a storefront White Castle. Might be too classy for them....
Given that WC's HQ is only blocks away, they must be well aware of the potential of that site. Similar to Fireproof, it's probably only a matter of time before they redevelop it (again). Perhaps they lack experience creating a more urban development so there a lag in the conversion. It is curious how that WC, despite now being in an much for affluent market, hasn't changed its customer base.
BTW, the Fireproof development seems behind schedule. Once that gets underway, that parking also disappears. That's will bring another 15 or so cars per night on to the streets.
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goldenidea
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Actually, I believe they both open next year.
I hope you're right. I haven't timed most of these developments, but they seem to take longer than a year.
Posted 5 months ago # -
Walker
The KLD / Downtown / Gay Street
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goldenidea said:
I'm aware of these additions but wonder if that's enough. Also, timing is important. I assume the Wood's building will soon be ready to lease. That's going to bring, what perhaps 60 more cars into that area of High Street every night? With Northstar and all the other existing activity, where will those cars go? The Joseph and Hubbard garages are years away opening.Where are you getting the number 60? The retail is already there, and the build out includes 24 new apartment units and 24 new parking spots:
http://www.columbusunderground.com/wood-companies-new-short-north-apartments-going-skyward
Columbus needs more parking challenges if we ever want to see a real need for building out better transit systems. It's hard to justify if there's wide roads and ample parking everywhere.
Posted 5 months ago # -
peter
Downtown
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Columbus needs more parking challenges if we ever want to see a real need for building out better transit systems. It's hard to justify if there's wide roads and ample parking everywhere.
Correct. Parking in the Short North is laughably easy, even during peak times. Go 1-3 blocks east or west from High and there is TONS of parking everywhere. I do not understand how people complain about parking in the Short North.
Posted 5 months ago # -
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goldenidea
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I do not understand how people complain about parking in the Short North.
Because a lot of mid-western people are not used to and don't like to walk a block or more once, let alone on a regular basis. Also, those not familiar with the SN may not feel safe walking that far. And when the weather is bad, like when it's raining, many are not prepared to walk that far.
There are times when the area around 2nd and High, and south from there, are very hard to find parking, especially west of High. I haven't done a detailed count, but my thought is most of the new developments will put more cars on the street. The new development is good, but I'd like to see more (net) parking created within a block of or right on High St. I also think adding just 20-40 more cars to regular on-street parking may have a bigger impact on High St accessibility than one might think. Time will tell.
Posted 5 months ago # -
peanutnozone
Baltimore MD
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Because a lot of mid-western people are not used to and don't like to walk a block or more once, let alone on a regular basis. Also, those not familiar with the SN may not feel safe walking that far. And when the weather is bad, like when it's raining, many are not prepared to walk that far.
Cultural, environmental and demographic shifts may necessitate a mindset change. And safe? C'mon. Pfft. I'm not saying what you say is untrue because I certainly know quite a few people with said mindset. It's been my experience that once you introduce someone to a different point of view they come to understand that walking a few blocks can be an enjoyable thing, it's not dangerous like you would think (or the news would have you believe) and cities are awesome places and not cesspools of whatever evil that can be thought up.
Back on topic, that building is so great. It's a new build but certainly pays homage to the past and fits in nicely with its surroundings. Wouldn't mind have a second home there myself.
Posted 5 months ago # -
Walker
The KLD / Downtown / Gay Street
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goldenidea said:
Because a lot of mid-western people are not used to and don't like to walk a block or more once, let alone on a regular basis.So we need to go our of our way to provide ample parking just because some people are used to it and lazy and resistant to change?
No thanks.
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goldenidea
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It not just about laziness or reluctance to change, rather it can be a matter of practicality and convience. For example, if you live in a building where you frequently have to look for parking and have to walk a block or two or more to get home, that adds up to a lot of time. Time is valuable, so if parking was closer and availablity was certain, buildings that are able to offer that are more valuable.
Urban land in Columbus and in most midwest cities isn't valuable enough to allow for really major high-rise development. There isn't enough demand. So we can afford to add more parking to make urban living more convenient and attractive to those who chose it or are considering it. The option to convert this parking to more living and business space is there if demand can justify it.
Posted 5 months ago # -
ehill27
Short North
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@goldenidea - As Walker mentioned earlier, this project has it's own indoor/first-level parking for tenants.
PS- Parking garages for public use are also being built at Hubbard & High (construction has started) and at the new Pizzuti hotel and office complex.
Posted 5 months ago # -
jbcmh81
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goldenidea said:
It not just about laziness or reluctance to change, rather it can be a matter of practicality and convience. For example, if you live in a building where you frequently have to look for parking and have to walk a block or two or more to get home, that adds up to a lot of time. Time is valuable, so if parking was closer and availablity was certain, buildings that are able to offer that are more valuable.Urban land in Columbus and in most midwest cities isn't valuable enough to allow for really major high-rise development. There isn't enough demand. So we can afford to add more parking to make urban living more convenient and attractive to those who chose it or are considering it. The option to convert this parking to more living and business space is there if demand can justify it.
Wouldn't those considerations be something people moving to urban settings have already thought about? If parking is a prime concern, you move to the suburbs or to a residential development where you expect to be driving. Moving to the Short North or neighborhoods like it, one should be prepared for at least some lack of parking in close proximity to their place of residence. And no doubt, lack of having to drive everywhere in the first place is one of the attractions to urban neighborhoods.
Posted 5 months ago # -
Walker
The KLD / Downtown / Gay Street
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I got a quick tour of some of the unfinished (but nearly complete!) units at the Wood Cos building today. The finishes seem to be all of condo-quality, so they're going very high end with these apartment units. Layouts of both 1 & 2 bedrooms are spacious, private balconies on the south-west side of the building are great, and the second-story rooftop terrace has a great view of Downtown.
I snapped a few quick iPhone photos of the view from overhanging corner unit on the fourth floor, which has a great panoramic view looking north and northwest toward OSU, and south down High to Downtown.
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