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rus said:
It should be "common sense" than an officer who can handle a crowd of 10 people can not handle a crowd of 100 people.
Do riots really break out that often?
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High Speed Rail Development in the US
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GCrites80s
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johnwirtz
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columbusmike said:
I'm just curious what the frequency/travel times would be with a heavy/freight rail service....seems like it would take a while to get up to speed and slow down.Probably too speculative to say without knowing the route, station locations, method of propulsion, and budget, but why not.
Good commuter rail service often runs hourly local service with additional trains (local and express) during rush hours. Because transit demand in Columbus is light, I would not assume good service. Probably something minimal like the Nashville service. They have three AM and PM trips in each direction.
My train in Chicago runs about 12 miles in 25 minutes (28.8 MPH), and the systemwide average is 30.9 MPH. Let's say the average is about 30 MPH. A trip from Delaware at that speed would take about 45 minutes. A trip from the Crosswoods would be a little over 20 minutes.
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GCrites80s said:
Do riots really break out that often?The contention was that as population density increases, the cost of services ( including fire and law enforcement ) decline.
I've seen figures citing police presence as x officers per y population ( i.e. density is ignored ), but I've never seen data which shows density causes a need for less police officers. So I asked for a citation.
The article HeySquare cited was interesting, but it says NYC hired more officers and used hotspot mapping to reduce crime rates. Fair enough, but that says nothing about increased population density leading to reduced law enforcement costs.
So, how about you? Have something to prove that putting more people together in a smaller space leads to less crime and, therefore, less of a need for police?
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Andrew Hall
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So, how about you? Have something to prove that putting more people together in a smaller space leads to less crime and, therefore, less of a need for police?
My understanding was that cost differences in density came from fire and EMS more than police. There have been problems with the water pressure not being enough and/or not enough hydrants thus requiring more expensive tanker trucks. With EMS, fuel costs and the time needed to respond were not being compensated proportionately. Some locales assess impact fee for new developments to cover capital costs like the tankers.
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Andrew Hall said:
My understanding was that cost differences in density came from fire and EMS more than police. There have been problems with the water pressure not being enough and/or not enough hydrants thus requiring more expensive tanker trucks. With EMS, fuel costs and the time needed to respond were not being compensated proportionately. Some locales assess impact fee for new developments to cover capital costs like the tankers.A.
Boston has a smaller population than Columbus, but is much more dense.
Boston's Fire Department is the same size as Columbus', and doesn't provide advanced EMS care like CFD does.
Personnel costs for police/fire are vastly higher than equipment costs.
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GCrites80s
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The cost-of-living index in various cities would also skew numbers if an adjustment is not figured into the analysis.
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President’s Transit Budget Full of Ambition, Short on Congressional Support
Yonah Freemark | Feb 15th, 2012
The White House has introduced a budget—and a reauthorization proposal—that would significantly increase investment in transportation infrastructure over the next six years. Though the legislation as currently designed will not be passed into law because of reluctance from Congress, the Obama administration’s continued efforts to expand funding for sustainable mobility options are to be praised.
Though expenditures on highways would increase significantly as well, it would be in public transportation modes that the real expansion would be made. Significant spending on intercity rail—almost $50 billion over six years—as well as new transit capital projects ($21 billion) and state of good repair (SOGR, at $32 billion) would be the most important contributions of the program.
READ MORE: http://americancity.org/buzz/entry/3345/
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Speeding to Kalamazoo aboard Amtrak’s high-speed train
MARK BROWN
February 15, 2012 10:22PMWhen the Pioneer Zephyr — better known as the Silver Streak — made its historic run from Denver to Chicago in 1934, the diesel-powered passenger train now on display at the Museum of Science and Industry topped out at 112.5 miles per hour, which at the time was only slightly off the world land speed record. What then are we to make of Wednesday’s official Amtrak kickoff for its first “high speed rail” corridor outside the Northeast — on which trains traveling between Chicago and Kalamazoo, Mich., will now reach top speeds of 110 miles per hour?
There was definitely a Back to the Future feel aboard the special Amtrak train that departed Union Station at 7 a.m. Wednesday carrying news media and dignitaries on a mission to commemorate the return to speeds commonly achieved by America’s rail industry more than a half-century ago. I was among those on board, curious to see if 110 mph is noticeably faster. It is, although not quite so much that you would consider it a revelation.
Still, if more of America’s railways were able to accommodate such speeds, I can promise you more of us would be riding the train, even if there is no comparison to the faster bullet trains of other nations.
READ MORE: http://www.suntimes.com/news/brown/10669050-452/speeding-to-kalamazoo-aboard-amtraks-high-speed-train.htmlPosted 1 year ago # -
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Caltrain plan would fast-track electric rail
Michael Cabanatuan
Monday, February 13, 2012
The overhaul of California's high-speed rail project could bring the Bay Area $1 billion to electrify Caltrain and lay the path for bullet train service between San Francisco and San Jose sooner than anticipated.
The Chronicle has learned that officials with Bay Area transportation agencies are in negotiations with each other, and with the California High-Speed Rail Authority, to craft an agreement that would fund an advanced train-control system, electrify the rails on the Peninsula and eliminate some of the rail crossings - perhaps as soon as 2016, five to 10 years earlier than previous estimates.
READ MORE: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/02/13/MNQJ1N64G0.DTLPosted 1 year ago # -
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HeySquare said:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203806504577181291838644350.htmlHey Square check your PM for a message from the Fort.
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Speeding to Kalamazoo aboard Amtrak’s high-speed train
MARK BROWN
February 15, 2012 10:22PMWhen the Pioneer Zephyr — better known as the Silver Streak — made its historic run from Denver to Chicago in 1934, the diesel-powered passenger train now on display at the Museum of Science and Industry topped out at 112.5 miles per hour, which at the time was only slightly off the world land speed record. What then are we to make of Wednesday’s official Amtrak kickoff for its first “high speed rail” corridor outside the Northeast — on which trains traveling between Chicago and Kalamazoo, Mich., will now reach top speeds of 110 miles per hour?
There was definitely a Back to the Future feel aboard the special Amtrak train that departed Union Station at 7 a.m. Wednesday carrying news media and dignitaries on a mission to commemorate the return to speeds commonly achieved by America’s rail industry more than a half-century ago. I was among those on board, curious to see if 110 mph is noticeably faster. It is, although not quite so much that you would consider it a revelation.
Still, if more of America’s railways were able to accommodate such speeds, I can promise you more of us would be riding the train, even if there is no comparison to the faster bullet trains of other nations.
READ MORE: http://www.suntimes.com/news/brown/10669050-452/speeding-to-kalamazoo-aboard-amtraks-high-speed-train.htmlOf course...now the truth comes out!
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Buster Bluth
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Why can't we just build the uber-fast ones like they have in Europe? We need trains that are going ~150mph and flying all over the midwest.
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Walker
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Buster Bluth said:
Why can't we just build the uber-fast ones like they have in Europe? We need trains that are going ~150mph and flying all over the midwest.Because the ones in Europe were upgraded from older slower foundations systems and our Governor is unwilling to start with a foundation system that we could eventually build into a high-speed system.
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johnwirtz
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When you start talking about speeds over the 110 MPH, you need dedicated tracks for passenger trains. That is expensive, and along with political will, is probably the main reason it hasn't been done. California is trying. Florida was trying. The northeast corridor has its own tracks, but needs upgrades to go that fast.
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Pablo
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johnwirtz said:
When you start talking about speeds over the 110 MPH, you need dedicated tracks for passenger trains. That is expensive, and along with political will, is probably the main reason it hasn't been done. California is trying. Florida was trying. The northeast corridor has its own tracks, but needs upgrades to go that fast.I thought the NE corridor had to share tracks with freight as well?
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johnwirtz
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I don't think so. The corridor is fully electrified, and I don't know of any freight trains in the US that run on overhead electric. If there are any, they would be operating by Amtrak's choice, since Amtrak owns most of the line, with some segments owned by government entities as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_CorridorPosted 1 year ago # -
Pablo
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johnwirtz said:
I don't think so. The corridor is fully electrified, and I don't know of any freight trains in the US that run on overhead electric. If there are any, they would be operating by Amtrak's choice, since Amtrak owns most of the line, with some segments owned by government entities as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_CorridorThanks John
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